Gnome 2.14

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rush_ad · Post by **rush_ad** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:08 pm

libgnome released. listed on distrowatch.
two days till official release. cant wait till 15th.
any experiences with 2.13 series?

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Q-collective · Post by **Q-collective** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:37 pm

I couldn't care less

rush_ad · Post by **rush_ad** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:52 pm

good for you

paul555 · Post by **paul555** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:37 pm

ebuilds?

rush_ad · Post by **rush_ad** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:40 pm

soon, i hope.

wokick · Post by **wokick** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:42 pm

I am running Gnome 2.13.92 (2.14 beta) for two weeks already.
Feel pretty happy about it.

rush_ad · Post by **rush_ad** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:45 pm

i heard there is major speed difference. true??

paul555 · Post by **paul555** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:56 pm

Here are the new features .I hope there are true

Lokheed · Post by **Lokheed** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:30 pm

I was pretty unimpressed with this release. I thought 2.12 was a nice update from 2.10 in the way of bug fixes and structure, but 2.14 really has nothing that I need or want. The speed improvements when I tried the RC were not really apparent. But GNOME has never been slow or slugish to begin with.

I know they did a lot of work "under the hood" but for overt features, I am somewhat indifferent about them. I also had a few programs break (BMP, GAIM both refused to start, but this could simply be a need to recompile some core packages).

Almost all of GNOME is now released on their servers, we just need to get the ebuilds in Portage.

sternklang · Post by **sternklang** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:48 am

Lokheed wrote:Almost all of GNOME is now released on their servers, we just need to get the ebuilds in Portage.

The hard mask for Gnome 2.14 packages was added yesterday, and the ebuilds have just started to trickle in. gnome-terminal, vte, bug-buddy and gconf-editor have already hit.

I've been running 2.13.x from Break My Gentoo since late December. The startup time and speed increases are definitely noticable and in some cases dramatic -- gnome-terminal is faster than xterm now. Beagle integration into Nautilus search plus saved search folders is very cool. And the addition of Deskbar applet is great, I use it constantly. Plus lots of small fixes and cleaner/more logical dialogs throughout.

Lokheed · Post by **Lokheed** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:03 am

sternklang wrote:
Lokheed wrote:Almost all of GNOME is now released on their servers, we just need to get the ebuilds in Portage.
The hard mask for Gnome 2.14 packages was added yesterday, and the ebuilds have just started to trickle in. gnome-terminal, vte, bug-buddy and gconf-editor have already hit.

I've been running 2.13.x from Break My Gentoo since late December. The startup time and speed increases are definitely noticable and in some cases dramatic -- gnome-terminal is faster than xterm now. Beagle integration into Nautilus search plus saved search folders is very cool. And the addition of Deskbar applet is great, I use it constantly. Plus lots of small fixes and cleaner/more logical dialogs throughout.

Yeah, I know, I went here a long time ago: http://www.gnome.org/%7Edavyd/gnome-2-14/ For me, I could care less about any new feature except the dumping of pmount for the "in house" gnome-mount which should send calls from hal much more efficiently. I am really happy to dump pmount, but the search feature is useless to me. Bug fixes and clean ups are always nice though

enzobelmont · Post by **enzobelmont** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:29 am

does anybody knows if compositing is working in metacity???

sorry my english...

sternklang · Post by **sternklang** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:39 am

enzobelmont wrote:does anybody knows if compositing is working in metacity???

I believe it needs AIGLX to work. I don't know if anyone has tried to get that running on Gentoo yet -- mostly people have been concentrating on XGL/Compiz.

enzobelmont · Post by **enzobelmont** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:03 am

sternklang wrote:
enzobelmont wrote:does anybody knows if compositing is working in metacity???
I believe it needs AIGLX to work. I don't know if anyone has tried to get that running on Gentoo yet -- mostly people have been concentrating on XGL/Compiz.

er... yeah! sorry i forget it!, redhat people should be working hard to get AIGLX working right now!.
there was recently a flame war (XGL+Compiz vs AIGLX+Metacity) started by redhat but the AIGLX development is running slowly. some weeks ago Novel silently released XGL+Compiz & i've runnnig it since then flawlessly, but RH people cant delivery AIXGL until now. Me as joe user (average) had wished be able to use AIXGL+Metacity for this release of Gnome.

i didn't want to create a discussion, this is just my point of view about stuff that matters (TM)

sorry my english...

be well

recall · Post by **recall** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:30 am

Hooray, GNOME 2.14 officially released!
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:34 am

recall wrote:Hooray, GNOME 2.14 officially released!
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/

Shall we make book on when it'll hit ~x86?

I jest -- devs do a good job. It's just a beast to work out all the source-level bugs.

enzobelmont · Post by **enzobelmont** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:49 am

how long will take to be in portage stable????

sorry my english...

sternklang · Post by **sternklang** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:56 am

enzobelmont wrote:how long will take to be in portage stable????

sorry my english...

Judging by past experience, just about when 2.16 is released. That's just the way it goes with something as complex as Gnome (or KDE for that matter).

And your english is fine.

joem · Post by **joem** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:04 am

sternklang wrote:
enzobelmont wrote:how long will take to be in portage stable????

sorry my english...
Judging by past experience, just about when 2.16 is released. That's just the way it goes with something as complex as Gnome (or KDE for that matter).

And your english is fine.

No. 2.14.0 will be in ~arch by the end of the week and 2.14.1 will go into the stable branch after being tested in ~arch for the proper amount of time. There is also no past experience that says a gnome release will go into stable just as the next release is coming out. The last release(2.12) was the longest to stay in ~arch because of all the problems with automounting and udev, and it was still marked stable about 2 months before 2.14 was released.

rush_ad · Post by **rush_ad** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:38 am

gnome 2.12.3 is still ~arch

i think i will upgrade to 2.12.3 before i try 2.14

log · Post by **log** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:24 am

I have been using 2.12.X since it was in ~x86 and its worked fine for me...

2.14 + xgl + compiz is going to rock...I can now say that the linux desktop is "Good". It always had little nagging things but I think it is finally there.

YAY

omp · Post by **omp** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:56 am

log wrote:2.14 + xgl + compiz is going to rock...I can now say that the linux desktop is "Good". It always had little nagging things but I think it is finally there.

I used to use that combination (but with 2.12.3) until I found a better one:

xgl + compiz + xfdesktop

The only reason for running xfdesktop (from xfce4) is because I can get a right-click menu with a list of installed apps. (No need for a menu in a panel.) As for a panel, I don't need one anymore since the scale plugin for Compiz rocks!

VValdo · Post by **VValdo** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:57 am

I read somewhere about an evdev conflict with 2.14-- any confirmation/fixes?

W

lex82 · Post by **lex82** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:00 am

I'm waiting for it (2.14)...

I used GNOME 2.10 and then 2.12.2 'till now with a 64 bit system. I'm falling back to a 32 bit system for I need win32codecs and flash plugin. The installation is over but I'll wait... are you sure that 2.14 will be set as testing in this week?

sternklang · Post by **sternklang** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:58 pm

VValdo wrote:I read somewhere about an evdev conflict with 2.14-- any confirmation/fixes?

See this upstream bug report. Apparently there's a patch but it doesn't work for everybody. I don't know if the Gentoo devs are going to include the patch, though it seems like the kind of proactive thing they would do.