E17 is coming?? (Part 2)

[ppurka]

I can confirm a similiar experience, same happens here so not using custom mouse cursors for now

I think I got a solution to this. I had to replace the file default_pointer.edc in the theme with the file of the same name in the default theme. These are the steps I followed:

Decompile the theme:

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edje_decc <theme>.edj

Replace the file default_pointer.edc

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cd <theme>
cp /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/e17/apps/e/data/themes/default_pointer.edc .

Optional Step:
Change the pointer size, _if required_. This can be done manually. I will show the diff below:

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$ diff ./default_pointer.edc /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/e17/apps/e/data/themes/default_pointer.edc 
8,9d7
<       min: 22 26;
<       max: 22 26;
17,18d14
<            min: 22 26;
<            max: 22 26;
96,97d91
<       min: 22 26;
<       max: 22 26;
105,106d98
<       min: 22 26;
<       max: 22 26;

Alternatively, you can download the modified file from here (rename it to default_pointer.edc). These sizes "22 26" have been taken from the blue-eyed/Milky's theme. It can be changed to smaller or bigger dimensions to get a different sized mouse pointer.

Recompile the theme and copy it to theme directory

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./build.sh
cp <theme>.edj $HOME/.e/e/themes/

Change to the newly compiled theme

HTH.

[zbindere]

Thanks ppurka, it works, even transpartenly.

But I have still some question which I did not find.

1. How can I configure engage that it stays always on top. Because right now when I start firefox or another app it
masks engage. I would like to change that behaviour.

2. I have seen on your link what the ? means. I have created some icons which I can see on engage, but
when I launch it, I get a ?
Here is the screenshot of the ? and here the definitions
of an icon. Could this also be a bug of engage?

[vrln]

Thanks ppurka, it works, even transpartenly.

But I have still some question which I did not find.

1. How can I configure engage that it stays always on top. Because right now when I start firefox or another app it
masks engage. I would like to change that behaviour.

That's currently impossible, assuming you are talking about the module version that is (and the other version only does fake trans and doesn't work correctly in E17). That would require composite support, which E17 does not support right now due to various reasons. Perhaps in E18 though.

[zbindere]

Can I configure engage that it stays always on top when it is not trasparent?

[gimpel]

Can I configure engage that it stays always on top when it is not trasparent?

modules cannot stay on top as they are rendered on the root window. and configuration menu for theming/transparency is in work currently

and the non-transparent standalone version would have BIG black background and look like shit in e17 without fake trans

[zbindere]

so then your apps are never in fullscreen, are they?

[gimpel]

so then your apps are never in fullscreen, are they?

mine never are in fullscreen. but with alt+strg+ left/right/up/down you can easily switch desktops

[ppurka]

2. I have seen on your link what the ? means. I have created some icons which I can see on engage, but
when I launch it, I get a ?
Here is the screenshot of the ? and here the definitions
of an icon. Could this also be a bug of engage?

The most important parts that you should provide when creating an eap are "app name", "Executable", and "Window-Class". The rest may be filled or may be left vacant, it doesn't matter.

Whenever you open an application, click on the top most left corner (where your icon usually appears) or press CNTRL + ALT+ W to get the window border menu. There you navigate to the last option "Edit Icon". You will notice that the "Window Class" is already filled there. Just edit the other fields and save it. You can do an enlightenment_remote -restart to see the change immediately.


BTW the new eap editor is fantastic.

[JoeG]

The current url for it is http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show. ... tent=28051 - it's indeed a very nice theme. Using it right now

How did you get this working? All I get is a collection of png's in a tarball. Do I need to compile all this?

[Cinder6]

Un-tar it in /usr/share/themes, then use a gtk theme switcher.

[Kysen]

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/ecore-9999 failed.
!!! Function enlightenment_die, Line 94, Exitcode 0

Anyone have any idea why this is failing?

[gimpel]

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/ecore-9999 failed.
!!! Function enlightenment_die, Line 94, Exitcode 0

Anyone have any idea why this is failing?

if you could post the actual error...

that's just the einfo that the ebuild failed to emerge, not the compile error

[Kysen]

if you could post the actual error...

that's just the einfo that the ebuild failed to emerge, not the compile error

opps sorry about that

grep: /usr/lib/libidn.la: No such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libidn.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libidn.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [libecore_con.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_con'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore'
make: *** [all] Error 2



Thanks that fixed it
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[gimpel]

if you could post the actual error...

that's just the einfo that the ebuild failed to emerge, not the compile error

opps sorry about that

grep: /usr/lib/libidn.la: No such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libidn.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libidn.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [libecore_con.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_con'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ecore-9999/work/e17/libs/ecore'
make: *** [all] Error 2

humm, i have that file, but no idea why and for what i have it. but just 'emerge libidn' and ecore shouldn't complain anymore

[tr4nce]

Is there any way to "not to use" the mouse theme of e17?
I mean, I like Jimmac's cursor set, and e17 uses an ugly mouse scheme that override my default set. Only when i am on gtk-gui applications, I see Jimmac's Cursor set, but when i go to ibar (for example) i get default e scheme.

