Xfce4 now has composite in WM

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loki99 · Post by **loki99** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:17 pm

codergeek42 wrote:the USE flag should be 'compositor'

thats what i did.

SKLP wrote:
loki99 wrote:
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Option "RENDER" "Enable"
AFAIK, that line should be unnecessary...

can anyone confirm that?

cheers, loki!

Gandalf the White · Post by **Gandalf the White** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:32 pm

@loki:

Confirmed, it is not needed but if you are using a 3d accelerated driver(i.e., nvidia or ati binary driver) then it speeds things up significantly for me.

zUgLiO · Post by **zUgLiO** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:33 pm

I used the ebuilds in portage, but there isn't a use flag called compositor, but the compiler options are the same:

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src_compile() {
        econf \
            --enable-randr \
            --enable-compositor || die
        emake || die
}

I've got Composite enable in xorg.conf but i can only see shadows but no transparencies

http://members.ferrara.linux.it/scrofina/xfce4.jpg

loki99 · Post by **loki99** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:32 pm

so, why do i not have shadows and stuff? can anyone explain? did i misss anything?

vrln · Post by **vrln** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:40 pm

zUgLiO wrote:I used the ebuilds in portage, but there isn't a use flag called compositor, but the compiler options are the same:
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src_compile() {
        econf \
            --enable-randr \
            --enable-compositor || die
        emake || die
}
I've got Composite enable in xorg.conf but i can only see shadows but no transparencies

http://members.ferrara.linux.it/scrofina/xfce4.jpg

There shouldn' t be any transparancies as far as I know. I don't have any, but compositioner is working and all. You can use transset to make the menu etc transparent.

zUgLiO · Post by **zUgLiO** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:13 pm

xfce.org wrote: xfwm4
* xfwm4 now has his own compositing manager (a manager for the new Xorg compositor extension, which brings true transparency to the Xfce desktop)

It seems a native transparency, not using transset..
i'm wrong?

oggialli · Post by **oggialli** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:18 pm

To my "ear" it rather seems like native compositor, not xcompmgr.

maskedbishounen · Post by **maskedbishounen** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:49 pm

Hurrah.

I've been tempting trying out a CVS build since XFLD, yet didn't really want to mess with it. Emerged the beta today and worked like pie. Well, kind of.

I had to re-emerge xfcalendar, xfce4-netload, and xfce4-systemload to get everything on my panel back in order. So for those wonder, yes, you can get your pretty monitors back. The issue I'm left with seems a bit odd, so if someone could confirm if it's just me or not, it would be muchly appreciated.

My panel no longer uses certain icon themes; rather, it seems to default back for all but certain ones. The only ones that currently work are HighContastLargePrint, HighContrastLargePrintInverse, and LowContrastLargePrint. Nautilus works fine with the changing icon theme, and they worked fine right before in 4.0.6, so I'm not entirely sure what's up.

Anyone else?

Edit: Oh, and does anyone know if you can set the window list in the task bar to stretch? I remember reading a post about that sometime last week, but can't remember the answer or where I found it.

Plastic · Post by **Plastic** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:26 am

OK, some clarification. A compositor (eg, xcompmgr or xfce4 built-in) draws shadows and transparency. transset only sets the transparency property. It is required for transparency in XFce4.

VoVaN · Post by **VoVaN** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:45 am

Personally I prefer xorg + xcompmgr instead of xfwm's compositor. With xcompmgr you're getting shadows for *everything*, include drop-down menus; I can't get the same effect with xfwm's compositor. See the picture bellow...

http://vovan.homelinux.org/files/xfwm4-cvs/tabwin.jpg

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:29 am

maskedbishounen wrote:My panel no longer uses certain icon themes; rather, it seems to default back for all but certain ones. The only ones that currently work are HighContastLargePrint, HighContrastLargePrintInverse, and LowContrastLargePrint. Nautilus works fine with the changing icon theme, and they worked fine right before in 4.0.6, so I'm not entirely sure what's up.

Anyone else?

Edit: Oh, and does anyone know if you can set the window list in the task bar to stretch? I remember reading a post about that sometime last week, but can't remember the answer or where I found it.

Yeah, only certain icon themes work, I think something was said on the mailing lists about this but can't really remember now. I'll have a look.
EDIT: Can't find anything at the moment.

And I'm assuming you mean where the taskbar buttons completely spanned the taskbar? This behaviour was completely removed quite a long time ago in CVS. I preferred the spanning too and did request it being optional, but nope. I'm used to it now, but I (and everyone I asked via screenshots..) preferred the old way. No huge loss, though.

Plastic · Post by **Plastic** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:01 pm

VoVaN wrote:Personally I prefer xorg + xcompmgr instead of xfwm's compositor. With xcompmgr you're getting shadows for *everything*, include drop-down menus; I can't get the same effect with xfwm's compositor. See the picture bellow...

http://vovan.homelinux.org/files/xfwm4-cvs/tabwin.jpg

I agree that it is nice to have menu shadows, but the shadows in XFce4 are better positioned, (that xcompmgr patch no longer works) and I have found xcompmgr to be less stable. All I had to do to crash the whole X server was to run glxgears and start playing around with it.

ksuther · Post by **ksuther** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:05 am

So what is the best way to try out the beta now? Should I just add all the packages to packages.unmask, unmerge the current xfce since there are a bunch of blockers, and remerge, or is there a cleaner/faster way of doing this?

Cagnulein · Post by **Cagnulein** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:55 am

when i try to emerge xfce4 i receive these errors

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[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfwm4-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfwm4-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xffm-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xffm-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfprint-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfprint-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xffm-icons (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.90)

/etc/portage/package.keywords is correct...any ideas?

