Xorg 6.8.2 released

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raylpc · Post by **raylpc** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:49 pm

http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/

I just installed 6.8.1.904, and 6.8.2 was released right after the compilation...

But anyways, it's good to have a new bug fix version. And it also said it has a new radeon driver, but I can't find a changlog unless I download the whole tarball. Can someone post the changlog here?

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:59 pm

http://x.org/X11R6.8/doc/RELNOTES2.html#2

Lokheed · Post by **Lokheed** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:57 am

These look just loverly:

[#] Render acceleration for ATI's R100 and R200-series cards
[#] Substantial speedups in the software implementation of the render extensions when compiled with gcc 3.4 on the i386 architecture.

truekaiser · Post by **truekaiser** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:02 am

so does this mean i can stop useing the non updated kernel radeon drivers?

zerojay · Post by **zerojay** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:05 am

I believe Mach64 DRI is finally in now as well.

Lokheed · Post by **Lokheed** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:05 am

truekaiser wrote:so does this mean i can stop useing the non updated kernel radeon drivers?

Only if you have a Radeon 9600 or under I think, or are the 9600 even supported. I think the 9600 and above arent supported. Check the kernel docs to verify. I dont think they added support for more cards, just tweaked the ones already supported, could be wrong though, havent researched it yet.

truekaiser · Post by **truekaiser** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:11 am

Lokheed wrote:
truekaiser wrote:so does this mean i can stop useing the non updated kernel radeon drivers?
Only if you have a Radeon 9600 or under I think, or are the 9600 even supported. I think the 9600 and above arent supported. Check the kernel docs to verify. I dont think they added support for more cards, just tweaked the ones already supported, could be wrong though, havent researched it yet.

the r200 is the card i am useing aka the m7 radeon 7500. currently shadows work fine as long as they are not the hard edge ones. though after a while of use the xserver does crash. transparencey heh glacers move faster then this thing.

Lokheed · Post by **Lokheed** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:17 am

truekaiser wrote:
Lokheed wrote:
truekaiser wrote:so does this mean i can stop useing the non updated kernel radeon drivers?
Only if you have a Radeon 9600 or under I think, or are the 9600 even supported. I think the 9600 and above arent supported. Check the kernel docs to verify. I dont think they added support for more cards, just tweaked the ones already supported, could be wrong though, havent researched it yet.
the r200 is the card i am useing aka the m7 radeon 7500. currently shadows work fine as long as they are not the hard edge ones. though after a while of use the xserver does crash. transparencey heh glacers move faster then this thing.

I guess the only way to see is by diving in

I never liked the official ATI drivers much myself

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:23 am

The M7 is R100 ("radeon" driver) in X jargon; the chips driven by "ati" are R200+.

zerojay · Post by **zerojay** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:30 am

Lokheed wrote:
truekaiser wrote:so does this mean i can stop useing the non updated kernel radeon drivers?
Only if you have a Radeon 9600 or under I think, or are the 9600 even supported. I think the 9600 and above arent supported. Check the kernel docs to verify. I dont think they added support for more cards, just tweaked the ones already supported, could be wrong though, havent researched it yet.

Anything above the 9200 is unsupported, I believe.

truekaiser · Post by **truekaiser** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:52 am

Hypnos wrote:The M7 is R100 ("radeon" driver) in X jargon; the chips driven by "ati" are R200+.

actualy it's a r200
http://rsgibson.com/radeon.htm

rv200 / M7

* Radeon 7500 (DDR)
* FireGL 7800 (Mobile)

The 7500 has a tweaked core, more RAM and higher clock speeds (possible due to a manufacturing process shrink).

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:55 am

truekaiser,

Read this:

http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon

darkgamorck · Post by **darkgamorck** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:58 am

I have an ATI Radeon Mobility M6 - the list linked above identifies it as an RV100 chipset card. I suppose this means that the render acceleration on R100 chips won't apply to me. Still one can hope...

raylpc · Post by **raylpc** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:06 am

how do I use the Xorg's radeon driver instead of the one that under the dri section in the kernel?

I have a mobility 9000, and I want to use xcomposite with hardware acceleration. Currently, the radeon driver from the kernel disables the hardware acceleration once the composite extension is enabled. Thus the translucent and shadow effects are super slow.

truekaiser · Post by **truekaiser** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:12 am

Hypnos wrote:truekaiser,

Read this:

http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon

ah i didn't notice that v...

darkgamorck · Post by **darkgamorck** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:53 am

Anybody hacked an ebuild together for this yet? I tried modding the 6.8.1.904 ebuild but I couldn't get the patching to work properly...

zerojay · Post by **zerojay** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:56 am

With a package as complex as Xorg, you'd be much better off just waiting for the official ebuild.

hiroki · Post by **hiroki** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:10 am

the ebuild is already out...

http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?xorg-x11-6.8.2

DrWoland · Post by **DrWoland** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:22 am

Is there nothing in there for a non-ATI user? Should I just stick to 6.8.0 till something better comes out?

Edit: Namely, have they fixed teh whole thing where GLX doesn't work with the composite manager?

gentoo_lan · Post by **gentoo_lan** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:24 am

I am compiling now. So we will see how it goes. I would look at the changelogs for any changes or improvements in the newer versions.

Imago · Post by **Imago** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:34 am

raylpc wrote:how do I use the Xorg's radeon driver instead of the one that under the dri section in the kernel?

I have a mobility 9000, and I want to use xcomposite with hardware acceleration. Currently, the radeon driver from the kernel disables the hardware acceleration once the composite extension is enabled. Thus the translucent and shadow effects are super slow.

There are no xorg drivers in the kernel.
They kernel only provides the DRM(Direct Rendering Manager) driver,
which gives direct hardware access to the dri clients.
The xorg driver is the one you specify in your xorg.conf.
IIRC some 3D drivers explicitely disabled dri if you use the composite extension, because they simply doesnt work with it.
Dont know if this changed with this release.

CU
Imago

f1n4rf1n · Post by **f1n4rf1n** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:37 am

Does somebody know about new features or improvements in this version?

Hypnos · Post by **Hypnos** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:53 am

f1n4rf1n wrote:Does somebody know about new features or improvements in this version?

Read the second post in this thread.

hiroki · Post by **hiroki** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:04 am

gentoo_lan wrote:I am compiling now. So we will see how it goes. I would look at the changelogs for any changes or improvements in the newer versions.

i'm compiling, too.
i guess it will finish in about 10 minutes.
then i'll see, whether they can keep the promise, that compiling it with gcc-3.4 [i use 3.4.3.20050110] makes it faster! (or not)

gentoo_lan · Post by **gentoo_lan** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:21 am

I am using the same compiler. I haven't done extensive testing but the compiler seems to be faster than 3.3.4 by leaps and bounds.