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glxgears slow [nvidia closed source]

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Post by LLoydBates » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:41 am

Hi there,
I have a problem with my nvidia driver, glxgears is _JUST_ plain slow,
if i run it i get ~460FPS.
My videocard is a GeForce 4MX with 64MB VideoRAM.

I recently switch to Xorg6.8.1, but the result was the same in Xfree4.3
I know this card can do more because i had over 2500fps in glxgears and then it just droped and i don't know why.

and yes, i know that glxgears is not a benchmark, but as i said ... 460FPS are poor and there should be more.

to make a long story short i provide info of my system below.

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$ cat /proc/pci | grep -i nvidia
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev 164).

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$ glxinfo | grep render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce4 MX 4000/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!

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$ qpkg -i -I nvidia
media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.5336-r2 *
        XFree86 GLX libraries for the NVIDIA's X driver [ http://www.nvidia.com/ ]
media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.5336-r4 *
        Linux kernel module for the NVIDIA's X driver [ http://www.nvidia.com/ ]
Note: I had the 1.0.6111 installed but the frames were almost the same, (+/- 10fps)

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$ opengl-update --get-implementation
nvidia

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$ ls -l /usr/lib/libGL*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root     48 24. Okt 08:10 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so -> /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.5336*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root     48 24. Okt 08:10 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 -> /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.5336*
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    739 24. Okt 08:10 /usr/lib/libGL.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root     44 24. Okt 08:10 /usr/lib/libGL.so -> /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1.0.5336*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root     44 24. Okt 08:10 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1.0.5336*
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 681130 23. Okt 09:50 /usr/lib/libGLU.a
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    769 23. Okt 09:50 /usr/lib/libGLU.la
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     13 23. Okt 09:50 /usr/lib/libGLU.so -> libGLU.so.1.3*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     13 23. Okt 09:50 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 -> libGLU.so.1.3*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 581686 23. Okt 09:50 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3*

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$ emerge info
Portage 2.0.51-r2 (default-linux/x86/2004.2, gcc-3.3.4, glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1, 2.6.8-gentoo-r10 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.8-gentoo-r10 i686 AMD Duron
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r5
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.8-r1
Headers:  sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1
Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r5
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER=""
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs candy ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms userpriv"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo http://ftp.gentoo.skynet.be/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="3dnow 3dnowex X alsa avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr chroot crypt cups divx4linux dvd dvdr encode fam flac foomatic foomaticdb freetype gcj gdbm gif gimpprint gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal imagemagick imlib ipv6 java javascript joystick jpeg libg++ libwww mad matroska mikmod mmx mmx2 motif mpeg ncurses nls nptl offensive oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib pic png ppds python quicktime readline samba sdl slang spell sqlite sse ssl tcpd theora tiff truetype usb x86 xface xml2 xmms xprint xv xvid zlib"