Xk2c · Post by **Xk2c** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:07 pm

Cagnulein:
You should also put them in /etc/portage/package.unmask
since all Xfce 4.2 packages are hardmasked at the moment.

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:45 pm

Cagnulein wrote:when i try to emerge xfce4 i receive these errors

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[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-base-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfwm4-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfwm4-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xffm-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xffm-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfprint-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfprint-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] xfce-extra/xffm-icons (from pkg xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.1.90) 
[blocks B     ] <xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.90 (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.90)

/etc/portage/package.keywords is correct...any ideas?

The portage packages have all Xfce4 versions lower than 4.1.90 set as blockers. This shouldn't actually be needed from what I gather, as problems were only caused by trying to compile Xfce while having older versions of the required libraries for a package installed as well at different locations, whereas portage automatically removes traces of the old libraries. But anyway, solve it by unmerging the Xfce4 packages currently installed. From that output,

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emerge unmerge -a libxfce4util libxfce4mcs libxfcegui4 xfce-mcs-manager xfce4-iconbox xfce4-systray xfce4-panel xfce-utils xfce4-base xfce4-trigger-launcher xfwm4-themes xfwm4 xffm xfcalendar xfdesktop xfce-mcs-plugins xfce4-toys xfprint xffm-icons xfce4

should work.
And yes, you probably need to add it to /etc/portage/package.unmask too.

Cagnulein · Post by **Cagnulein** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:35 pm

thanks

it works

dkure · Post by **dkure** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:50 pm

I just saw this thread after I have just installed the cvs version of xfce

everything works great, apart from 1 thing, my right click doesnt work on the desktop. My middle click works great, but my right click doesnt

Its not a problem with my right click. So a list of the packages that are installed would be helpful, i have tried re-emerging all the packages listed on page 1 of this thread but still no right click.

EDIT: Just tried compiling xfce4-session and it breaks

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de -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -DLIBDIR=\"/usr/lib\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DXFSM_SHUTDOWN_HELPER=\"/usr/libexec/xfsm-shutdown-helper\" -DG_DISABLE_ASSERT -DG_DISABLE_CHECKS -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wno-error -Wno-error -Wno-error -MT xfce4_session-xfsm-startup.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/xfce4_session-xfsm-startup.Tpo" -c -o xfce4_session-xfsm-startup.o `test -f 'xfsm-startup.c' || echo './'`xfsm-startup.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/xfce4_session-xfsm-startup.Tpo" ".deps/xfce4_session-xfsm-startup.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/xfce4_session-xfsm-startup.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../xfce4-session/libxfsm-4.2.la', needed by `xfce4-session'.  Stop.
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xfce4-session-20101010/work/xfce4/xfce4-session/xfce4-session'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xfce4-session-20101010/work/xfce4/xfce4-session'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: xfce-base/xfce4-session-20101010 failed.
!!! Function xfce4_fluidcvs_src_compile, Line 90, Exitcode 2

But from the help does xfce4-session really have an effect on the desktop? it says that it just handles the loading and closing of xfce4.

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:49 pm

I get the xfce4-session error from CVS at the moment too, so I've got the beta session manager installed instead. But no, it doesn't make a huge difference. I have it installed so I can have Mozilla Thunderbird start on desktop 2 every time I start Xfce4, just 'cos I'm lazy

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As for right-clicking, does this thread help at all?

blotto · Post by **blotto** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:50 pm

Hi

You should be able to set it in the Settings Manager - choose the desktop icon and then the menu tab and check the box for Show desktop menu and the box for Show application icons thats all I needed to do.

The Sessions manager isn't needed but lets you have different setups of Xfce4 and choose which one you want at startup.

Running the 4.1.90 from portage no problems at all
Screenshot

kakakoka · Post by **kakakoka** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:28 pm

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tachikoma local # emerge -av /usr/portage/xfce-base/xfce4/xfce4-4.1.90.ebuild 

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies \
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy ">=xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar-0.1.0" have been masked.
!!! possible candidates are:
- xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar-0.1.0 (masked by: ~keyword)
!!!    (dependency required by "xfce-base/xfce4-4.1.90" [ebuild])

!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

Im having trouble emerging. I did as mentioned above. My make.conf file looks like this:

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CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
HOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
USE="-qt -arts -kde -gnome -apm 3dnow acpi alsa cdr nls cjk cups dvd mmx sse offensive scanner unicode usb php ssl mysq
l doc emacs samba apache2"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ http://ftp.du.se/pub/os/gentoo http://ds.thn.htu.s
e/linux/gentoo ftp://ftp.linux.ee/pub/gentoo/distfiles/"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage/"

Gandalf the White · Post by **Gandalf the White** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:47 pm

Taskbar ebuild is masked, add "xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar ~x86" to your /etc/portage/package.keywords.

kakakoka · Post by **kakakoka** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:10 pm

Ah, it seems that i had to add a few more packages to /etc/portage/package.keywords. I wonder why my situation differed (from that in pip101's posting), but thanks for the help.

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:34 pm

My packages didn't include the extra unofficial plugins, just all the official bits, so more unstable packages need to be unmasked for the portage packages.

dkure · Post by **dkure** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:41 am

my problem solved

i needed to add deskmenu to the use flags
just do this

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echo "=xfce-base/xfdesktop-20101010 deskmenu" >> /etc/portage/package.use

then recompile xfdesktop

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emerge -av xfce-base/xfdesktop

and bobs your uncle.

Thanks for the thread, it helped me track down the problem.