XGL (part 2)

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mariux2 · Post by **mariux2** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:02 pm

Here nothing network related works in kde-apps when in Xgl, really weird behavior.

Drag0n · Post by **Drag0n** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:17 pm

With the risk of this having been asked before (didn't read the whole thread):

The wobbly plugin is quite slow for me, so it seems. Moving works great, it's fast as long as it doesn't "wobble out". When I let go of the window, it needs sometimes more than two seconds per frame, needing close to ten seconds to stop wobbling completely. Anybody else experienced that?

Cheers,
Drag0n

RockMan · Post by **RockMan** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:27 pm

Me.
It seems also that moving the mouse over the window (or better, selecting text if it is possible) accelerates a bit the "wobble out"
Everything else is quite fast, i've a Athlon 3200+ (using 32bit) , nvidia 6600 AGP and 1GB ram

BlackBelt · Post by **BlackBelt** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:59 pm

hi guys. I'm running xgl with amd64 and nvidia.

Fonts in applications are more larger of when I don't use xgl. I've lot problem with keybord.

is It my impression?

mikkoloo · Post by **mikkoloo** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:51 pm

change the DPI setting with --dpi.
for the keyboard, the wiki takes up the problem with the layouts.

Eighen Indemnis · Post by **Eighen Indemnis** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:54 pm

Belgabor wrote:
acid2 wrote:
Eighen Indemnis wrote:I've searched through the thread, so I'm sorry if I missed it, but has anyone had any luck with making XGl work on accounts that are non-root? Is there a permissions issue that needs to be fixed, or is it something else?
Im running this as my normal user, what troubles are you having. At a guess you need this in your xorg.conf file:
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Section DRI
    Mode 0666
End Section
I don't have this and I still have no problems running it as a normal user. I only got problems with an earlier version when I started an X server as root first, some file or whatever would be left on /tmp that prevented xgl from starting afterwards (maybe works now, haven't checked since).
What does xgl say when you (Indemnis) start it as non-root? Maybe you have some other permissions problem... Can you start normal X as non-root?

I just needed a restart and I was all good to go. It works as non-root. The only issue I'm having now is that games (like Battle of Wesnoth) are reacting strangely to it - if I have any color besides black in the window behind the game ( and that includes icons on the desktop ), they bleed through to the game.

steve_d555 · Post by **steve_d555** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:57 pm

Eighen Indemnis wrote:
Belgabor wrote:
acid2 wrote:
Eighen Indemnis wrote:I've searched through the thread, so I'm sorry if I missed it, but has anyone had any luck with making XGl work on accounts that are non-root? Is there a permissions issue that needs to be fixed, or is it something else?
Im running this as my normal user, what troubles are you having. At a guess you need this in your xorg.conf file:
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Section DRI
    Mode 0666
End Section
I don't have this and I still have no problems running it as a normal user. I only got problems with an earlier version when I started an X server as root first, some file or whatever would be left on /tmp that prevented xgl from starting afterwards (maybe works now, haven't checked since).
What does xgl say when you (Indemnis) start it as non-root? Maybe you have some other permissions problem... Can you start normal X as non-root?
I just needed a restart and I was all good to go. It works as non-root. The only issue I'm having now is that games (like Battle of Wesnoth) are reacting strangely to it - if I have any color besides black in the window behind the game ( and that includes icons on the desktop ), they bleed through to the game.

I've actually seen this behavior too. Things like Quake3 work fine, but a game I am developing bleeds through and seems transparent while working fine in regular X.

didumos · Post by **didumos** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:25 pm

I don't play many games but I also saw this behaviour with OpenTTD when I was playing with XGL. I see that Battle of Wesnoth uses the SDL libraries too so there may be some common problem with the way XGL works with SDL. I don't suppose the game you are developing (steve_d555) uses SDL too?

However, i'm pretty sure the Quake 3 engine uses OpenGL, so that might explain why you don't get any bleeding there.

gregday · Post by **gregday** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:43 pm

Not using Gentoo here (Slackware, dont flame me!), but this forum and the wiki have been an invaluable resource for me.

