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[LIVEDVD] Gentoo RR4 & RR64 LiveDVD Thread

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Post by sobers_2002 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:21 am

@ Adwin : hey whats your ftp address????
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Post by lxnay » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:25 pm

Adwin wrote:Well, Ali3nx, we appreciate your offer.
It sure will help, getting some fast mirrors.
I'm on a 1000/100 and have already placed the LiveDVD on my FTP.
But still, it would help distributing the bandwidth and sys resources.

lxnay:
It would be great staying away from morph-sources, since many people keep getting superblock corruption with reiser4.
What I do is custom patching on pure vanilla kernel. And that works best. Don't forget SMP this time.
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Also, as I have recommended before, try adding fluxbox. It's < 1Mb, FAST and stable.
Nobody wants big eye candy and you can always save the system resources. Even if you have a devilish machine.
I myself am on a dual opteron system, but bootstrapping from a livecd always needs every ounce of power.
Anyway, even IF you want eyecandy, it WOULD save a LOT of space, enabling only 1 WM.
KDE, Gnome, XFCE4, whatever.
Take into account that most users prefer the fast but powerful features of Midnight Commander.
It also doesn't require much space.
As for file editing, why not include VIM?
It's a very good editor, and most people would feel restricted getting access to nano only.

As for myself, I can provide you with binary packages of most of the needed files, optimized for stability AND speed.
You would just need emerge -k ...

You already have my email, but I'm mostly available on jabber.
adwin@jabber.autocom.pl

Hope you take the critics positively.

I'm halfway done with my own liveDVD too. Just need adjusting some scripts.
Yes yes, everything you need will be in 2.60. I'm testing and fixing Gentoo Linux Installer 0.1. The rest is finished, KDE 3.4.2 (+hal 0.5), GNOME 2.12.0, XFCE 4.2.2, Fluxbox !!
I've promised you all a powerful LiveDVD, and you'll get that !

Midnight Commander is there, and the final sources are angel-sources-2.6.13-r3, they're very stable and powerful. I could add, if you want, a third legacy kernel from gentoo-sources, but I don't think that it's so important.

Yes, SMP is here and rocks ;).

Now I'm trying to install Gentoo from stage3 with gentoo installer, then I'll try with livecd packages. Yes, because quickpkg is fully functional on this new livedvd.
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Post by lxnay » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:57 am

Here's 11 screenshots: http://lxnay.no-ip.org/index.php?action ... ts=1&id=27
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Post by jisakiel » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:35 pm

Just for the records... The 2.40 LiveDVD doesnt boot on my laptop. Grub error 21, and it hangs... I can recall Ubuntu´s first liveCD, I think Warty, having the same problem (not happening with 5.04). Laptop is an Amilo M1420 from Fujitsu Siemens, dual DVD drive. On my main computer I still haven´t tried, but your LiveCD worked fine.
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Post by lxnay » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:29 pm

jisakiel wrote:Just for the records... The 2.40 LiveDVD doesnt boot on my laptop. Grub error 21, and it hangs... I can recall Ubuntu´s first liveCD, I think Warty, having the same problem (not happening with 5.04). Laptop is an Amilo M1420 from Fujitsu Siemens, dual DVD drive. On my main computer I still haven´t tried, but your LiveCD worked fine.
It's a "grub and your laptop" problem ;) This problem happens always on some laptop and it's caused by a non-standard bios...
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Post by Adwin » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:36 pm

sobers_2002 wrote:@ Adwin : hey whats your ftp address????
The URL is in the first post about the liveDVD.

