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Jedi Master · Post by **Jedi Master** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:40 am

Thanks for this release - just great!!!! The very first kernel that started working properly with ugly fujitsu 4200 rpm hard drive - I was thinking of changing puece of junk for something else - but tryed nitro and - I will stay with this hardware for a while, becuse now it WORKS!!!

Thetargos · Post by **Thetargos** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:10 am

Tiger683 wrote:
Thetargos wrote: And thanks for letting me redistribute your work, man!
Hey, it's open source
btw, i couldn't restrict something that's already gpl anyways, and linux kernel certainly is

Just the same, I thought I'd let you know what I was about to do

And still thank you: For the effort put into these patches, and for being such a cool guy!

Thetargos · Post by **Thetargos** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:13 am

[OT]
Not nitro related, but has anoyone else noticed some GCC 4.x hiccups? It already SEGFAULTed on me TWICE and I'm like WHAT?!?! GCC actually SEGFAULTing, what the heck?!?! This was with GCC 4.0.1, by the way.[/OT]

Edit
By the way, this was once on Fedora and once on Gentoo... EXTREMELY wierd. Two completely different systems, both segfaulting.

Tiger683 · Post by **Tiger683** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:21 am

i only had it once, but it wasn't because of gcc itself.
sshfs module segfaulted while i was removing a directory
in a mounted remote ssh, suddenly my whole memory got corrupted i assume and hell
broke out in my mashine, one big horror trip.....
Heh, btw, gcc-4.1 seems to me more stable than 4.0.2 atm....

Thetargos · Post by **Thetargos** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:30 am

I'm thinking on upgrading it... I'll try one last attempt at this, see if I can get it to segfault again, if it does, upgrade time.

BTW, do you know if it possible to cross-build for x86 on x86_64?
TIA!

Tiger683 · Post by **Tiger683** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:00 am

yes, but you will have to either build yourself a crosscompiler (with gcc-4.X not so stable yet...)
or build in a 32bit chroot, which you would have to build first ofcourse...

Thetargos · Post by **Thetargos** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:52 am

I was afraid you were going to say that... If I only had the spare HDD!

Tiger683 · Post by **Tiger683** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:15 am

all you need si the extra 3 gigs...
You'll just need to unpack a stage3 and rebuild glibc binutils gcc to your liking and then reemerge -e system in there. then just bind-mount any directory on your non-chroot to /usr/portage/packages and you can even build binary packages for gentoo systems this way using qpkg or even better with the use flag to make binary package of everything you emerge. this way you get a binary emerge -e system set, which you can 4 example use to install on a 32-bit machine....

hmm, though never tested, i think it should work.
only, i forgot what was the use flag to also quickpkg everything you emerge by default.... :/

Thetargos · Post by **Thetargos** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:59 am

That's exactly my problem! I don't have 3Gigs to spare

My poor HDD needs a buddy desperately!)

satanskin · Post by **satanskin** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:32 pm

I believe the flag you're thinking of is --buildpkg

BeteNoire · Post by **BeteNoire** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:12 pm

My tv card works, performance is better than with gentoo-sources, I have Reiser4 patch to test this filesystem (maybe one day I'll do it... at last

)
I like nitro.

HecHacker1 · Post by **HecHacker1** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:04 pm

This kernel is working great for my laptop, although I still have that disk load problem with reiser4 that I cannot fix. btw, i noticed that the default IO scheduler was cfq, and I had to pass the elevator=anticipatory in the kernel arguments.

Can anybody help me optimize this kernel for a laptop system? I noticed that my memory usage stays around 130MB and never goes above that, the cache is even reluctant to use more. So my hard drive is being used a whole lot and is killing my battery life.

In the past with other kernels it seemed like programs had no problem allocating more than 130MB, but now once that point gets reached the disk activity makes the background CPU usage go to 100% and my system freezes up for a few seconds until the disk activity stops.

Is there some sort of swappiness setting I can control? I have 1.25GB of RAM and it doesn't seem like it's being used.

BeteNoire · Post by **BeteNoire** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:10 pm

Man, with 1250 megs of RAM you don't need swap at all...
Have you enabled "1Gb Low Memory Support" or "High Memory Support" in kernel config?

b3cks · Post by **b3cks** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:15 pm

@HecHacker1: I'm running nitro on an Acer TM and didn't noticed any performance problems so far. But I'll check this these days and will post a report. What is this with the disk load on reiser4? How it is noticable?

HecHacker1 · Post by **HecHacker1** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:16 pm

BeteNoire wrote:Man, with 1250 megs of RAM you don't need swap at all...

which is why I bought 1.25GB, but it seems like the kernel is trying to keep my memory usage to a minimum by moving data in and out of the hard drive, and thus slowing my system to a halt often.

as I explained on page three of this thread, some programs like gedit, even with heavy ldflag optimizations, take 30 seconds and longer just to open a file. Then, after I close the file and try opening it right away again, it takes another 10 seconds, even though the program should be cached in RAM. And during the whole time my disk usage is at 100%.

the only time I see my memory/cache being utilized is during a build of a huge package like kdebase.

