cannot start hald[help!]

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Halahad · Post by **Halahad** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:10 am

I have no chance to get my hal-0.5.4 work after upgrading to gnome 2.12. reemerge hal dbus, try to do revdep-rebuild, got the same result. I just can't start the hald service, dunno what's wrong with it, there is no error messege either.
now i have to mount my usb disk mannually.
thx dude, pls help me out and sorry for my poor english

freelight · Post by **freelight** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:38 am

Please run

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hald --verbose=yes

as root, and post the output.

Halahad · Post by **Halahad** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:47 am

# hald --verbose=yes
11:44:53.687 hald.c:494: hal 0.5.4
11:44:53.688 hald.c:496: Will daemonize
11:44:53.688 hald.c:506: Becoming a daemon

# /etc/init.d/hald start
* Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon ... [ !! ]

maxcow · Post by **maxcow** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:01 am

It seems hald is running, and you're just trying to start another one. you can confirm by running

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ps aux | grep hal

The devices not showing is a 2.12 bug, see for example, this thread:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-388078.html

One workaround discussed on the main gnome 2.12 thread is actually not running hald.

Halahad · Post by **Halahad** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:50 am

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#/etc/init.d/hald start
 * Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon ...                         [[color=red] !![/color] ]

# hald --verbose=yes
19:46:57.394 [I] hald.c:494: hal 0.5.4
19:46:57.404 [I] hald.c:496: Will daemonize
19:46:57.404 [I] hald.c:506: Becoming a daemon

# ps aux | grep hal
root      9613  0.0  0.1   1540   472 pts/0    R+   19:24   0:00 grep hal
#

it's all, ya can see there is no process called hal.

maxcow wrote:It seems hald is running, and you're just trying to start another one. you can confirm by running
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ps aux | grep hal
The devices not showing is a 2.12 bug, see for example, this thread:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-388078.html

One workaround discussed on the main gnome 2.12 thread is actually not running hald.

I dun think i have the problem which is describe in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-388078.html . I just can't start the deamon.
I do have filesystems which is automounted in teh My Computer window, the problem is when i plug in a removable disk, i have to mount it mannully, or it will not displayed.

After downgrading to hal-0.4.5, it works now except some depandent errors. I know it's not even a solution/

any good ideas?

p.n · Post by **p.n** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:25 pm

Same problem here. Any solutions yet?

batistuta · Post by **batistuta** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:45 am

Same problem. It was working with the KDE3.4/hal0.48/older dbus. After upgrading KDE to 3.5 and HAL and dbus, now doesn't work.
Someone please come and rescue 5 of us at once

batistuta · Post by **batistuta** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:09 am

I am using ck6 kernel. Could this have anything to do with it? I remember HAL checking for my src directory during compilation.
I might try booting in gentoo sources once I get back home, and recompiling under gentoo-sources...
What about the rest of you guys? Which sources are you running?

batistuta · Post by **batistuta** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:28 pm

I have tried recompiling hal with linux-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 and again no luck. Does anyone have a clue? This is driving me crazy, I NEED hal!
Anything that I should try? Has the rest found a solution or given up? Thankx

p.n · Post by **p.n** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:59 pm

No solution yet. Maybe it is time to submit a bug?

batistuta · Post by **batistuta** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:14 pm

I have one last suggestion... maybe some of the rules from the old hal are affecting the new one. How can we COMPLETELY remove hal, in order to install it again? Are there any special configuration files somewhere, which might need to be removed manually? (i.e. emerge --unmerge hal does not clean up)

p.n · Post by **p.n** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:54 pm

You might find this useful

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-400702.html

batistuta · Post by **batistuta** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:53 pm

p.n. you have no idea how thankfull I am. I have been extremely frustrated about this for the past week but your link provided the solution.
In particular, this is what solved it for me. In THIS order

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# /etc/init.d/dbus stop 
# /etc/init.d/hald stop 
 
# emerge -C dbus hal 
# rm -rf /etc/dbus-1 
# rm -rf /etc/hal 

# emerge dbus 
# etc-update
# /etc/init.d/dbus start
# /etc/init.d/dbus stop
# emerge hal 
# etc-update
# /etc/init.d/dbus start
# /etc/init.d/hald start

and now it works

1e6 thanks!

p.n · Post by **p.n** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:11 pm

Which version of dbus are you running?

batistuta · Post by **batistuta** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:23 pm

I am running dbus 0.50-r1

Henno · Post by **Henno** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:26 pm

batistuta:

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# /etc/init.d/dbus stop
# /etc/init.d/hald stop
 
# emerge -C dbus hal
# rm -rf /etc/dbus-1
# rm -rf /etc/hal

# emerge dbus
# etc-update
# /etc/init.d/dbus start
# /etc/init.d/dbus stop
# emerge hal
# etc-update
# /etc/init.d/dbus start
# /etc/init.d/hald start

Did help me, too.
Thank you for discovering it!

My working setup now:

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# emerge -pv dbus hal

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/dbus-0.50-r1  +X -debug -doc +gtk -mono -python -qt -xml2 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.4  -debug -doc -pam_console -pcmcia 0 kB

p.n · Post by **p.n** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:44 pm

Just a note. It's gotta be dbus 0.5.4-r1 or higher else it does not work.

Ark del KAOS · Post by **Ark del KAOS** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:13 pm

Hey, this really work on me
Thanks you

cannot start hald[help!]

cannot start hald[help!]

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