Usenet Binary Clients

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Remenic · Post by **Remenic** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:29 pm

Hello there!

I am looking for some nice programs to download binaries from usenet with. So far I have found nzbget to be really good for downloading, but I have yet to find a decent program that will let me browse the groups and export such a nice nzb file.

The box I'm using is pretty low on RAM, and so I don't like it keep any of the GUI apps like pan running all the time, because they make this box unusable.

Are there any apps that will let me run a search on a group, and export an .nzb file for me? Or maybe people know another more elegant solution.

Some requirements it should meet are:
Downloader:

Lightweight
Support multiple download streams
Must be cli based

Search:

Export to nzb!
Maybe support XPAT as well
May be GUI

Hopefully I'm not demanding too much...

jurrie · Post by **jurrie** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:12 pm

it may not be lightweight as it's a KDE prog, but this evening i found klibido. It looks really nice to me, but I can't get it to work (maybe due to my x86_64 setup).

*edit* kind of a dumb mistake on my part. Seems klibido searches for Berkeley files in /usr/include and /usr/include/db4, and my Berkeley files were in /usr/include/db4.1

hope this helps someone else ^_~

mr.ed · Post by **mr.ed** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:44 pm

For a quick solution to emerging Klibido: just link your /usr/include/db4.* to /usr/src/db4.1 like this:

# ln -sf /usr/include/db4.2 /usr/include/db4.1

Just finished compiling the damn thing, now checking if it's worth the time!!!

[edit]

Thought i'ld look at the ebuilds for KLibido and guess what?? Just change the reference db4.1 to the version u have installed!! (In my case to db4.2) And then it compiles without a glitch... Don't forget to update the patch in /usr/portage/net-news/klibido/files (2 references to db4.1 there!)

jurrie · Post by **jurrie** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:04 pm

I've used Klibido now since the date I posted the reply here and I must say, it kicks ass ^_^ It eats very little memory compared to other graphical binary usenet downloaders I used thus far. The ui may be somewhat unusual, but it works pretty good once you get used to it.

The only downside is when I close the program and restart it, it will crash when I choose to resume the previous queue. But it's still only at 0.2.0, so it's bound to get better from here on.

zerojay · Post by **zerojay** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:38 pm

I'll agree with jurrie here, klibido is excellent. It would be even more awesome if it could have been integrated into KNode. Oh well.

cron0 · Post by **cron0** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:15 pm

Amazing! I've been looking for a replacement for NewsbinPro (windows) running under WINE!

klibido does nearly everything I need!

It would be nice to see better queue management and a customizable interface!

michaelarch · Post by **michaelarch** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:46 pm

Hello,
How is everyone getting klibido to work? recompilled db with --enable-cxx and compiled klibido with the patch to correct gentoo-db location, which compiles fine. WHen I open it, I try to update groups and takes less than a second and indicates it's finished, but no groups download. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide.

V/R<
Michael

dook43 · Post by **dook43** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:50 pm

I like pan...

GuidoJ · Post by **GuidoJ** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:48 pm

brag : extremely lightweight, just a script that you can run in a console
bnr2 : written in java, so not very lightweight, but it has some good features

justanothergentoofanatic · Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:10 pm

Actually, BNR2 is written in Pascal. It's also quite a bit less buggy than it used to be.

-Mike

BlackB1rd · Post by **BlackB1rd** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:36 pm

I'd like to recommend KLibido, which is masked in portage. It is not that feature rich, but it works (very) well for me. For example, Pan is eating all of my memory (over 800MB) when using large groups. KLibido on the other hand uses hardly 85MB! That's quite amazing, since that won't affect the condition of my system much and I'm able to do other things as well

I think it's worth trying out. And I just got it working by emerging the masked version, no other steps taken.

ewan.paton · Post by **ewan.paton** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:23 pm

i still think the best usenet client ive ever seen is newsrover on windows who i used to buy every update, i sent them an email asking if they had any plans to try and make a linux version or even a wine compatible one.

they sent me a letter back saying only 0.5% of web traffic to their site was linux browsers and they would need to rewrite the some stuff because the failed to understand what wine was, a real shame as a real filesystem would have made it a lot better as well.

incidentaly has anyone had probs with really big groups (500,000+ articles) causing pan to basicly skrew the whole system once it runs out of ram

troworld · Post by **troworld** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:00 am

ewan.paton wrote:incidentaly has anyone had probs with really big groups (500,000+ articles) causing pan to basicly skrew the whole system once it runs out of ram

Yes. Some explanation here. Short version: they're working on it, but right now it's screwy (runs out of mem, swaps the system into oblivion).

