tips for fluxbox [Part 1]

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zanzer7 · Post by **zanzer7** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:18 am

Thanks for the menu tip, never thought of that

As for the feh issue... have you tried unmerging and re-emerging?

hicsuget · Post by **hicsuget** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:48 pm

I figured out the feh problem--my user didn't have permissions for ~/.fehbg and ~/.fehrc.

Wart · Post by **Wart** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:10 pm

Is there a way for a user to shutdown or reboot the system without having root? Like a script for flux? I setup flux on my girls computer, but she has to boot into windows to run certain software for class.. I cant figure out how to put a menu item for her to do that :-/ Any help?

dswissmiss · Post by **dswissmiss** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:16 pm

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Let_a_comm ... own/reboot

93nt00r0ck5 · Post by **93nt00r0ck5** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:01 pm

Is there a patch for fluxbox-0.9.13-r1 that will allow me to resize windows from all corners, not just the lower right? It drives me nuts that I have to move a window up and resize it down. Currently I'm using openbox because it's too much of a pain to resize my windows.

Thanks for any help/sugguestions.

ericcartman · Post by **ericcartman** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:54 pm

Don't know if theres a way to resize window from any direction, but i use a different way for resiting:

Just hold
Alt+Left mouse button to move the window around;
Alt+Right mouse button to resize

also resizes the lower right corner but shouldn't be that painful to give it the size+position you want!

greetz ericcartman

93nt00r0ck5 · Post by **93nt00r0ck5** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:36 am

ericcartman wrote:Just hold
Alt+Left mouse button to move the window around;
Alt+Right mouse button to resize

also resizes the lower right corner but shouldn't be that painful to give it the size+position you want!

I was aware of that technique, but that was exactly what I was trying to avoid. I'm currenly researching which WM would work best (easiest and fastest) for 50+ employees, and it would be a *pain* for them. Even Blackbox allows you to resize from all corners. I guess I'll have to avoid Fluxbox for now, but I'm going to miss the eye-candy (transparent menus are so cool).

Thanks for the reply. I'll keep searching & hoping. Where there is a will (and a patch), there is a way.

93n700r0ck5!

Coltie · Post by **Coltie** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:28 pm

Hi!

Does anyone know a "clean" way to shutdown th e computer from within fluxbox with something like [exec] exit && shutdown ?? Anything I tried till now freeze the screen until the power off... So this doesn't look really clean at my eyes!

smithj · Post by **smithj** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:48 pm

if you emerge gdm and use it to control logins, you can just click exit in flux, then shutdown from gdm

Coltie · Post by **Coltie** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:12 pm

thank's for the tip, but I don't use GDM, I prefer this way : http://fr.gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_D%C3%A9ma ... atiquement
Sorry, this is in french....

And my original idea was to halt the computer with something like mod1+Shift+q or something similar... (through the fluxbox menu for example...) And I feel that doing only a halt, in terminal within fluxbox is not that good. so what does gdm? Just a "halt"?

stahlsau · Post by **stahlsau** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:56 am

why should doing a plain "halt" do any harm? I do it like that for years now. Just enter "halt" into a term and fluxbox closes and the box goes down. There's no problem with that.

Coltie · Post by **Coltie** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:36 am

Ok thank's! I trust your experience. Actually, It's only this screen which stuck on the desktop til the "power off"; may be it will change when I'll enable the framebuffer.

Instead of a "halt" in a terminal, I prefer somethng with the keys like Control + Mod1 + Shift + Escape

Thank's again.

stahlsau · Post by **stahlsau** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:10 am

hi,
i've enabled the framebuffer, too. If i do "halt", fluxbox quits and immediatly the framebuffer/bootsplash shows up.
It should make no difference if you call halt from a console or from a hotkey..just take a look at your ~.fluxbox/keys file, it's self-explanatory...explaining...you know what i mean

Coltie · Post by **Coltie** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:40 pm

Already done! There is nothing quicker than the key bindings to work with a laptop!

BlinkEye · Post by **BlinkEye** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:03 am

i have two questions, one has been asked some time ago but was never answered:

Sujao wrote:Is there a way to configure fluxbox so that I can resize windows not only in the bottom-right corner. If I ALT+right-click a window I can only move the bottom-right corner. In KDE it depends on where my mouse is, when I click it.

second one: how do i set up workspace specific settings? eg. i want on workspace one an eterm but no toolbar, but on every other workspace i want the toolbar etc.

Reikinio · Post by **Reikinio** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:30 am

Just to share a little tip that most of you probably already know.

How to have both a normal transparent aterm, and a completely transparent aterm(borderless) as well.
The little trick is the -name option, here is an example:

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exec aterm -name atermtr01 -e top

Then edit ~.Xdefault properly
Now if you're like me and like to have each workspace with its own set of cli commands running in different aterms, you have to edit ~/.fluxbox/apps file, and use for each different aterm the proper window name, in the exaple i posted that would be 'atermtr01'. Also i like to call them at fluxbox startup so i have a ~/bin/ dir with simple bash scripts, to show you an example:

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[startup]      {/home/reikinio/bin/fluxi_1}
[startup]      {/home/reikinio/bin/fluxi_2}
[startup]      {/home/reikinio/bin/fluxi_3}
[app] (atermtr04)
  [Workspace]   {0}
  [Dimensions]  {526 230}
  [Position]    (UPPERLEFT)     {0 518}
  [Deco]        {0x1e0}
  [Sticky]      {no}
[end]
[app] (atermtr03)
  [Workspace]   {2}
  [Dimensions]  {244 182}
  [Position]    (UPPERLEFT)     {106 314}
  [Deco]        {0x5ff}
  [Sticky]      {no}
[end]
[app] (aterm02)
  [Workspace]   {2}
  [Dimensions]  {388 278}
  [Position]    (UPPERLEFT)     {378 314}
  [Sticky]      {no}
[end]
.... # it is bigger than this, but for the sake of simplicity i wont post it :)

And here you have an example of ~/bin/fluxi_*

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#!/bin/bash
exec aterm -name atermtr05 -title pripr0n -e irssi

Enjoy !