I've compiled Xgl from the xgl-0-0-1 branch and I'm using Mesa CVS. I can get Xgl to run, but I'm getting that darned "compiz: Support for non power of two textures missing" error when running Compiz. I've got Xgl using the NVIDIA proprietary drivers, 1.0.8178, and Compiz running with LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointed toward Mesa's libGL.

My card is a GF4 FX5700.

Has anyone found any other tips for this problem?

silverpig · Post by **silverpig** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:50 pm

Just posting a big thanks to everyone who provided solutions in this thread and on the boards. I had a few problems with my install, but the solutions posted here worked wonders

Got my laptop migrated over to Xgl, now it's time to do my desktop

enzobelmont · Post by **enzobelmont** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:23 am

Drag0n wrote:With the risk of this having been asked before (didn't read the whole thread):

The wobbly plugin is quite slow for me, so it seems. Moving works great, it's fast as long as it doesn't "wobble out". When I let go of the window, it needs sometimes more than two seconds per frame, needing close to ten seconds to stop wobbling completely. Anybody else experienced that?

Cheers,
Drag0n

there is a patch to hack this behavior
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/x ... 13042.html

but i advice to wait a better solution in CVS

sorry my english...

mikkoloo · Post by **mikkoloo** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:35 am

I'm very sure quake3 is using openGL, because the alternative is DirectX and its from microsoft, 'nuf said

ikshaar · Post by **ikshaar** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:03 am

Wooo... it works.

Just to report it working on amd64. Very impressed - even if experimental code.

Only problem, I lost hardware acceleration for games or even glxgears if I run it... odd. Feel very smooth so I think it's working ok. I can spin the cube with video running, no problem. But when i I launch nvidia-settings, or glxgears or glxinfo... they all behaved as if there was no hardware acceleration... actually nvidia-settings show nothing, glxinfo report no hardware acceleration and glxgears very slow 900fps but window is black. I start compiz with :

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LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/ compiz ...

if I used nvidia library it failed on

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compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing

which I think is an extension missing from nvidia driver for the moment.

Keep the good work - that is an amazing evolution.

Hardware AMD64 3500+ with GeForce6800GT

BosHaus · Post by **BosHaus** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:34 am

I've got XGL up and running on xfce, but I had a couple of issues.

First: my graphical pager has shrunk.. it still has all 4 screens but in the size of one. To see what I mean look at http://alexbos.net:8080/pager-small.jpg . I can't figure out how to get it to look right again.

Second: When I log out of xfce, it always locks up and I have to ctrl-alt-backspace. The processes still going are:

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boshaus  14089  1.5  7.4  78196 38048 tty1     SL   02:00   0:28 Xgl :1 -ac -accel xv:fbo -accel glx:pbuffer
root     14091  0.2  2.2  45900 11272 tty7     SLs+ 02:00   0:04 /usr/bin/Xorg -auth /tmp/.Xgl-auth-xLRxXi -nolisten tcp -dpms -v -s 0 :93 -terminate
boshaus  14098  0.0  2.2 125452 11680 ?        Ss   02:00   0:00 xfce-mcs-manager
boshaus  14101  0.0  0.2   4604  1024 tty1     S    02:00   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/compizrc
boshaus  14102  0.0  0.7  58660  4056 tty1     S    02:00   0:00 compiz --replace switcher decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place opa
boshaus  14103  0.0  1.6  64448  8276 tty1     S    02:00   0:00 gnome-window-decorator

If you know howo to fix either of these I'd really appreciate it!

sylvanus · Post by **sylvanus** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:57 am

there seems to be something wrong with the patched cairo. When I try to run vmware, I get:

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/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/bin/vmware: /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/bin/vmware: /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/bin/vmware: /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)

But, when I run it using the cairo ver in portage, it works fine

recall · Post by **recall** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:38 am

BosHaus wrote:I've got XGL up and running on xfce, but I had a couple of issues.

First: my graphical pager has shrunk.. it still has all 4 screens but in the size of one. To see what I mean look at http://alexbos.net:8080/pager-small.jpg . I can't figure out how to get it to look right again.

Same problem here, but i use gnome.
And another problem, some programs opens without decorations, for example vlc, or all wine aplications.

