Gnome 2.12

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tallest · Post by **tallest** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:29 pm

I installed 2.12 when it first entered portage (no real problems so far, yay!) and I was wondering if anyone knows how to get "Computer" to show up in Nautilus's "Places" sidebar, maybe "Network Servers" too.

Thanks, Aaron

drjimmy42 · Post by **drjimmy42** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:08 am

ikshaar wrote:Did you try resetting themes and other desktop settings ? Nautilus was very unstable for me until I did so. Also did you disable famd as it often stay lock on 100% CPU for no obvious reason.

I logged out of gnome, killed all gnome related processes, restarted dbus, hald and stopped famd. Nautilus is still taking up 100% of CPU whenever it is running or drawing the desktop. Any other thoughts, or ways of figuring out what the hell its doing?

snakeroot · Post by **snakeroot** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:20 am

tallest:

If I understand the question:

Navigate to the location you want to add to the sidebar

In the menubar go to Bookmarks > Add Bookmark OR just hit Control+D

If you change your mind, in the menubar go to Bookmarks > Edit Bookmarks OR just hit Control+B.

Regards,

Lokheed · Post by **Lokheed** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:24 am

drjimmy42 wrote:After emerging gnome-2.12 last night, nautilus leaves the CPU spiked at all times. 100% whenever nautilus browser is open or the desktop is being drawn. The only way to stop it was to close nautilus and have it not draw the desktop.

Kinda makes nautilus not so useful. Has anyone else seen this?

What resolution are you running at and what size is your wallpaper and style is your wallpaper set at (IE: Tiled, Centered, etc.)?

drjimmy42 · Post by **drjimmy42** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:04 am

Lokheed wrote:
drjimmy42 wrote:After emerging gnome-2.12 last night, nautilus leaves the CPU spiked at all times. 100% whenever nautilus browser is open or the desktop is being drawn. The only way to stop it was to close nautilus and have it not draw the desktop.

Kinda makes nautilus not so useful. Has anyone else seen this?
What resolution are you running at and what size is your wallpaper and style is your wallpaper set at (IE: Tiled, Centered, etc.)?

1600x1200 with latest nvidia drivers with a stretched centered picture for a background.

I'm not sure if this is relevant however because it worked fine all along with gnome 2.x, x < 12. Also, even if I tell nautilus not to draw the desktop, if the filemanager window is open, processor spike. If I tell nautilus to draw the desktop then it is spiked all the time because technically the nautilus processes always exists drawing the desktop even if no file manager window is open.

My solution now is to close all file manager windows and stop the desktop from drawing so that there are no nautilus processes at all. Very sad because the new nautilus looks really cool.

maKKus · Post by **maKKus** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:36 am

I've still the problem that Nautilus, File Chooser and the disk mount applet is not picking up when a removable medium is inserted. Hal is detecting it, Gnome-volume-manager handles and mount it, but there is no icon change under Nautilus, File Chooser and the disk mount applet. When I click the disk mounter applet or the device in Computer then I receive an error stating the device is allready mounted. Ejecting with help of the context menu is working.

The device is known in /etc/fstab and it is mounted correct.

Am I the only one with this problem?

maxcow · Post by **maxcow** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:13 pm

maKKus wrote:Am I the only one with this problem?

Nope, same here.
Adding myself to plugdev group didn't solve the problem, although it must be a necessary step.
Still looking for the solution..

xaelis · Post by **xaelis** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:45 pm

maKKus wrote:I've still the problem that Nautilus, File Chooser and the disk mount applet is not picking up when a removable medium is inserted. Hal is detecting it, Gnome-volume-manager handles and mount it, but there is no icon change under Nautilus, File Chooser and the disk mount applet. When I click the disk mounter applet or the device in Computer then I receive an error stating the device is allready mounted. Ejecting with help of the context menu is working.

The device is known in /etc/fstab and it is mounted correct.

Try this :

- Remove lines about removable medium in /etc/fstab
- add your user(s) in the plugdev group
by editing /etc/group
or
by the tool Desktop->Administration->Users and groups
double click on the user you want to add
go to "User privileges" tab
and check "Enable to access external storage devices automatically"
- relogon is the user is already logged

It must be works

reptile · Post by **reptile** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:46 pm

try to either start famd, or (preferably) remove famd, and install gamin instead (ideally with an inotify-enabled kernel).

ikshaar · Post by **ikshaar** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:51 pm

drjimmy42 wrote:I logged out of gnome, killed all gnome related processes, restarted dbus, hald and stopped famd. Nautilus is still taking up 100% of CPU whenever it is running or drawing the desktop. Any other thoughts, or ways of figuring out what the hell its doing?