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Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "X.org Configured"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
        ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "extmod"
        SubSection  "extmod"
            Option  "omit xfree86-dga"
        EndSubSection
        #Load  "dri"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xtrap"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "type1"
        Load  "freetype"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"
        Option      "XkbRules" "xorg"
        Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option      "XkbLayout" "de"
        Option      "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/mouse"
        Option      "Buttons" "5"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        #DisplaySize      320   240     # mm
        Identifier      "Monitor0"
        VendorName      "SAM"
        ModelName       "S/M 755DF"
        Option          "DPMS"
        HorizSync       30.0-85.0
        VertRefresh     50.0-160.0
        ModeLine        "640x480" 74.58 640 672 832 896 480 482 494 520 #160Hz
        ModeLine        "800x600" 94.61 800 840 1040 1120 600 602 614 640 #132Hz
        ModeLine        "1024x768" 119.45 1024 1072 1312 1408 768 770 782 808 #105Hz
        ModeLine        "1152x864" 130.52 1152 1200 1440 1536 864 866 878 904 #94Hz
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "DigitalVibrance"           # <i>
        #Option     "NoFlip"                    # [<bool>]
        #Option     "Dac8Bit"                   # [<bool>]
        Option     "NoLogo" "True"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "UBB"                       # [<bool>]
        #Option     "Stereo"                    # <i>
        #Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "HWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "VideoKey"                  # <i>
        Option     "NvAGP" "1"                  # <i>
        #Option     "IgnoreEDID"                # [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoDDC"                     # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ConnectedMonitor"          # <str>
        #Option     "ConnectedMonitors"         # <str>
        #Option     "TVStandard"                # <str>
        #Option     "TVOutFormat"               # <str>
        #Option     "RenderAccel" "True"        # [<bool>]
        #Option     "CursorShadow"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "CursorShadowAlpha"         # <i>
        #Option     "CursorShadowXOffset"       # <i>
        #Option     "CursorShadowYOffset"       # <i>
        #Option     "UseEdidFreqs"              # [<bool>]
        #Option     "FlatPanelProperties"       # <str>
        #Option     "TwinView"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "TwinViewOrientation"       # <str>
        #Option     "SecondMonitorHorizSync"    # <str>
        #Option     "SecondMonitorVertRefresh"  # <str>
        #Option     "MetaModes"                 # <str>
        #Option     "UseInt10Module"            # [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo"    # [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoRenderExtension"         # [<bool>]
        #Option     "Overlay"                   # [<bool>]
        #Option     "CIOverlay"                 # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ForceEmulatedOverlay"      # [<bool>]
        #Option     "TransparentIndex"          # <i>
        #Option     "OverlayDefaultVisual"      # [<bool>]
        #Option     "NvEmulate"                 # <i>
        #Option     "NoBandWidthTest"           # [<bool>]
        #Option     "CustomEDID-CRT-0"          # <str>
        #Option     "CustomEDID-CRT-1"          # <str>
        #Option     "CustomEDID-DFP-0"          # <str>
        #Option     "CustomEDID-DFP-1"          # <str>
        #Option     "CustomEDID-TV-0"           # <str>
        #Option     "CustomEDID-TV-1"           # <str>
        #Option     "TVOverScan"                # <f>
        #Option     "IgnoreDisplayDevices"      # <str>
        #Option     "MultisampleCompatibility"  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "RegistryDwords"            # <str>
        #Option     "NoPowerConnectorCheck"     # [<bool>]
        #Option     "AllowDFPStereo"            # [<bool>]
        #Option     "XvMCUsesTextures"          # [<bool>]
        #Option     "HorizSync"                 # <str>
        #Option     "VertRefresh"               # <str>
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
        BoardName   "NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth    24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     1
                Modes   "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     4
                Modes   "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     8
                Modes   "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     15
                Modes   "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
                Modes   "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
                Modes   "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

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$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card                                      
Fast Writes:     Supported
SBA:             Supported
AGP Rates:       4x 2x 1x 
Registers:       0x1f000217:0x1f000304

$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status:          Enabled
Driver:          NVIDIA
AGP Rate:        4x
Fast Writes:     Enabled
SBA:             Enabled

$ cat /etc/modules.d/nvidia 
# Nvidia drivers support
alias char-major-195 nvidia
alias /dev/nvidiactl char-major-195
options nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1
now i'm completly helpless.
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Post by gatiba » Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:34 am

Have you tried with DefaultDepth 16 ?
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Post by redshift » Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:29 pm

I'm not sure I can help with your problem, but you got me curious about looking into the same values. I found some very odd results:

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glxinfo | grep render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5500/PCI/SSE/3DNOW!

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opengl-update --get-implementation
nvidia

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cat /etc/modules.d/nvidia
# Nvidia drivers support
alias char-major-195 nvidia
alias /dev/nvidiactl char-major-19

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cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card 
Fast Writes:     Supported
SBA:             Supported
AGP Rates:       8x 4x 
Registers:       0x1f000e1b:0x00000000
but then this:

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cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status 
Status:          Disabled

AGP initialization failed, please check the ouput  
of the 'dmesg' command and/or your system log file 
for additional information on this problem.
dmesg shows no problems.

