What version of Gentoo was your 1st?
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almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.freelight wrote:I bought into all the Gentoo hype I was hearing. I was reluctant to leave my Slackware, but my curiousity got the best of me. If I remember correctly, this was the peak of Gentoo hype, with people praising it for being fast and customizable and optimizable and overall the computing equivalent of the second coming of Jesus. This was before there was Ubuntu or Fedora, when all the "n00b" distros sucked, and when Debian was suffering a mass exodus due to the fact that their community was excessively elitist and Gentoo was a fresh, clean distro with a very friendly, inclusive, and newbie-friendly community. (A lot has changed since then. Anyone who remembers how people swore that we'd never become like the Debian community, feel free to laugh. Anyone who can see the Debian->Gentoo::Gentoo->Ubuntu analogy, feel free to laugh harder, and note the irony of Ubuntu's roots.)sugar wrote:What was so great about 1.4 that lot of people decided to change to it? Or did it coincide with mandrake sucking or something like that?
A little history lesson at 3 am. I'm half asleep and I'm sure I've made some errors, feel free to correct me.
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2005.0 for me, it was also my very first Linux install ever.
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It was rather an OTW thing and had very little to do with Gentoo as a distro, iirc.sugar wrote:why did everyone leave?cokehabit wrote:almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.
Started with 1.4 and reinstalled with 2004.3 (I had a really boring weekend). I've used that on my desktop since then.
Right now I'm running Gentoo on four computers. I've got a SunBlade 100 coming in today, can't decide if I should try OpenSolaris on it or if I should install Gentoo on that one too.
Right now I'm running Gentoo on four computers. I've got a SunBlade 100 coming in today, can't decide if I should try OpenSolaris on it or if I should install Gentoo on that one too.
Well to begin with Gentoo was a hobbyist's dream, you could tinker with everything and have a laugh with the devs but when it started to get more and more popular Gentoo needed to get more professional and the fun kinda fizzled out, then the people were only into gentoo because it was new left and went to Ubuntu. The forums started going sour as well, once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"sugar wrote:why did everyone leave?cokehabit wrote:almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.
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Yet when hte next "cool" distro comes along the same fate lies in waiting for Ubuntu.cokehabit wrote:Well to begin with Gentoo was a hobbyist's dream, you could tinker with everything and have a laugh with the devs but when it started to get more and more popular Gentoo needed to get more professional and the fun kinda fizzled out, then the people were only into gentoo because it was new left and went to Ubuntu. The forums started going sour as well, once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"sugar wrote:why did everyone leave?cokehabit wrote:almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.
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Maybe, depends how good their userbase becomes. Gentoo's is so vast that there are more people than ever using it and as the new people come in and use fedora, novell or ubuntu Gentoo will always get those looking for that something extraNaib wrote:Yet when hte next "cool" distro comes along the same fate lies in waiting for Ubuntu.cokehabit wrote:Well to begin with Gentoo was a hobbyist's dream, you could tinker with everything and have a laugh with the devs but when it started to get more and more popular Gentoo needed to get more professional and the fun kinda fizzled out, then the people were only into gentoo because it was new left and went to Ubuntu. The forums started going sour as well, once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"sugar wrote:why did everyone leave?cokehabit wrote:almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.
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their userbase is based upon distro-tarts who switch because new distro is available. With them switching they build up the initial userbase that then provides a form of visible feedback to others that want to try it (as well as the more important tech support), that that distro is "popular" and well supported.cokehabit wrote:...
I am not knocking it its good that there is choice (and I am more then happy with Gentoo as a distro and Gentoo as a userbase), what I am saying tho is if the popularity of a distrobution community (say in Gentoo's case the Forum+OTW) is based upon "interesting" regulars and those same ppl seem to be distro-tarts then all distro's will eventually suffer the same fate.
As a tech-base Gentoo is superb and there will be ppl that stay for Gentoo's flexability (something Ubuntu does not have), but as a social community (mainly talking abt OTW here) with those characters moving on the browner-distro's or getting banned due to over-zelious admins the result is a very timid place for discussion of BS
it's good to see you still haunt this forum and it is a shame the others do not. I say bring them all back NOW!!!
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#define Return printf
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#define Return printf
#define Print return
#include <stdio>
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Return("Hello, world!\n");
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Gentoo was my first, and still remains my main distro. I still dabble with other distros for various uses and applications, but always stick with gentoo for my main desktop.
Gentoo was my first, and still remains my main distro. I still dabble with other distros for various uses and applications, but always stick with gentoo for my main desktop.
...it must have been very demanding having to learn how to use Microsoft Office, right up there with other lofty challenges like learning how to zip your fly without getting your dick caught.
my first posting here was simultaneus to my first install... I was posting questions because my hardware was... unusual/difficult.srlinuxx wrote:Yeah, need that. I'm thinking version 1.4 as well. Whatever was stable the fall of 2003 - right before my first post here!bunder wrote:where's the version history list? i think i started using it in v1.4.
so yes, 1.4 as well.