Here it is again: ftp://adwin.hopto.org/Gentoo-RR64-2.50.iso
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Post by lxnay » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:31 pm

RR4 is working quite good. Stage3 install with livecd kernel works like a charm. I need to test stage1, stage2 and build a script to copy the livedvd system to hardisk, and integrate it in gentoo linux installer. I've added a NX Client auto connect mode to fire up a bunch of thin clients on the fly. The requirements? /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1 (usb keys) with a working rw linux fs (ext2, ext3, xfs, reiserfs, reiser4, blah, blah2, blah3). On it you can store "startinternetkiosk.sh" and insert what you want. It will be executed at boot time and with that, you can change user settings, network config, desktop environment, well, what can you do with a bash script on one hand, and a keyboard on the other :twisted: ??

I'm :twisted: :evil:
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Post by lxnay » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:34 pm

And the funny thing is that I've always been ignored by gentoo devs :) Look at experimental Gentoo X LiveCD, and look at mine. These are, and will be, facts.
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Post by R-Type » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:52 am

Tried the AMD64 version 2.5 image. It doesn't seem to recognize any of my optical drives..

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msi k8n neo mobo nforce3 250gb
adaptec 2940u2w
3200+ a64 S754
two SCSI hds and one sata hd
two SCSI cd/dvd roms and one SATA dvdrw.
other stuff that shouldn't matter :P

No optical drives get detected, just the hds. When it asks me to type in the path to a device or 'shell' I opt for shell and search /dev for devices..I can't find any that would make sense. I looked at the kernel startup messages and noticed that while it seems to pick up the SCSI controller itself, it does not list any of the cdrom drives..only the two hds. Same deal with the nv_sata driver. Did you forget to compile SCSI cd-rom support into the kernel? That's the only thing I can figure...

Anyway, without optical support in the kernel or loaded as modules by coldplug (they're not in /lib/modules/$kernelver either), the main system image is not accessible.

Am I even close, or am I just clueless? Usually I'm pretty good about figuring this stuff out but not this time I guess. Either way, I thought I'd let you know of my experience.
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Post by lxnay » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:51 am

2.60 will support DVD to HD Install. You'll never see another as powerful LiveDVD as mine :). Wait, you don't have to do anything else ;)
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Post by R-Type » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:48 am

Well, I meant that machine doesn't even finish booting because it can't mount the squashfs image.
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Post by lxnay » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:35 pm

R-Type wrote:Tried the AMD64 version 2.5 image. It doesn't seem to recognize any of my optical drives..

system:

msi k8n neo mobo nforce3 250gb
adaptec 2940u2w
3200+ a64 S754
two SCSI hds and one sata hd
two SCSI cd/dvd roms and one SATA dvdrw.
other stuff that shouldn't matter :P

No optical drives get detected, just the hds. When it asks me to type in the path to a device or 'shell' I opt for shell and search /dev for devices..I can't find any that would make sense. I looked at the kernel startup messages and noticed that while it seems to pick up the SCSI controller itself, it does not list any of the cdrom drives..only the two hds. Same deal with the nv_sata driver. Did you forget to compile SCSI cd-rom support into the kernel? That's the only thing I can figure...

Anyway, without optical support in the kernel or loaded as modules by coldplug (they're not in /lib/modules/$kernelver either), the main system image is not accessible.

Am I even close, or am I just clueless? Usually I'm pretty good about figuring this stuff out but not this time I guess. Either way, I thought I'd let you know of my experience.
Sorry man, but couldn't you use an ATAPI DVD-R ? ;)
After 2.60 I'll come back to RR64 3.0 ;) It'll have all 2.60 functionalities (will be a hard work !) and a little bit more.
If anyone wants to help me or wants to maintain RR64 with me, I have no problem.

Anyone knows an application like git or subversion to share with you 5GB of data :roll: 8) ??
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Post by Rad » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:00 pm

lxnay wrote:Anyone knows an application like git or subversion to share with you 5GB of data :roll: 8) ??
SVN (and maybe additionally SVK) can do it fairly well, thanks to v/xdelta and all that stuff... :)

But I think your page's htdocs disappeared again, lxnay - and this time even more (all) of it? XD
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Post by lxnay » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:45 pm

Ok thank you ;) !
I'm spending last 2.60 development hours to test Gentoo Installer. Every problem/bug has been addressed. Every (or most in worst cases) request has been considered and included. ali3nx, if you read this, I should be quite ready to spread out 2.60 LiveDVD on one of your HTTP/FTP server and Bittorrent Tracker. If you can setup a tracker on your server I could add it in my torrent.

