FASTEST web browser ?

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digitalsy · Post by **digitalsy** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:34 am

Just wondering what the fastest web browser for gentoo is. I notice too often that linux browser take too long to load, even on my high end system with 768mb ddr ram.

What do you guys use?
What are the loading times compared to others?

Personally i've only tried mozilla and phoenix so far. Phoenix, being the trimmed down mozilla that it is, was faster to load, but still not as fast as i'd like it to be.

Maybe there are system tweaks for this, maybe it's the actual browser, i'd be interested what you guys have to say....i'm running fluxbox and well i want to run idesk but i can't get it to load at startup, and i don't wanna run it manually everytime.

-digi

abysed · Post by **abysed** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:39 am

lynx

Firebird (Phoenix) is the fastest browser I've used, next to Konquerer and Mozilla..

arashb · Post by **arashb** » Sat May 03, 2003 5:14 am

If you are a KDE user, konq. is the best. If not, why you don't try it?!:D

noff · Post by **noff** » Sat May 03, 2003 5:15 am

vax wrote:lynx

Firebird (Phoenix) is the fastest browser I've used, next to Konquerer and Mozilla..

links is fast too:)

I second firebird but make sure to grad it from cvs.

squiddy · Post by **squiddy** » Sat May 03, 2003 7:35 am

The advertisement in the upper-right of my web browser (Opera) says that Opera is the fastest browser... on EARTH!

For what it's worth, I really like it. I find it to be really fast, except on pages with tons of images (i.e. deviantart.com)...

blubber · Post by **blubber** » Sat May 03, 2003 7:45 am

Firebird works fine for me

kkj · Post by **kkj** » Sat May 03, 2003 8:07 am

try dillo imho its the fastest....

MasonMouse · Post by **MasonMouse** » Sat May 03, 2003 8:47 am

I've been trying out the masked Gnome browser, Epiphany, and have noticed it's a little faster than Phoenix but at the cost of a few features and conviniences. But that's usually the case.

maor · Post by **maor** » Sat May 03, 2003 8:54 am

for me konqueror is now the fatest browser that i used but I'm using kde-cvs expect to allot speed improvements in kde-3.2

but other from that i think that firebird do the trick it's quite fast.

thomasjb · Post by **thomasjb** » Sat May 03, 2003 9:33 am

maor,
do you have any stability issues with running kde-cvs? sorry, it's a bit of topic.

fca · Post by **fca** » Sat May 03, 2003 9:38 am

I'm running als KDE-CVS, and I have almost no stability issues, and Konqueror puts Firebird to a shame. Haven't tried Opera though.

NePhie · Post by **NePhie** » Sat May 03, 2003 10:06 am

i'd recon that konqueror puts Firebird to a shame on a kde because kde will most likely prelink it or something ? (taking out of the blue here, i just think it will since what i know of konqueror is that is does NOT load faster than phoenix / Firebird on a fluxbox)

dev · Post by **dev** » Sat May 03, 2003 11:09 am

Type "kdeinit" in a console while in flux/any other wm. You'll notice konq loading a great deal faster.

M104 · Post by **M104** » Sat May 03, 2003 11:29 am

digitalsy, don't let the KDE people talk you into giving up your memory!

From one fluxboxer to another, give Galeon a try. Don't settle for Phoenix or Firebird or Opera being good enough. Get the real deal for browsing with Galeon. I know I sound like a commercial or a brochure, but Galeon is part of the reason I stopped using Windows. The browser is much more powerful and configurable than any other I have used (every one mentioned so far) and yet it loads very quickly and is lean and simple in design. Most pages will take more time to load from the web than Galeon takes to start itself. No other browser does tabs like Galeon, either. If you use tabs, virtual desktops, and multiple browser windows, there is no need to load Galeon more than once per X session.