HecHacker1 · Post by **HecHacker1** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:20 pm

BeteNoire wrote:Have you enabled "1Gb Low Memory Support" or "High Memory Support" in kernel config?

Right now I am using 4GB or less suport for high mem, i will try using the 1GB low memory option and see what happens, maybe it will fix my problems even though I'll be losing 250MB.

HecHacker1 · Post by **HecHacker1** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:38 pm

b3cks wrote:@HecHacker1: I'm running nitro on an Acer TM and didn't noticed any performance problems so far. But I'll check this these days and will post a report. What is this with the disk load on reiser4? How it is noticable?

while I am in Gnome I have the system monitor applet running in the tray area, and one thing it shows me is disk usage in the background. I often notice with many applications, such as thunderbird, gvim, gedit, that the disk usage goes to 100% in the background, although my Centrino speedstep does not go above 600MHz (the lowest). While the disk usage is at 100% I cannot use the program that is affected, although I can move it's window around, so at least X is not frozen.

On the second start of the same program, the disk usage goes to 100% again, instead of getting the data from the RAM cache.

Also, doing a:
# sync

takes a Very long time and can halt the entire system until it is done.

I should also note that I noticed this change when I moved from reiser4 1.0.0 to 1.0.5.

tuam · Post by **tuam** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:02 pm

Thetargos wrote:
smartdreamer wrote: Anyone with an nVidia card (gForce2 to be exact) recommends some nvidia driver version? When I tried 2.6.14-nitro1 my actual nvidia driver (1.0.6629) didn't like it. It worked with ~x86 but wasn't so stable...
thanks
You may try 7174 or one of the early 7x series, as the newest 7676 I think removes support for GeForce, GeForce 2 and TNT cards.

Depends on the exact chip. (fortunately GeForce II MX for me)

/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7676-r1/README.gz wrote: Appendix A. Supported NVIDIA Graphics Chips
__________________________________________________________________________

NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
------------------------------- -------------------------------
<snip>
GeForce PCX 4300 0x00FF
GeForce2 MX/MX 400 0x0110
GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111
GeForce2 Go 0x0112
Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go 0x0113
<snip>
GeForce2 Integrated GPU 0x01A0
<snip>

Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver.
These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA
GPU driver releases.

NVIDIA chip name Device PCI ID
------------------------------- -------------------------------
RIVA TNT 0x0020
RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro 0x0028
RIVA TNT2 Ultra 0x0029
Vanta/Vanta LT 0x002C
RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro 0x002D
Aladdin TNT2 0x00A0
GeForce 256 0x0100
GeForce DDR 0x0101
Quadro 0x0103
GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro 0x0150
GeForce2 Ti 0x0151
GeForce2 Ultra 0x0152
Quadro2 Pro 0x0153

FF,

Daniel

tuam · Post by **tuam** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:18 pm

OK, I compiled this beauty, but Reiser4 refuses to work. What does this mean

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  Building modules, stage 2.
  MODPOST
*** Warning: "__pagevec_release" [fs/reiser4/reiser4.ko] undefined!

FF,

Daniel

Robin79 · Post by **Robin79** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:17 am

Works great here thanx alot....

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03:17:06 up 2 days,  8:38,  4 users,  load average: 1.39, 1.06, 0.49

1U · Post by 1U » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:19 am

I'm not sure if it's the actual kernel or this patchset, but my system is rather unstable. Can anyone give any advice? Should I try the even newer nitro-sources in hopes of fixing the problem (is it safe with reiser4 though?) or are there any tips on things I can run to scan for problems in different areas? So far I'm cleaning up my use flags and checking my world, then recompiling everything. I've ran revdep-rebuild and that hasn't fixed it yet either. Any more ideas?

Tiger683 · Post by **Tiger683** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:40 am

tuam wrote:OK, I compiled this beauty, but Reiser4 refuses to work. What does this mean
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  Building modules, stage 2.
  MODPOST
*** Warning: "__pagevec_release" [fs/reiser4/reiser4.ko] undefined!
FF,

Daniel

It means you shouldn't build reiser4 as module....

there is a patch for this error on namesys ftp though.....

bollucks · Post by **bollucks** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:10 am

So what custom patching have you added to staircase tiger?

Tiger683 · Post by **Tiger683** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:51 am

no custom patching in that sense... nothing you will find on teh inet....

HecHacker1 · Post by **HecHacker1** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:20 am

i am switching to ext3 for my / partition and leaving reiser4, i'll report back to say if it solves my disk load problem. I really do like reiser4, but something happened in 1.0.5 that slowed it way down for me, at least for my laptop hard drive.