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yeah, the knowlege base is very good, i spent a few hours helping someone try to pass the developer quiz today so even those who do not use gentoo (like me) but are forum regulars still help out.Naib wrote:their userbase is based upon distro-tarts who switch because new distro is available. With them switching they build up the initial userbase that then provides a form of visible feedback to others that want to try it (as well as the more important tech support), that that distro is "popular" and well supported.cokehabit wrote:...
I am not knocking it its good that there is choice (and I am more then happy with Gentoo as a distro and Gentoo as a userbase), what I am saying tho is if the popularity of a distrobution community (say in Gentoo's case the Forum+OTW) is based upon "interesting" regulars and those same ppl seem to be distro-tarts then all distro's will eventually suffer the same fate.
As a tech-base Gentoo is superb and there will be ppl that stay for Gentoo's flexability (something Ubuntu does not have), but as a social community (mainly talking abt OTW here) with those characters moving on the browner-distro's or getting banned due to over-zelious admins the result is a very timid place for discussion of BS
it's good to see you still haunt this forum and it is a shame the others do not. I say bring them all back NOW!!!
Saying that i may spend a couple of days trying to get my postcount to 3000 so i'll do a bit of helping out
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I joined the forums because OTW looked like so much fun, then about a week after I joined everyone got bannedcokehabit wrote:Well to begin with Gentoo was a hobbyist's dream, you could tinker with everything and have a laugh with the devs but when it started to get more and more popular Gentoo needed to get more professional and the fun kinda fizzled out, then the people were only into gentoo because it was new left and went to Ubuntu. The forums started going sour as well, once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"sugar wrote:why did everyone leave?cokehabit wrote:almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.
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Oh ho! Now we know who to blame.../dev/random wrote:I joined the forums because OTW looked like so much fun, then about a week after I joined everyone got bannedcokehabit wrote:Well to begin with Gentoo was a hobbyist's dream, you could tinker with everything and have a laugh with the devs but when it started to get more and more popular Gentoo needed to get more professional and the fun kinda fizzled out, then the people were only into gentoo because it was new left and went to Ubuntu. The forums started going sour as well, once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"sugar wrote:why did everyone leave?cokehabit wrote:almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.
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yabbadabbadont wrote:Oh ho! Now we know who to blame.../dev/random wrote:I joined the forums because OTW looked like so much fun, then about a week after I joined everyone got bannedcokehabit wrote:Well to begin with Gentoo was a hobbyist's dream, you could tinker with everything and have a laugh with the devs but when it started to get more and more popular Gentoo needed to get more professional and the fun kinda fizzled out, then the people were only into gentoo because it was new left and went to Ubuntu. The forums started going sour as well, once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"sugar wrote:why did everyone leave?cokehabit wrote:almost 100% right but the height was probably around 2004.2 and ubuntu was released. At that time Stormy Eyes, Slyde, Ebrostig, lovechild and a few went - then 6 months later almost every regular forum member was gone.
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Unfortunately, I think I'm like that. :( But I'm trying to get better.cokehabit wrote:once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"
I think I started with 2004.3, maybe 2004.2 though. It was in September of 2004, about the time I signed up. I've stuck with it ever since because all other distros just aren't for me. They just don't offer the control Gentoo has, and aren't really as easy as Gentoo either. I've tried Ubuntu, and honestly, I don't like it all that much, but I might just be weird. Anyway, Gentoo for me for a long time, I'm sure.
you seem far more sensible than people like this: clickyEidi wrote:Unfortunately, I think I'm like that.cokehabit wrote:once a few personalities went and klieber and pjp started banning people for things they were previously allowed to do we got the 14yr old "hey look everyone, i know how to use Gentoo, omfgbbq!!!111eleven, i'm so cool". They started coming in their droves asking questions like "where is my vmlinuz? I only have a bzsomething" or "i cant seem to get online, someone said i need drivers, which site can i download them from?"But I'm trying to get better.
I think I started with 2004.3, maybe 2004.2 though. It was in September of 2004, about the time I signed up. I've stuck with it ever since because all other distros just aren't for me. They just don't offer the control Gentoo has, and aren't really as easy as Gentoo either. I've tried Ubuntu, and honestly, I don't like it all that much, but I might just be weird. Anyway, Gentoo for me for a long time, I'm sure.
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I'm pretty sure I was part of the 1.4 crowd. I was also part of the forum exodus (though I wouldn't call myself a 'personality' ). My departure was work-related, though, not because of bannings or other people or anything. I still lurk from time to time and occasionally post (obviously).
I've never managed to settle on a distro, though. I've probably used debian and gentoo the most, and I actually have both installed on machines today.
). My departure was work-related, though, not because of bannings or other people or anything. I still lurk from time to time and occasionally post (obviously).I've never managed to settle on a distro, though. I've probably used debian and gentoo the most, and I actually have both installed on machines today.
wow, jet black! Long time no see!jetblack wrote:I'm pretty sure I was part of the 1.4 crowd. I was also part of the forum exodus (though I wouldn't call myself a 'personality'
I've never managed to settle on a distro, though. I've probably used debian and gentoo the most, and I actually have both installed on machines today.
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