As for idesk, you need to put that in your .xinitrc file before fluxbox like this:

(sleep 3 && idesk) &

Cheers!

kozmic · Post by **kozmic** » Sat May 03, 2003 12:29 pm

I find Opera the fastest browser, best looking and with a ton of neat features. But a default install of Opera are not that good, you need to configure it right, and you'll never change your browser

Opera 7.xx for linux are abit unstable at the moment though, but when it get's final it will rock the world

Galeon are a really good browser too though.

thomasjb · Post by **thomasjb** » Sat May 03, 2003 12:38 pm

what would "configure it right" be? could you elaborate?

maor · Post by **maor** » Sat May 03, 2003 1:47 pm

thomasjb wrote:maor,
do you have any stability issues with running kde-cvs? sorry, it's a bit of topic.

no stability issues for me everything work fine much more improvements than i expected it to be and now i can't go back stick with cvs version.

shm · Post by **shm** » Sat May 03, 2003 3:41 pm

Yeah.. kde-cvs is pretty rock stable for me. Dan Armack maintains excellent kde-cvs ebuilds at http://cvs.gentoo.org/~danarmak/kde-cvs.html. Konqueror is quite a bit faster in cvs than in 3.1.. with more and more safari changes rolling in, it should continue to be that way

Anyway, I think based on startup time, I'd have to rate browsers (that support graphics) I've tried like this: (I have not tried Epiphany yet)

from fastest to slowest:

1. glinks (graphical version of links)
2. dillo
3. konqueror (kdeinit'd in KDE)
4. firebird/phoenix
5. opera
6. galeon
7. netscape-4.7
8. konqueror (non-KDE init'd)
9. Mozilla

Konqueror, Galeon, mozilla, and firebird all support pre-loading into memory. Of these, I beleive only konqueror actually does it by default. It's hard to tell the difference in my computer though, honestly, all of the above browsers load within 5 seconds.. mozilla at the end of that scale

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digitalsy · Post by **digitalsy** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:13 pm

Wow, i didn't expect so many people to respond, heh. I guess there are alot of differences when it comes to browser tastes...I guess I'm just gonna have to experiment and find what's fastest for my system.

I will take your advice though M104 and try out galeon (although it requires mozilla to be installed...which is why i got phoenix, so my system doesn't get bloated like that. But galeon and opera seem like something good to give a go....

/me stays away from kde (no offense to kde lovers, but i prefer my system running at peak performance without the extra overhead of kde)

-digi

Post by **pjp** » Sat May 03, 2003 5:12 pm

Moved from Desktop Environments.

ixion · Post by **ixion** » Sat May 03, 2003 5:54 pm

after a recent format, I decided to check out the cvs-phoenix (firebird). Being a veteran phoenix user, I didn't expect much difference. Boy, was I wrong! This firebird browser is great!! The icons and fonts look SO much better than the old version of phoenix. And this thing is QUICK!:D

aardvark · Post by **aardvark** » Sat May 03, 2003 7:51 pm

M104 wrote:digitalsy, don't let the KDE people talk you into giving up your memory!

Especially since memory is still so UNBELIEVABLY expensive

Konqueror is beside (the bannered non-free) opera the best choice for me on my lower end system. Konqueror still has some trouble with certain sites though. It loads a la MSIE here though.

magnet · Post by **magnet** » Sat May 03, 2003 8:08 pm

I use links , ( aka glinks ) it's quite fast and can works with svgalib in console.this save up some ressources.
I can t understand why ppl keep on using lynx , I mean it's a good text browser, but links ( not elinks ) seems really better to me.any lynx here ?

gsfgf · Post by **gsfgf** » Sat May 03, 2003 11:10 pm

phoenix. the load times aren't grteat, so i just don't close it.

digitalsy · Post by **digitalsy** » Sun May 04, 2003 12:47 am

Hey just to let you know i've installed galeon, and added galeon -s & to my /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox startup script and DAMMMN does it load fast, if not instantaneously.

I also like the fact is has a google tool bar (which i used extensively in IE)

One thing though...it looks rather, lacking in the gui dept. Like it's using gtk instead of gtk2. Is that normal? Did i compile it wrong?