I meant reset the settings of gnome, by deleting ~/.gnome, ~/.gnome2 and other gnome related folder settings. You can try first changing the themes you are using. As I said, nautilus was crashing on me for using a certain icon theme (which was working in 2.10).

My problem, meld crashes in 2.12. recompiling did not solve.

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root / # meld
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/meld", line 87, in ?
    import meldapp
  File "/usr/lib/meld/meldapp.py", line 27, in ?
    import prefs
  File "/usr/lib/meld/prefs.py", line 52, in ?
    import gconf
ImportError: No module named gconf

Some python modules missing ?

drjimmy42 · Post by **drjimmy42** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:34 am

drjimmy42 wrote:
Lokheed wrote:
drjimmy42 wrote:After emerging gnome-2.12 last night, nautilus leaves the CPU spiked at all times. 100% whenever nautilus browser is open or the desktop is being drawn. The only way to stop it was to close nautilus and have it not draw the desktop.

Kinda makes nautilus not so useful. Has anyone else seen this?
What resolution are you running at and what size is your wallpaper and style is your wallpaper set at (IE: Tiled, Centered, etc.)?
1600x1200 with latest nvidia drivers with a stretched centered picture for a background.

I'm not sure if this is relevant however because it worked fine all along with gnome 2.x, x < 12. Also, even if I tell nautilus not to draw the desktop, if the filemanager window is open, processor spike. If I tell nautilus to draw the desktop then it is spiked all the time because technically the nautilus processes always exists drawing the desktop even if no file manager window is open.

My solution now is to close all file manager windows and stop the desktop from drawing so that there are no nautilus processes at all. Very sad because the new nautilus looks really cool.

Ok new wrinkle. I renamed all .gconf* .gnome* directories from my home dir. I fired up gnome and the default desktop came up. And .... no processor spike.

Problem solved right? Not quite.

I open the file manager and the processor goes up. This is different than before however. Before both the desktop and the file manager made the processor spike. Now its just the file manager. The difference? Before my desktop was showing my home dir as the desktop, so the desktop was viewing files just like the file manager. However, the default setting is not to show the home dir and just to show the Desktop dir which has nothing in it.

Another thing, if I open up the file manager, processor spike, then click on the Computer button to show devices and stuff, processor goes back to normal.

SOOOooooo.... When nautilus, desktop or file manager, is displaying a real directory with files of any kind, processor spike. If either is just showing in memory constructs such as the Computer screen in nautilus, the processor is quiet.

Just in case someone asks, this behavior does not change famd, dbus or hald are started or stopped in any combination. They don't seem to effect it at all.

Ok, so anyone figure this out yet?

Lokheed · Post by **Lokheed** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:39 am

drjimmy42 wrote:
drjimmy42 wrote:
Lokheed wrote:
drjimmy42 wrote:After emerging gnome-2.12 last night, nautilus leaves the CPU spiked at all times. 100% whenever nautilus browser is open or the desktop is being drawn. The only way to stop it was to close nautilus and have it not draw the desktop.

Kinda makes nautilus not so useful. Has anyone else seen this?
What resolution are you running at and what size is your wallpaper and style is your wallpaper set at (IE: Tiled, Centered, etc.)?
1600x1200 with latest nvidia drivers with a stretched centered picture for a background.

I'm not sure if this is relevant however because it worked fine all along with gnome 2.x, x < 12. Also, even if I tell nautilus not to draw the desktop, if the filemanager window is open, processor spike. If I tell nautilus to draw the desktop then it is spiked all the time because technically the nautilus processes always exists drawing the desktop even if no file manager window is open.

My solution now is to close all file manager windows and stop the desktop from drawing so that there are no nautilus processes at all. Very sad because the new nautilus looks really cool.
Ok new wrinkle. I renamed all .gconf* .gnome* directories from my home dir. I fired up gnome and the default desktop came up. And .... no processor spike.

Problem solved right? Not quite.

I open the file manager and the processor goes up. This is different than before however. Before both the desktop and the file manager made the processor spike. Now its just the file manager. The difference? Before my desktop was showing my home dir as the desktop, so the desktop was viewing files just like the file manager. However, the default setting is not to show the home dir and just to show the Desktop dir which has nothing in it.

Another thing, if I open up the file manager, processor spike, then click on the Computer button to show devices and stuff, processor goes back to normal.

SOOOooooo.... When nautilus, desktop or file manager, is displaying a real directory with files of any kind, processor spike. If either is just showing in memory constructs such as the Computer screen in nautilus, the processor is quiet.

Just in case someone asks, this behavior does not change famd, dbus or hald are started or stopped in any combination. They don't seem to effect it at all.

Ok, so anyone figure this out yet?

