How to stop kde kicker from loading

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XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:47 am

I ended up getting KSmoothDock working and I would like to stop my kicker from loading up at startup. Anyone know where or how I would do this? Thanks.

Dolio · Post by **Dolio** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:04 am

If you do:

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killall kicker

And then exit KDE, and log back in, does kicker still start?

papal_authority · Post by **papal_authority** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:04 am

IIRC you'll want to remove the file panel.desktop from $KDEDIR/share/autostart/.

XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:18 am

Before I try to remove anything I just realized another problem:

I tried getting ksmoothdock working by making a shell script in ~/.kde/Autostart but for some reason, it fails to load. I can type any other program like kompose and it loads but for some reason ksmoothdock wont work. Any other ideas on how to get it autoloaded?

papal_authority · Post by **papal_authority** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:21 am

Did you use the full path to ksmoothdock?

XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:24 am

papal_authority wrote:Did you use the full path to ksmoothdock?

no, I just typed ksmoothdock, ill try the full path now.... also, maybe its because I have to fully restart my computer to reload kde? Just doing a K.... Logout, sending me back to the shell doesn't fully shutdown all kde processes. Is there a way to kill all kde processes so I dont have to fully restart my computer?

XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:30 am

Ok... I'm almost there. It turns out yes, I put the full path and it works... Now for the bad news. For some odd reason my start.sh file I put in autostart does not run automatically. I did do a chmod 754 on it and when I go to the console manually and type 'bash start.sh' it loads up everything properly. There should be no reason why it shouldnt load up automatically. Any help would be appreciated. Here is the contents of my start.sh file if it helps.

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#!/usr/bin/bash

/usr/bin/kompose
/usr/bin/ksmoothdock

papal_authority · Post by **papal_authority** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:32 am

If they're owned by you, you could try pkill -f kde. You'll probably want to chmod 0755 start.sh.

martoni · Post by **martoni** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:33 am

(if when you run "ksmoothdock", nothing happens, then it is likely that your KDE dir is not standard. In this case, either:
- cd to the directory ksmoothdock-3.5.1/ksmoothdock, then run "./ksmoothdock", or
- Re-do the above sequence (./configure ...), but instead of "./configure", type:
./configure --prefix=/YOUR_KDE_DIR
)

From kde-apps page ...

XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:42 am

damn it still doesn't work... one second its working another second it doesn't. I even tried making a whole new file and autostart doesnt do anything. Very odd, ill have to keep experimenting.

XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:48 am

now i determined that if i name it start as opposed to start.sh it loads up kwrite when i start kde.

XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:01 am

figured it out... changed #!/usr/bin/bash to #!/bin/bash and it worked.

XST1 · Post by **XST1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:20 am

new problem. Now that I got rid of the kicker, I cant use the "start applications" or K button on my ksmoothdock. Anything I can do?

Dolio · Post by **Dolio** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:19 am

Doesn't ksmoothdock have an option to hide the kicker while it's open? I thought that most things that 'replace' the kicker had an option to hide it for just these reasons.

Edit: I tried for myself, and ksmoothdock doesn't have this option. If you look at the screenshots on kde-look, you'll notice that the kicker is still there, but they hid it off to the side, so it's just a little button on the top left. Note that it's possible to make this button as small as 3 pixels wide, so you'll barely see it.

Alternatively, you could try moving your kicker to the top and using the menu widget to make yourself a Mac OS style menu-bar setup. I use a kicker panel this way myself, and I think it's quite enjoyable.

Finally, you could suggest to the ksmoothdock developer that he add an option to hide all kicker panels while ksmoothdock is open. I know I've seen karamba themes that do it (I want to say this one can do it, but I'm not totally sure), so it should be possible for ksmoothdock as well.

However, the kmenu is a component of kicker, I believe, so it's not accessible without kicker running currently (I just tried killing kicker and even kdesktop won't pop up a kmenu like I have it configured to do, so kicker is necessary).