What are we going to do to keep up with Ubuntu?

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loki99 · Post by **loki99** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:25 pm

Nice avatar - you got there, Dlareh!

gstrock · Post by **gstrock** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:45 pm

yes, that was going to be my next question.
why did devfsd go away and what replaced it.
so where do I find the transitioning docs?

ahhh, I guess I should install the latest kernel,
I'm currently on:
2.6.12-gentoo-r3

Shan · Post by **Shan** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:05 am

gstrock wrote:yes, that was going to be my next question.
why did devfsd go away and what replaced it.
so where do I find the transitioning docs?

ahhh, I guess I should install the latest kernel,
I'm currently on:
2.6.12-gentoo-r3

AFAIK devfsd "went away" because the kernel devs deemed it to be unfit for further use now that udev is in place and "stable". As for migration, I *believe* there are some howto's available on the gentoo-wiki, and this should be of some help.

syg00 · Post by **syg00** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:16 am

Get udev in place before you go to 2.6.13 - devfs in now longer there.
Have a look at the udev guide. I did it a couple of weeks back - easy. Then go to 2.6.13.

spottraining · Post by **spottraining** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:26 pm

Sir No wrote:
spottraining wrote:The biggest problems in Gentoo to me are:
How to get my wifi work at startup and how to get suspend work (new kernel is compiled and I use this, but resume don't work...)
I have spend two days now only to get these things to work - and still unsuccessful.
For the wi-fi you can use ndiswrapper. Initially I thought it's almost impossible to use Windows drivers in Linux, but I was very positively surprised. You can see a bunch of links I've used for it on [topic=386955]this topic[/topic] and a brief overview of some things to do in the system. Maybe this will help you too?

And I'm going to try myself with the swsusp2 one day. I just need some space on my disk for a bigger swap partition...

BTW. repartitiong in a "Gentoo way" just rocks!

I mean: tar -p the files, destroy the partition, create a new one, create filesystem there and untar the files. This is a method applicable to ANY Linux. Plus, you get a snapshot file of such a partition - so it can be used as a backup (hint! hint!)

This card works fine with open source drivers. I have using this very long time with Fedora and also I get one day this fine work with gentoo. Only problem is, that some wireless configuration don't starting at boot. It says that No Acsess Points found.
But thanks for the Link - evry information is good allways

I tray this in weekend again and also this suspend2 things.

I hope that Gentoo can also in Laptop beat the Ubuntu

AssociateX · Post by **AssociateX** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:49 am

And now for my witty reply from the bottom of the intelligence food chain.

I mount tractor tires... onto tractor rims, for a living. I have nothing to do with computers at work. But I was smart enough to be able to install Mandrake (My Ubuntu substitute for this writing since Ubuntu sounds like Mandrake with the hardware detection and easy install and all, and yes I know Mandrake is Mandriva now).

I like Gentoo because it's frickin' fun. I got a case (that's 24 cans for all you wine snoobs) of Busch light and installed gentoo. I installed it about 12 more times over the next 2 weeks or so and a couple more times after that. For every install I learned something pretty cool until I was doing that install where you end up recompiling the whole system after a stage2 install to fix some problems with missing this or that's. Anyway, now I'm to a point where I can shoot the breeze with the company computer guy at work... or at least I can ask questions that sound half way intelligent.

Gentoo is like an endless puzzle of possibilities that has kept me entertained over the last 2 years, Ubuntu takes that all away with there easy install and then having to wait six months for a next realease, pooh.

djpharoah · Post by **djpharoah** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:00 am

Gentoo cant be compared to Ubuntu as they both have different purposes in mind

only thing i would say that Gentoo is lacking is good Laptop Support.

curtis119 · Post by **curtis119** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:58 am

djpharoah wrote:Gentoo cant be compared to Ubuntu as they both have different purposes in mind

only thing i would say that Gentoo is lacking is good Laptop Support.

My laptop works perfectly. Even the built in modem and suspend to disk work. What laptop do you have that Gentoo doesn't support?

Q-collective · Post by **Q-collective** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:57 am

If Gentoo doesn't support it, no Linux distro will support it, so your laptop is screwed anyway.

Archangel1 · Post by **Archangel1** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:46 am

Q-collective wrote:If Gentoo doesn't support it, no Linux distro will support it, so your laptop is screwed anyway.

Word. Mine does damn near everything - wireless, suspend-to-disk, suspend-to-RAM, the works.
Where things like suspend-to-RAM don't work it's generally a kernel thing - I have yet to see any distro that actually works where others fail in that regard.

Of course in Gentoo you have to set up a few bits yourself, but we know it works that way - it's laptop support is no more lacking than it's desktop support!

Blood Fluke · Post by **Blood Fluke** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:54 pm

Archangel1 wrote:[...] so its laptop support is no more lacking than it's desktop support!

That ain't saying much.

djpharoah · Post by **djpharoah** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:23 pm

curtis119 wrote:
djpharoah wrote:Gentoo cant be compared to Ubuntu as they both have different purposes in mind

only thing i would say that Gentoo is lacking is good Laptop Support.
My laptop works perfectly. Even the built in modem and suspend to disk work. What laptop do you have that Gentoo doesn't support?

well i have an IBM A31p

its just it was a bitch for me to get suspend-to-ram working..but i meant..its not easy to get it going..

What are we going to do to keep up with Ubuntu?

devfsd - somewhat off topic

Re: devfsd - somewhat off topic