Chickpea · Post by **Chickpea** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:17 pm

Yes. Some explanation here. Short version: they're working on it, but right now it's screwy (runs out of mem, swaps the system into oblivion).

Thanks for this info! I have been feaking out for the past couple of weeks trying to figure out if it was just me. Pan has always worked like a charm but lately i have troubles with it eating memory and touching my swap. I thought it had something to do with comcast switching news server providers. Hmmm.

At least now I am not crazy

garris0n · Post by **garris0n** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:34 pm

ewan.paton wrote:incidentaly has anyone had probs with really big groups (500,000+ articles) causing pan to basicly skrew the whole system once it runs out of ram

I've been working around this by using nzbget with nzb files downloaded from the web:

dvdrs.net
nzbzone.com
bincrawler.com
binsearch.info

Incidentally, nget also has problems with very busy groups.

rounz · Post by **rounz** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:43 pm

amazing no one mentioned nget yet!

its the ultimate for binary groups, can be patched for nzb support also

garris0n · Post by **garris0n** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:26 am

rounz wrote:amazing no one mentioned nget yet!

its the ultimate for binary groups, can be patched for nzb support also

Does the nzb patch address the memory issue for groups with millions of posts (as mentioned earlier)?

mazirian · Post by **mazirian** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:32 pm

I don't know about the "millions of posts" issue, but I have to vote for nget as well. It's very powerful. It (1) will automatically download the bare minumum of recovery files necessary to repair missing or damaged files, (2) may be configured to assign different priorities and trustworthiness to different servers, so it will d/l from free servers first and resort to premium/slow/unreliable servers only if it must; (3) will search for, download, and automatically decode and assemble articles from several different servers and even groups until it gets a sufficient set of par files; (4) recovers gracefully from disconnects; (5) may be resumed if you didn't get enough pars the first time around and will avoid dupes; (6) will bring you fame and fortune, cook you dinner, and find your lost socks!

ewan.paton · Post by **ewan.paton** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:36 am

garris0n wrote:
rounz wrote:amazing no one mentioned nget yet!

its the ultimate for binary groups, can be patched for nzb support also
Does the nzb patch address the memory issue for groups with millions of posts (as mentioned earlier)?

the latest cvs version of pan has a substanialy lower memory usage and they are after bug testers to put out a release till the database backend is finished later this year.

elykyllek · Post by **elykyllek** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:12 am

I'm giving Klibido a try, but I can't seem to figure out how to make it download files that are less than 2 pieces. It tells me that the decode fails everytime. I would rather not have to switch between two clients, one for small files, one for large. Any ideas?

--------------------edit------------------------

Seems to be working now, I did change to use the built in decoder, I think that fixed it.

garris0n · Post by **garris0n** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:13 am

ewan.paton wrote:the latest cvs version of pan has a substanialy lower memory usage and they are after bug testers to put out a release till the database backend is finished later this year.

Wow. They're not kidding- there is a huge difference. I've only been using the CVS version for about five minutes and I already see vast improvement. Thanks for the tip!

outspoken · Post by **outspoken** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:16 am

i stopped using pan because it could not handle large groups and memory consumption was a bugger. how do i install the cvs version so it makes use of portage? or have you guys just been installing from source. if someone has an ebuild for a recent cvs please post it.

im going to try klibido in the meantime, nget is not my style and all the others kind of stink. bnr2 flat out does not work for me, it can't even log into giganews.

ewan.paton · Post by **ewan.paton** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:50 am

i recently had to download all the headers on a group with over 2 million of them and while there was an initial lag of 10-15 seconds when it 1st loaded after that i could resort and delete with no lag and it seems stable which is nice for a cvs.

running a cvs is compiling from source but the source is the code the developers are running at the moment so if you get so there could be bugs and probs not seen in a stable release. obviously you can use portage to emerge any dependences and progs needed

then

Code: Select all

export CVSROOT=":pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome" 

cvs -z3 checkout pan

cd pan/

sh ./autogen.sh 

make

the binary will then be in pan directory and you can copy it into your path {/usr/bin/} as say pancvs if you want to

outspoken · Post by **outspoken** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:57 am

ok, i take my previous post back. i don't care about pan's new cvs, klibido is way better than pan. the management structure is amazing. will have to keep testing it to see how it goes but so far it is loading with no problems and is very quick.

Chickpea · Post by **Chickpea** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:56 pm

outspoken wrote:ok, i take my previous post back. i don't care about pan's new cvs, klibido is way better than pan. the management structure is amazing. will have to keep testing it to see how it goes but so far it is loading with no problems and is very quick.

I have had trouble with kblibido. It sorta crashes on me with large groups. Trying the pan cvs version right now. So far memory footprint good.

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