Ps: Side effect: "If you have a lot of aterms started at fluxbox startup then your .Xdefaults will get fat and ugly"

amboss · Post by **amboss** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:08 am

One quick question:

I load torsmo at startup, using the ~/.fluxbox/startup. The problem is, that this always spawns 2 torsmo processes, which clutter up the display as they are not in sync. Now I've tried :

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torsmo &

and

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torsmo -d

as well as putting

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background yes

in ~/.torsmorc, but all of these result in two processes being spawned.
If I only put

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torsmo

in ~/.fluxbox/startup and

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background no

in .torsmorc, fluxbox wont finish loading.

So any Ideas how to auto start torsmo with only 1 process?

Thanks

bakreule · Post by **bakreule** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:49 pm

heres a screenshot:
http://www.sover.net/~ljohnstn/flux_august_clean.png

Hey killfire, you still have this background? Any chance of a link?

MeatHead · Post by **MeatHead** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:10 am

bakreule wrote:Hey killfire, you still have this background? Any chance of a link?

Direct linking doesn't seem to work but if you follow this link and do a search for 'relapse' you'll find what you're looking for.
http://browse.deviantart.com/

Gentree · Post by **Gentree** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:37 pm

well this is all facinating stuff but how the flux do you start X with fluxbox?

I currently run xfce4 and start it from console with startxfce4 , if I just run fluxbox it says there's no X server and if I do startx if fails anyway.

man fluxbox says to put it in ~/.xinitrc but that presuposes some way to startx that I dont seem to have.

somone tell the obvious please ....

gentoolee · Post by **gentoolee** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:06 pm

Gentree wrote:well this is all facinating stuff but how the flux do you start X with fluxbox?

I currently run xfce4 and start it from console with startxfce4 , if I just run fluxbox it says there's no X server and if I do startx if fails anyway.

man fluxbox says to put it in ~/.xinitrc but that presuposes some way to startx that I dont seem to have.

somone tell the obvious please ....

add this in your .xinitrc file : exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox

yabbadabbadont · Post by **yabbadabbadont** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:16 pm

Edit /etc/rc.conf like so:

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# XSESSION is a new variable to control what window manager to start
# default with X if run with xdm, startx or xinit.  The default behavior
# is to look in /etc/X11/Sessions/ and run the script in matching the
# value that XSESSION is set to.  The support scripts are smart enough to
# look in all bin directories if it cant find a match in /etc/X11/Sessions/,
# so setting it to "enlightenment" can also work.  This is basically used
# as a way for the system admin to configure a default system wide WM,
# allthough it will work if the user export XSESSION in his .bash_profile, etc.
#
# NOTE:  1) this behaviour is overridden when a ~/.xinitrc exists, and startx
#           is called.
#        2) even if ~/.xsession exists, if XSESSION can be resolved, it will
#           be executed rather than ~/.xsession, else KDM breaks ...
#
# Defaults depending on what you install currently include:
#
# Gnome - will start gnome-session
# kde-<version> - will start startkde (ex: kde-3.0.2)
# Xsession - will start a terminal and a few other nice apps

XSESSION="fluxbox"

then startx should launch fluxbox for you.

Gentree · Post by **Gentree** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:35 pm

XSESSION="fluxbox"

already tried that , it did not work.

add this in your .xinitrc file : exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox

That did , thanks.

Tried google, found the wiki , got me flying.

Got a bunch of themes , set my BG, configed a few things: looks very nice . I can see I'll get to like fluxbox.

The main thing that seems to lack is that despite tonnes of themes they only seem to customise the title and buttons. The scollbars and arrows look very clunky and circa win 3.1.

I've just come back to xfce4 to post this and it is so much nicer to work on just because of the soft rounded corners on the frames and decent sculpted scollbars.

The neolithic scroll bar on flux just looks so out of place once the rest is themed that it becomes an eye-sore.

I am hoping I just missed some thing again.

Regards.

feminista · Post by **feminista** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:17 am

Scrollbars are set by the application, not the window manager. Most likely what you're looking at is the default gtk theme, which is really ugly and old-windows looking. Just get a gtk theme changer (gtk-chtheme works well), and set it to something nicer. It's not a fluxbox problem (although I'm not sure why they would have looked nice in XFCE. XFCE might match the gtk theme to your WM theme, I suppose).

By the way, great topic. I've been using Flux for over a year, written my own themes, used keyboard shortcuts extensively, and I'm still learning things from this topic. Autogrouping is awesome and a half. Reminds me of my dear old mac.

Gentree · Post by **Gentree** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:09 am

hmm, looks like you were right about xfce syncing the gtk-theme , it was so seamless I did not realise it was two different themes controlling different parts of the window behaviour.

I ran gtk-chtheme and was able to select xfce from the list.

This worked to the extent that xterm no longer has a scroll - great improvement over what I had - hwvr aterm now has a grey strip in place of the scollbar .

Opera's scolls, as you say, are controlled by opera's themes and have not changed, they look good.

Seems like the themer has broken things more than fixed them even if I'm glad to get rid of the poxy scollbars I had.

Looks like I need to dig a bit deeper.

tips for fluxbox [Part 1]

Resize from all corners patch?

halt the computer from fluxbox

Torsmo at startup