Half-Life 2

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vonhelmet · Post by **vonhelmet** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:37 pm

BlackEdder wrote:Three pages I know about that had the story:
slashdot.org
planethalflife.com
csnation.net

I saw it on the Inquirer, who were citing shacknews as a source.

ardnut · Post by **ardnut** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:46 pm

zinion wrote:
LaNcom wrote:Negated Void,

the Steam.dll problem is easy to fix, like I said, I copyed the Steam/Steam.dll file to the bin/ directory. I think you may only have one version of Steam.dll installed, not one copy? The 'fix' on the forum you posted is based on a cracked copy of CSS, however, so you'd need a cracked hl2.exe, and it's unsure if this would work with a 'vanilla' HL2 copy...
I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND anybody to NEVER use cracked Files for Valve-Products. They just deactivated more than 20.000 Accounts of people who did. No matter if they legally own the game. If you use NOCD-Crack your Steam-Account will be gone with ALL games on it.

If your going to use a craked/hacked version of the single player game, I doubt you would be using your own account (apart from maybe using a nocd crack).

eean · Post by **eean** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:10 pm

zinion wrote:
LaNcom wrote:Negated Void,

the Steam.dll problem is easy to fix, like I said, I copyed the Steam/Steam.dll file to the bin/ directory. I think you may only have one version of Steam.dll installed, not one copy? The 'fix' on the forum you posted is based on a cracked copy of CSS, however, so you'd need a cracked hl2.exe, and it's unsure if this would work with a 'vanilla' HL2 copy...
I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND anybody to NEVER use cracked Files for Valve-Products. They just deactivated more than 20.000 Accounts of people who did. No matter if they legally own the game. If you use NOCD-Crack your Steam-Account will be gone with ALL games on it.

Ha, so folks who are dedicated pirates don't have much trouble then. It seems odd to have a nocd crack in the first place given that you don't need a cd if you install from Steam.

chunderbunny · Post by **chunderbunny** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:45 pm

If you buy the retail version you still have to have the disk to play, which is really annoying considering that even the retail version authenticates by connecting to Steam every time you play.

winglian · Post by **winglian** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:25 am

well, you could always just use your retail key and download it from steam, no need for the cd anymore.

LaNcom · Post by **LaNcom** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:34 am

Just thinking about it, any Transgaming Emerald members here?

IIRC, the TG press release stated that Emerald members would get a Cedega 4.2 preview build before it's release date, anyone got it? How's it doing performance-wise?
With the current workaround for 4.1 (adding the location of Steam.dll to PATH), it starts, but has quite a few strange graphic errors and is incredible slow...

Oh, BTW, vonhelmet:

Just accept that German laws obviously differ from US laws, and I neither know the relevant US laws nor would I have to comply - like, 'possession of stolen goods' is legal (unlike stealing or selling stolen stuff), and sourcecodes are not considered 'goods' in Germany...

deving · Post by **deving** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:42 am

It's called Windows... use it; it works, so there is no need to play it in Linux. Besides, games tend to run better in Windows anyway, be it because of the drivers or not -- it still operates at more frames per second in most cases (i.e. Doom 3, UT2004, and probably HL2 if you get it to work under Cedega).

Flame away.

vonhelmet · Post by **vonhelmet** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:06 am

deving wrote:It's called Windows... use it; it works, so there is no need to play it in Linux. Besides, games tend to run better in Windows anyway, be it because of the drivers or not -- it still operates at more frames per second in most cases (i.e. Doom 3, UT2004, and probably HL2 if you get it to work under Cedega).

Flame away.

Flame?

There's a lot of people who find that games run better in Linux. Go figure.

There's also some people who don't have Windows and don't want to pay good money for it. If you can play the games you want natively in Linux, or even in Wine if it comes to that, then why pay for Windows?

chunderbunny · Post by **chunderbunny** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:37 pm

winglian wrote:well, you could always just use your retail key and download it from steam, no need for the cd anymore.