I recommend removing fam and portmap and installing gamin. Do not use fam with the new GNOME.

ikshaar · Post by **ikshaar** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:23 am

Try also to disable all previews in preferences ... may be you have a file that cause trouble to Nautilus.

And reset your icon theme if you are not using default one !!

drjimmy42 · Post by **drjimmy42** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:32 am

ikshaar wrote:Try also to disable all previews in preferences ... may be you have a file that cause trouble to Nautilus.

And reset your icon theme if you are not using default one !!

Thanks again for the suggestion. All previews off. I moved my .theme directory and the icon theme is set to Gnome, which I can only assume is the default. Logged out and logged back in. Still no change. Good thought though.

tallest · Post by **tallest** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:23 pm

snakeroot wrote:tallest:

If I understand the question:

Navigate to the location you want to add to the sidebar

In the menubar go to Bookmarks > Add Bookmark OR just hit Control+D

If you change your mind, in the menubar go to Bookmarks > Edit Bookmarks OR just hit Control+B.

Regards,

This does provide a solution, although it's not quite what I was looking for. Adding "Computer" to my GTK bookmarks makes it show up in Nautilus's places sidebar, but it also makes it show up in the Gnome Places menu as "/", yielding 2 entries in that menu that take me to "Computer".

What I would really like is some way to add "Computer" to the Nautilus Places sidebar without adding it to my GTK bookmarks.

Thanks again,
Aaron

AllenB · Post by **AllenB** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:05 pm

Is it me or is the new menu editing function of 2.12 really weak?

Seems like Smeg has more value then the built in editing. I guess I will just go back to editing .desktop files by hand.

vipernicus · Post by **vipernicus** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:31 pm

AllenB wrote:Is it me or is the new menu editing function of 2.12 really weak?

Seems like Smeg has more value then the built in editing. I guess I will just go back to editing .desktop files by hand.

Why don't you just use Smeg. Works for me with 2.12.

DetectiveInspekta · Post by **DetectiveInspekta** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:10 pm

I have smeg installed but I can only use it as root, what palces do I need to set file permissions for it to work.
It works fine as root not problems, but Im a normal user so it doesn't change a thing as normal users.

certocivitas · Post by **certocivitas** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:44 pm

AllenB wrote:Is it me or is the new menu editing function of 2.12 really weak?

Yes, the devs claim it will be fleshed out in future releases. One can only hope. As is, its a waste of bits.

asiobob · Post by **asiobob** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:54 pm

The menu editor is there for the sake of having one. If you need to do some serious editing where serious is now classes as more than "showing/disabling" a menu option then you need a 3rd party editor.

Also in gnome 2.10 i had desklets nicely working. It stopped in Gnome 2.12, the error was Orbit related, it exited after one line of spam on the console. I fixed it today after I ran python-updater as root.

hmm now just to make/wait for the new Beagle ebuilds to come out and I'll have a perfect system, where it just works is just that.

ikshaar · Post by **ikshaar** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:32 pm

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?????/??C

This is now the name of my Firewire external drive when it appears on desktop.... a bit annoying.
This is the /var/log/messages at same time:

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Sep 21 11:07:28 jupiter sdb: sdb1
Sep 21 11:07:28 jupiter Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Sep 21 11:07:28 jupiter Attached scsi generic sg1 at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 0
Sep 21 11:07:28 jupiter scsi.agent[30123]: disk at devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0/0000:01:0c.0/fw-host0/00d04b540c01deb5/00d04b540c01deb5-0/host5/target5:0:0/5:0:0:0

As we unmasked hald/dbus I guess this is the reason they were masked

snakeroot · Post by **snakeroot** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:57 am

Is that what shows up as the value of the "volume.label" string for the relevant volume in hal device manager? I think that's what g-v-m uses as the label; if so, you can overwrite it in a user .fdi file.

Regards,

lawrencc · Post by **lawrencc** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:50 pm

I recently updated Gnome 2.12 through Portage, and, so far, everything seems to work except the applets.

When I try to log in or add a window list applet, I get the following error:

"The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WindowListApplet".

It's odd because it seems to be only the workspace switcher, window list, and window selector that fail.

Here's a screenshot:
http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~lawrencc/Screenshot-1.png

Thanks in advance!

drjimmy42 · Post by **drjimmy42** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:04 pm

Did you try the ever popular delete-all-your-.g*-directories. Also, make sure after you log out that all g* processes are dead so that they can restart with the latest versions and aren't running old ones.

lawrencc · Post by **lawrencc** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:16 pm

drjimmy42 wrote:Did you try the ever popular delete-all-your-.g*-directories. Also, make sure after you log out that all g* processes are dead so that they can restart with the latest versions and aren't running old ones.

It fails even when I log in as root. I tried deleting my .g* directories and restarted the computer.

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