I never have any troubles with speed, and things like UT2004 run just fine, but glxgears only gives ~100 fps.
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Post by LLoydBates » Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:09 pm

gatiba wrote:Have you tried with DefaultDepth 16 ?
I have tried 16bit and it almost doubles my fps to ~800
but because of my gtk theme and my wallpaper it looks kinda ugly (the color gradient is visible) and i generally prefer 24, so this is not an option.

and redshift,

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cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
only works if you have disabled agpgart in kernel and use the nvidia implementation instead. don't know what it's about, if it's better or not ... but i get almost the same frames with the nvidia one and the kernel agpgart.
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Post by linuxkrn » Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:23 pm

LLoydBates wrote:I have tried 16bit and it almost doubles my fps to ~800
but because of my gtk theme and my wallpaper it looks kinda ugly (the color gradient is visible) and i generally prefer 24, so this is not an option.
Well, it should give you a huge increase as you're not moving as much data around.
LLoydBates wrote:and redshift,

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cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
only works if you have disabled agpgart in kernel and use the nvidia implementation instead. don't know what it's about, if it's better or not ... but i get almost the same frames with the nvidia one and the kernel agpgart.
You can enable it in your xorg.conf file with the NvAGP "x" where x 1-3. Read the docs for more information on that. I assume you checked and your chipset was supported?

I hate to brake it to you but the MX cards are very slow. Infact a GeForce 3 Ti 300/500 will blow that card away. The MX were cheap stripped down versions, and they really were subsets of a Geforce 3 chipset, not 4 like it says. Still if you were getting more before something "changed."

You also didn't provide any information as to what resolution you're running in, what CPU speed. glxgears is NOT a benchmarking app. It is very CPU dependant as well so even if the card was ok you're system could be slowing it down else where. Did you close everything else down? Monitor your top/uptime stats when you run it for a while. Is CPU getting 100%?

Does dmesg or /var/log/Xorg.0.log report anything?

Lastly, report what this says

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$ ldd `which glxgears` 
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$ ls -l `ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/glxgears |grep libGL.so | cut -f 3 -d ' '` 
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Post by LLoydBates » Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:22 pm

I'm running 1152x864, Chipset is supported (VIA KT266A), CPU is a Duron 1600, /var/log/Xorg.0.log does not report any errors or warnings

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$ ldd `which glxgears` 
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x40026000)
        libXp.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x4008e000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40096000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400a6000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40176000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40187000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401aa000)
        libGLcore.so.1 => /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGLcore.so.1 (0x402ba000)
        libnvidia-tls.so.1 => /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1 (0x40992000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40994000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)

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$ ls -l `ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/glxgears |grep libGL.so | cut -f 3 -d ' '`
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 17 24. Okt 11:31 /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.0.6111*
i gues i just have to accept it ... oh well, i was thinking about rebuilding my system when 2004.3 comes out. it's kinda messed up, i lost track of apps that were installed and i'm to lazy to just check and clean them. :P
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Post by redshift » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:43 pm

LLoydBates wrote:and redshift,

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cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
only works if you have disabled agpgart in kernel and use the nvidia implementation instead. don't know what it's about, if it's better or not ... but i get almost the same frames with the nvidia one and the kernel agpgart.
I have agpgart disabled and am using the nvidia implentation, i.e. NvAGP=1. The chipset is supported, it's a 5500.
Lastly, report what this says
I know this wasn't for me, but:

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ldd `which glxgears`
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x4511a000)
        libXp.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x450d2000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x44f27000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x44e58000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x44fb3000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x44e33000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x44d0e000)
        libGLcore.so.1 => /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGLcore.so.1 (0x445e2000)
        libnvidia-tls.so.1 => /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1 (0x445de000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x44e2d000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x445c4000)

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ls -l `ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/glxgears |grep libGL.so | cut -f 3 -d ' '`
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 17 Oct  7 21:38 /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.0.6111*
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Post by drakonite » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:46 pm

linuxkrn wrote: I hate to brake it to you but the MX cards are very slow. Infact a GeForce 3 Ti 300/500 will blow that card away. The MX were cheap stripped down versions, and they really were subsets of a Geforce 3 chipset, not 4 like it says. Still if you were getting more before something "changed."
NO! Please stop spreading this as the answer to this problem... After looking around it seems there are numerous people, including me, who have a major issue with 3d acceleration and nvidia with the current drivers, xorg, 2.6 kernel, or whatever else is involved. Yes, the mx cards are pretty crappy and are fairly slow, but they are NOT this slow.
I can confirm there is a problem somewhere because I went from having high frame rates and low cpu usage in the games I'd play, and in glxgears, to having 100% cpu usage and very low framerates. I do not know exactly when the change was, as I had stopped playing games sometime before the xorg switch, and it wasn't until a couple months ago I loaded up a 3d app and realized there was a major problem.
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