I tried that, it doesn't work. Steam knows you have a retail version registered and asks you insert the disk even if you download it.

VladP12 · Post by **VladP12** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:00 am

Well the news is that Cedega will be coming out with Cedega 4.2 i think...with support for all steam games....HORAY....

What was that remark about using that peice of shit of a system whos users are just asking for viruses, and waste their precious money on, called Window$ ? I'd like to take the window$ and break them along with microsoft......I dont noe if anybody noticed......but alot of the people who run linux or Gentoo havent got a virus in ages....While Microsoft is like "Update to prevent viruses, Restart, Repeat" Whats up with that? Microsoft is a peice of shit that is held together by boogers....Whos with me on that?

DOWN WITH WINDOWS, UP WITH LINUX!!!!*repeats this line over and over again*

zinion · Post by **zinion** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:53 am

eean wrote:
zinion wrote:
LaNcom wrote:Negated Void,

the Steam.dll problem is easy to fix, like I said, I copyed the Steam/Steam.dll file to the bin/ directory. I think you may only have one version of Steam.dll installed, not one copy? The 'fix' on the forum you posted is based on a cracked copy of CSS, however, so you'd need a cracked hl2.exe, and it's unsure if this would work with a 'vanilla' HL2 copy...
I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND anybody to NEVER use cracked Files for Valve-Products. They just deactivated more than 20.000 Accounts of people who did. No matter if they legally own the game. If you use NOCD-Crack your Steam-Account will be gone with ALL games on it.
Ha, so folks who are dedicated pirates don't have much trouble then. It seems odd to have a nocd crack in the first place given that you don't need a cd if you install from Steam.

Yeah...but maybe I don't want to Download 4,5gig? So I can download the data and play without CD. And I have the data on CD. And I have my Key and my Account. So why the fuck I need the CD to play? I think this sux.

But anyway - it doesn't matter. Since I played the game yesterday the first time I'm sure this the the coolest, most burning, best, most cutting edge PC-Game available atm

vonhelmet · Post by **vonhelmet** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:09 am

I've never quite understood why it's such a hardship to have to put the CD in the drive to play the game.

zinion · Post by **zinion** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:26 am

Some situations:

Visiting a friend (maybe he lives 1hour away with car), taking my PC with, want to play, forgot CD

Going to a LAN-Party - same situation

And the third: Let's say I need the CD for all games I play. Going to a LAN-Party - have to carry all that expensive games with me. And there are several hundred people - maybe it gets stolen or anything else.

Ok these all are things _I _ have to care about. But it would be nice if the developers wouldn't do that to me. Especially if there is a version that IS playable without CD but I have to wait hours for the download...

vonhelmet wrote: BlackEdder hat folgendes geschrieben::
Three pages I know about that had the story:
slashdot.org
planethalflife.com
csnation.net

I saw it on the Inquirer, who were citing shacknews as a source.

I saw it on cstrike.de and there is an official Thread in the Steampowered Forum:

here

VladP12 · Post by **VladP12** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:26 pm

Any news on Half Life 2 port to Linux?

Or are they just not gonna do it and we will have to run it via cedega only?

float- · Post by **float-** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:43 pm

prolly won't happen because it's d3d, unless someone does some extraordinary hacking with the leaked source code ..but that would be illegal

VladP12 · Post by **VladP12** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:52 pm

How about doing some sort of a petition in maybe a month or so and try to get the source code developed to suit Linux, without putting our hands on the source code but letting Valve know how many people use linux....I think that it might actually move the next gen games to linux.

What do u think?

StinkingMonkey · Post by **StinkingMonkey** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:10 pm

before i say anymore i have to say that deving is talking crap :/, cs, et, q3 doom3 etc etc all run just as well on my gentoo as they do on my windows. Im an emerald user for whoever asked, dec 7 transgaming are expecting to release newer version of hl2, managed to play HL2 once with the preview of latest cedega which was handed out to emerald customers, then got wrong disk error, from the time i played it fps was 50-70, there were graphical glitches that they are aware of, and more people are reporting issues with dvd like the one i mentioned above.

siorai · Post by **siorai** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:35 pm

VladP12 wrote:How about doing some sort of a petition in maybe a month or so and try to get the source code developed to suit Linux, without putting our hands on the source code but letting Valve know how many people use linux....I think that it might actually move the next gen games to linux.