UPD: I updated gnome and compiz, now i have vlc with decorations and normal workspace switcher.

x.para · Post by **x.para** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:59 pm

Hi, I am trying to compile whole Xgl again using svn ver. 14

during x11-base/xgl-20060216 I have problem with applying the patch xgl-slang-library-noise.diff

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 * Applying r200-copy-pixels-1.patch ...                                         [ ok ]
 * Applying xgl-slang-library-noise.diff ...

 * Failed Patch: xgl-slang-library-noise.diff !
 *  ( /usr/local/portage/xgl/x11-base/xgl/files/xgl-slang-library-noise.diff )
 *
 * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
 *
 *   /var/tmp/portage/xgl-20060216/temp/xgl-slang-library-noise.diff-12179.out


!!! ERROR: x11-base/xgl-20060216 failed.
!!! Function epatch, Line 350, Exitcode 0
!!! Failed Patch: xgl-slang-library-noise.diff!

Would someone know what could be the problem?

Thanks

UPDATE: Again to remove i830 record from

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/usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/Mesa/src/mesa/drivers/dri/i915/intel_ioctl.c

helped.

RockMan · Post by **RockMan** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:10 pm

enzobelmont wrote:
Drag0n wrote:With the risk of this having been asked before (didn't read the whole thread):

The wobbly plugin is quite slow for me, so it seems. Moving works great, it's fast as long as it doesn't "wobble out". When I let go of the window, it needs sometimes more than two seconds per frame, needing close to ten seconds to stop wobbling completely. Anybody else experienced that?

Cheers,
Drag0n
there is a patch to hack this behavior
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/x ... 13042.html

but i advice to wait a better solution in CVS

sorry my english...

CVS Seem fixed, right now
At least here it's correctly working.

vdemeester · Post by **vdemeester** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:22 pm

hi

when emerge xgl there's a little problem..
All files aren't in the svn i think !

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!!! Files listed in the manifest do not exist!
files/xgl-slang-library-noise.diff

Am I alone ?

EDIT : I think the 'digest' is not updated (so just with ebuild x11-base/xgl/xgl-20060216.ebuild digest and it seems to work)

wzzrd · Post by **wzzrd** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:27 pm

Removing the epatch line for that patch doesn't break the build. Will post results of running made binaries later.

enzobelmont · Post by **enzobelmont** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:29 pm

RockMan wrote:
enzobelmont wrote:
Drag0n wrote:With the risk of this having been asked before (didn't read the whole thread):

The wobbly plugin is quite slow for me, so it seems. Moving works great, it's fast as long as it doesn't "wobble out". When I let go of the window, it needs sometimes more than two seconds per frame, needing close to ten seconds to stop wobbling completely. Anybody else experienced that?

Cheers,
Drag0n
there is a patch to hack this behavior
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/x ... 13042.html

but i advice to wait a better solution in CVS

sorry my english...
CVS Seem fixed, right now
At least here it's correctly working.

thanks i'll try it in a couple of hours, by the way wich card do you have???

sorry my english...

wzzrd · Post by **wzzrd** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:53 pm

wzzrd wrote:Removing the epatch line for that patch doesn't break the build. Will post results of running made binaries later.

Alas, it does break it. Rebuilding with digest fix mentioned above. Will take a while due to upgrading of glibc to 2.3.6-r3.

sn4ip3r · Post by **sn4ip3r** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:31 pm

I'm not sure if other terminals already support it (at least I can't find the option in gnome terminal) but the newest versions of rxvt-unicode support alpha channel which means that it is possible to get real transparent background (or even foreground) colors. I don't know if the 7.1 version (newest in portage) supports it, but it is sufficient to just bump the portage ebuild to 7.6 to get the newest version.

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# urxvt -depth 32 -bg rgba:0000/0000/0000/9999

RockMan · Post by **RockMan** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:06 pm

enzobelmont wrote: thanks i'll try it in a couple of hours, by the way wich card do you have???

NVidia Geforce 6600 AGP

enzobelmont wrote: sorry my english...

Actually mine isn't so much better...

Theophile · Post by **Theophile** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:17 pm

What's the currect status of GeForce4 MX cards? I have one of these and no matter what I do, I am getting a "no visual format found" error.

Is this because of my card?

XGL (part 2)

"compiz: Support for non power of two textures missing&

xgl and xfce problems

Re: xgl and xfce problems

Compiling x11-base/xgl-20060216