[zbindere]

The most important parts that you should provide when creating an eap are "app name", "Executable", and "Window-Class". The rest may be filled or may be left vacant, it doesn't matter.

Whenever you open an application, click on the top most left corner (where your icon usually appears) or press CNTRL + ALT+ W to get the window border menu. There you navigate to the last option "Edit Icon". You will notice that the "Window Class" is already filled there. Just edit the other fields and save it. You can do an enlightenment_remote -restart to see the change immediately

My acrobat.eap file looks like this and I can see the icon in engage here.
But when I lauch the acrobat reader I have NO icon in the uper left corner, see here.
When I want to edit the Icon I see NO window class.

I think enlighenment does not "regognize" the application when I can say so.

[vrln]

The most important parts that you should provide when creating an eap are "app name", "Executable", and "Window-Class". The rest may be filled or may be left vacant, it doesn't matter.

Whenever you open an application, click on the top most left corner (where your icon usually appears) or press CNTRL + ALT+ W to get the window border menu. There you navigate to the last option "Edit Icon". You will notice that the "Window Class" is already filled there. Just edit the other fields and save it. You can do an enlightenment_remote -restart to see the change immediately

My acrobat.eap file looks like this and I can see the icon in engage here.
But when I lauch the acrobat reader I have NO icon in the uper left corner, see here.
When I want to edit the Icon I see NO window class.

I think enlighenment does not "regognize" the application when I can say so.

If Enlightenment doesn't recognize the application when it starts (ie, there is no icon the the top-left corner of the window), its window class is wrong. As for the window class not being autodetected, looks like this is a "feature" of the new rewritten EAP editor that was added to CVS a few days ago.

[zbindere]

If Enlightenment doesn't recognize the application when it starts (ie, there is no icon the the top-left corner of the window), its window class is wrong. As for the window class not being autodetected, looks like this is a "feature" of the new rewritten EAP editor that was added to CVS a few days ago.

Just to be courious. I am free for the windowclass to define what I want, can't I? Otherwise how can a windowclass be wrong?

[ashtophet]

Is there any way to "not to use" the mouse theme of e17?
I mean, I like Jimmac's cursor set, and e17 uses an ugly mouse scheme that override my default set. Only when i am on gtk-gui applications, I see Jimmac's Cursor set, but when i go to ibar (for example) i get default e scheme.

I also don't like so much the default e17 cursor (as you know cursor themeing support is in CVS, and e17 themes can use it and don't make use of default e17) so I:

- Replace apps/e/data/images/pointer.png and apps/e/data/themes/images/pointer.png.


Note that i don't use portage to get e17.

Maybe there's a better way to do it, but this one works here.

cheers

Edit. Also, of course, you can create your own e17 theme with another pointer.

[connor_a]

From the source: http://www.get-e.org/

Blue Eyed: This is a new minimalistic, original, lightweight and above all stylish theme for E17.

Anyone... where can I find those slick .eap icons that are shown in the Blue Eyed preview ???

I've checked below... to no avail!
http://www.get-e.org/Themes/Eap-Files/index.html

Thanks.

[ppurka]

If Enlightenment doesn't recognize the application when it starts (ie, there is no icon the the top-left corner of the window), its window class is wrong. As for the window class not being autodetected, looks like this is a "feature" of the new rewritten EAP editor that was added to CVS a few days ago.

Just to be courious. I am free for the windowclass to define what I want, can't I? Otherwise how can a windowclass be wrong?

NO you can't. AFAIK, windowclass is set by the application you use. You can determine the window class of an application (if it is not shown in eap editor), by

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xprop | grep WM_CLASS

and then click on your target application, and then take the ( second ? ) value written within the quotes.

EDIT: I think you should take the second value. For example for acroread, I get

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xprop | grep WM_CLASS
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "acroread", "Acroread"

so I will pick up Acroread as my Window Class.
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[jxn]

Not to change the subject again, but now that I have my gtk2 theme and default e17 theme, anybody know of a firefox theme that works well with these? I'm currently using saferfox, which is decent, but I'm not quite 100% happy yet.

[Cinder6]

I actually think acid burn, or whatever it's called, is a good one (not on that comp atm).

[vrln]

Not to change the subject again, but now that I have my gtk2 theme and default e17 theme, anybody know of a firefox theme that works well with these? I'm currently using saferfox, which is decent, but I'm not quite 100% happy yet.

Use the default Firefox theme and the E17-GTK theme will be used in it. Looks pretty good.

[zbindere]

NO you can't. AFAIK, windowclass is set by the application you use. You can determine the window class of an application (if it is not shown in eap editor), by
Code:
xprop | grep WM_CLASS
and then click on your target application, and then take the ( second ? ) value written within the quotes.

EDIT: I think you should take the second value. For example for acroread, I get
Code:
xprop | grep WM_CLASS
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "acroread", "Acroread"
so I will pick up Acroread as my Window Class.

Thanks that worked. I think this trick is not in the manual, is it?

Maybe a silly question:
How do you load files with eclair. If I use the right Mouse button and select add files nothing happens.