What do u think?

Well... Given that there was never a Halflife port to Linux, I think it's a pretty strong possibility that there will never be a Linux port of Halflife2.

The thing is that with Halflife2 being such an A-list game, Valve knows they don't really have to do a Linux port. People will buy the game no matter what. If need be, gamers will dual boot just to play Halflife2. Especially snice Cedega is about to fully support Halflife2 and all Steam games, there is absolutely no incentive for Valve to port anything. They'll make their money with things how they are now, so why put more money into making a port? Valve puts forth no extra effort, but still makes money off of the Linux gaming community. Seems like a no-brainer move on Valve's part really.

VladP12 · Post by **VladP12** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:47 pm

I see......

KrzychuG · Post by **KrzychuG** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:59 pm

I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND anybody to NEVER use cracked Files for Valve-Products. They just deactivated more than 20.000 Accounts of people who did. No matter if they legally own the game. If you use NOCD-Crack your Steam-Account will be gone with ALL games on it.

They closed all account which registred game for "cracked" key. Those 20k account used same key. You can use nocd crack without any problems.

miscz · Post by **miscz** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:55 pm

One month after the HL2 source was leaked there was some kind of pirated-alpha/beta released. There were some people in Poland selling these pirated versions on market-places which are the main source of illegal stuff here. I haven't seen one but I've heard these were kinda playable except they were lacking lots of things. This means that it might be possible to get this source to compile...

MdaG · Post by **MdaG** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:37 pm

Anyone know how HL2 will perform on a laptop with a pentium M 1400 Mhz, 768 Mb DDR, Nvidia Geforce 4 - 64 Mb, lots of free space (about 10 Gb) ???

Drk korrupted · Post by **Drk korrupted** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:03 am

miscz wrote:One month after the HL2 source was leaked there was some kind of pirated-alpha/beta released. There were some people in Poland selling these pirated versions on market-places which are the main source of illegal stuff here. I haven't seen one but I've heard these were kinda playable except they were lacking lots of things. This means that it might be possible to get this source to compile...

That source was corrupted, unfinished, and obviously illegal to own or use.

der bastler · Post by **der bastler** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:29 am

There are two things I don't understand:

1.) Steam
Obviously they are testing DRM, including end-user disfranchisement. Even if you only want to play off-line and you bought the game in a non-virtual shop on a real world media you have to register at least one time on a Steam server. And no, Steam is not a copy protection system, it's just a new distribution system.

Btw: EULAs are irrelevant in most European countries. Steam enforces the validity of Valve's EULA, thus infringing e.g. German copyright laws (by cutting customers' rights).

In the last years, the last decade, I saw several software studios rise and fall. A short-lived business, if you want. The producers might vanish, their games stay as long as the game's media survive. What's with HL2 if you want to install it just to re-play good ol' times and you can't find a authentification server due to the company's breakup?

Not to mention selling a steampowered game...

I still have a dual-boot system with a Win partition I rarely boot --mainly for a good game like GTA. Although I dislike Win I'd boot it for HL2. But with Steam I have to say "No!". I don't want to encourage Valve.

2.) WineX and native ports
Let's be serious: There will only be few native ports as long as WineX exists ("Why project platform independent games? Transgaming will do this for us!").

PZoned · Post by **PZoned** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:32 am

Why use Linux to play games instead of windows? well here are a few reasons

1. Rebooting is too much of a hassle.
2. When i boot up windows in get bombarded by shit
3. I get better performance in linux in Doom3 and UT2004
4. in Doom3 after about 10 minutes of playing my sound cuts out (not very fun)

Half-Life 2

use steam for retail

Re: use steam for retail