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je_fro
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Firefox question marks. Missing fonts?

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Post by je_fro » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:18 am

Hi folks...anybody seen black question marks instead of apostrophes in firefox...
Looks like this:

http://jeffrey.homelinux.org/fireQUestionMark.jpg

Any idea what I'm missing?
Thanks,
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Post by apmurray » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:04 pm

yeah I get the same thing... annoying..
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Post by Xaake » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:19 pm

Try changing the coding of the page, have no idea where exactly to look as I am on a different computer with a different language than yours. But it could be under something like "->Show->Coding" Try with UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1 it usually works. (I had the same problem, don't know why it suddenly started working, but it did, the problem is that I had to change the coding everytime I restarted Firefox, wich was annoying)
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Post by riven » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:50 pm

Yeah its the page encoding. It's only started for me since i converted my system to utf-8. I think it happens when the browser views a page that is written in a different encoding that uses slightly different characters fo different values, or something like that.
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Post by chronophobic » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:43 pm

Have the same problem every now and then, I have happily ignored it ever since I first saw it.
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Post by Sangeki » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:02 pm

I'm having the same problem.


System is ~x86 & UTF-8.

Regardless what charset I set in the preferences of Firefox the result is about the same.

Click Me

Work's perfectly under Mozilla, problem is I don't use Mozilla...
I also tried re-emerge-ing firefox... to no avail obviously.

Oh yeah, it just started recently.... so maybe some update in ~x86 broke it.
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Re: Firefox question marks. Missing fonts?

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Post by volkmar » Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:06 am

je_fro wrote:Hi folks...anybody seen black question marks instead of apostrophes in firefox...
Looks like this:

http://jeffrey.homelinux.org/fireQUestionMark.jpg

Any idea what I'm missing?
Thanks,
je_fro
There are many more of those awfully served pages out on the web. In most cases they're violating against the basic rules of serving content.
http://www.w3.org/International/O-HTTP-charset

You may contact the site's admin and tell him to send HTTP request headers with the correct charset information.
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Post by griblik » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:16 pm

I see this a lot with client-controlled web-based content management systems (apologies for the buzzword-fest ;)). It's usually caused by someone copy-and-paste'ing the article from MS Word into an IE form field. It seems that Windows carries the Word version of double quotes into the field when it's pasted instead of using a standard character.

I guess the anwser is to check the form upload for dodgy characters when it gets to the server. Personally, I advise people not to copy and paste from Word into web forms, but to paste the content into notepad or similar first to clean it up.

Either way, it's not your problem; it's simply that the website has non-standard characters in their content which your browser can't display. I don't think there's anything you can do about it.
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Post by volkmar » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:11 pm

griblik wrote:I see this a lot with client-controlled web-based content management systems (apologies for the buzzword-fest ;)). It's usually caused by someone copy-and-paste'ing the article from MS Word into an IE form field. It seems that Windows carries the Word version of double quotes into the field when it's pasted instead of using a standard character.
I don't think so. Bet it's the typical case of webmaster having configured webserver to not include charset info into HTTP response header.
Set your browser's accept header to utf-8 and check the Gentoo German forum to see what I mean.
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