What is your favorite Gentoo installation method?

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Sir No · Post by **Sir No** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:58 pm

I've been using Gentoo for over two years now. During that time I've used several installation methods. It seems to me that the method I was using was also changing - according to the amount of my knowledge over Gentoo's inner workings.

So I just wanted to ask you: what is your favorite method of installing Gentoo?

kimchi_sg · Post by **kimchi_sg** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:10 pm

vanilla stage 1.

ben_zarges · Post by **ben_zarges** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:20 pm

same here.

loki99 · Post by **loki99** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:21 pm

Jackass! at the moment.

The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported!

cp_tar · Post by **cp_tar** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:41 pm

loki99 wrote:Jackass! at the moment.

The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported!

Never heard of it... should I have?

Headrush · Post by **Headrush** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:59 pm

Have never used or tried anything but stage1 install by Handbook.
It's always worked with no problems on several machines.

loki99 · Post by **loki99** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:45 pm

cp_tar wrote:
loki99 wrote:Jackass! at the moment.

The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported!
Never heard of it... should I have?

Take a look for yourself.

thaswiftness · Post by **thaswiftness** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:52 pm

loki99 wrote:Jackass! at the moment.

The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported!

Indeed. Jackass! gets my vote as well.

mark_alec · Post by **mark_alec** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:02 am

Currently it is a stage3 install as it is much faster to perform than a stage one. If I ever install again I may try Jackass if it supports my architecture.

Q-collective · Post by **Q-collective** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:42 am

mark_alec wrote:Currently it is a stage3 install as it is much faster to perform than a stage one. If I ever install again I may try Jackass if it supports my architecture.

Same.

codergeek42 · Post by **codergeek42** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:31 am

Vanilla Stage1.

AaronPPC · Post by **AaronPPC** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:45 am

Stage 1. It's how I learned Linux. It's like learning to swim by being thrown in the middle of the lake.

--Aaron

cp_tar · Post by **cp_tar** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:33 am

loki99 wrote:
cp_tar wrote:
loki99 wrote:Jackass! at the moment.

The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported!
Never heard of it... should I have?
Take a look for yourself.

Cute.
But I think I'll stick to Stage 1.

joey_knisch · Post by **joey_knisch** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:05 am

1) Stage 3 to just before reboot.
2) emerge ccache.
3) nano make.conf
4) emerge -e GCC
5) build kernel using new GCC
6) reboot
7) emerge links

emerge -e world
9) browse web and let stuff happen.

Just on a side note. I should really figure out fb so I can view some por...

I mean um... gentoo forums while we wait for X to build.

thomasvk · Post by **thomasvk** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:50 am

I use Stage 3 by the Handbook, just because I never bothered looking at Stage 1 and the first time I was scared Stage 1 was too difficult.

Sir No · Post by **Sir No** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:10 pm

And I have to admit that in the end I came back to the roots as well. // pun intended

So, for my last server installation I went through stage1 install again.

It was almost like my first Gentoo installation.

Very refreshing indeed!

Poe · Post by **Poe** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:25 pm

I use Gentoo after 1,5 years, when I installed (compiled) Gentoo twice. First from s1 and second from s3 + backup. It is my favorite install method.

Dlareh · Post by **Dlareh** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:34 pm

I use a KNOPPIX livecd and a stage3 tarball (Jackass! where available).

I will probably try the new Kororaa next time. Not because I use KDE, but because KDE is such a pain to compile and I need to have it lying around for various reasons.

Unless you happen to know what a CHOST is, all you Stage1 people are just wasting your time with a completely inferior installation method. Take a look at Bob P's Stage1/3 thread for all your optimilazation needs.

And no, you do NOT learn more by doing a Stage1. Basically all you get to do is waste your time waiting for the bootstrap (which is highly prone to failure) to finish. Then you are at Stage2, which of course is also a pointless distinction.

EDIT: an example of such failure when progressing to/from Stage2. Many others exist and happen during the actual bootstrap; they crop up all the time.

thomasvk · Post by **thomasvk** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:48 pm

Dlareh wrote:Unless you happen to know what a CHOST is, all you Stage1 people are just wasting your time with a completely inferior installation method. Take a look at Bob P's Stage1/3 thread for all your optimilazation needs.

And no, you do NOT learn more by doing a Stage1. Basically all you get to do is waste your time waiting for the bootstrap (which is highly prone to failure) to finish. Then you are at Stage2, which of course is also a pointless distinction.

I felt bad about not having done a Stage 1, but you removed all my worries.

chunderbunny · Post by **chunderbunny** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:42 pm

Stage 3 for me, usually with a few GRP packages to get me going. My machine is reasonably powerful so optimisations do not concern me. Even on a slow machine I can have a working desktop (fluxbox, firefox etc) up and running in about 3 hours.

Taladar · Post by **Taladar** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:01 pm

Stage 1 manually but I usually shuffle around the order of doing things a bit compared to the handbook to minimize non-compile-times.
Usually the compilation process doesn't mind me editing the config files for the next steps in the second console.

MJOE · Post by **MJOE** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:00 am

It's Jackass

Wietze · Post by **Wietze** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:13 pm

cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6

Dlareh · Post by **Dlareh** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:02 pm

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cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6

That's the first one. There are two more : P

cp_tar · Post by **cp_tar** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:10 pm

Dlareh wrote:
cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootstrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6
That's the first one. There are two more : P

There is also a typo in the command that would cause the install to fail.