Please be patient.
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Post by jaspeh » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:50 pm

Maybe I missed something, but why isn't there a livecd that is just commandline and doesn't have KDE,Gnome and other programs that are, well, basicly useless?
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Post by lxnay » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:57 pm

You missed something ;)... Go to www.gentoo.org and download gentoo livecd 2005.1 ;)

Gentoo RR4 2.60 will be released in few hours... so, prepare your hardisks and start your CPU fans ;)
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Post by jaspeh » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:26 pm

lxnay wrote:You missed something ;)... Go to www.gentoo.org and download gentoo livecd 2005.1 ;)

Gentoo RR4 2.60 will be released in few hours... so, prepare your hardisks and start your CPU fans ;)
Offical gentoo livecd supports reiser4 now?
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Post by lindmik » Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:57 am

Okay, I'm the only leecher at the moment and I still only get 3kb/s :(
lxnay, what upload rate do you have?

And of course Thank You for making this splendid piece of software :D
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Post by lxnay » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:46 am

Yeah, you're the first leecher :)
Well, I'm testing 2.60 on my computers and I've found 2 very very small bugs related to the install from DVD to HD. In few words, kdebluetoothdrc path in dvdinstall.sh (in /mnt/livecd/scripts/) is wrong. So kdebluetooth won't be disabled if a bluetooth devices is not found. The other one, is kde_language.desktop copy path. It tries to copy from dvd to /home/tecnico/Desktop/.kde/Autostart instead of /home/tecnico/.kde/Autostart.
From now on, I'll make xdelta (very small) patches to fix these very small annoyances and they will be called 2.60.1, 2.60.2, 2.60.3. Like the kernel version numbering.
Don't worry, there won't be many .dot releases ;)
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Post by erikgj » Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:21 pm

Thanks Lxnay, I'm downloading it now. I am bumping up my upload speeds as well. I'll seed it as soon as I can.
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2.60 - AMD64/P4-64 bit optimized or only 32-bit ???

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Post by greyskies » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:04 pm

Is the current release Gentoo-RR4-2.60.iso optimized for 32 and 64-bit processors, or only 32 bit processors?

If the later (32-bit only), then should I start with an install of Gentoo-RR64-2.50.iso and wait for a future release to get optimization of my Intel P4 3.0Ghz Prescott CPU?

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Post by lxnay » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:45 pm

greyskies wrote:Is the current release Gentoo-RR4-2.60.iso optimized for 32 and 64-bit processors, or only 32 bit processors?

If the later (32-bit only), then should I start with an install of Gentoo-RR64-2.50.iso and wait for a future release to get optimization of my Intel P4 3.0Ghz Prescott CPU?

greyskies in South Florida
Get 2.60. With 2.60 you can use SMP kernel and enable HT on your P4. Btw, I think that Prescott doesn't have 64bit Intel extensions.
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Post by lxnay » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:43 pm

Screenshots Tour on: http://lxnaydesign.net/index.php?action ... ts=1&id=35 !!
Or osdir.com ;)
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Post by CapnLoogie » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:55 pm

Lxnay do you plan on updating the CD version? I have an older laptop that I would like to install to but I dont have a DVD drive for it. Great work on the DVD btw :-)

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Post by lxnay » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:39 pm

CapnLoogie wrote:Lxnay do you plan on updating the CD version? I have an older laptop that I would like to install to but I dont have a DVD drive for it. Great work on the DVD btw :-)

Thanks

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No I'm very sorry man... But could you get an external usb DVD drive? Or connect your laptop hardisk to a desktop computer using a cheap IDE adapter.
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