Xfce4 now has composite in WM

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LostSon · Post by **LostSon** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:07 am

Speaking of XFCE has anyone seen this gkrellm anywhere the link on the site is broken and its not on the gkrellm theme site. There are a few of us looking for this theme. If anyone has it please shoot me link thanks.

http://www3.baylor.edu/~Jake_Pennell/ummm.png

nickeh · Post by **nickeh** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:46 am

Looks really nice!
Having some problems though.

1. Auto-hide is broke
2. XFCE-systray doesn't show up in my panel
3. Don't get any eyecandy from xorg. (Shadows)

That's all for now, will probably run into som more problems...

Oh, wouldn't it be nice to somhow set the transparancy of a window by pointing at the window list and scroll with the scroll wheel ? Maybe its not possible to do som sort of fade but since you can roll up windows with your scroll wheel you suld be able to do other stuff to!!

Also kind of enoying that if you scroll when having mouse att edge of the screen XFCE counts it as if you have the mouse on the desktop and therefore it changes to next/previous desktop

Schizoid · Post by **Schizoid** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:38 am

nickeh wrote:Looks really nice!
Having some problems though.

1. Auto-hide is broke
2. XFCE-systray doesn't show up in my panel
3. Don't get any eyecandy from xorg. (Shadows)

That's all for now, will probably run into som more problems...

Oh, wouldn't it be nice to somhow set the transparancy of a window by pointing at the window list and scroll with the scroll wheel ? Maybe its not possible to do som sort of fade but since you can roll up windows with your scroll wheel you suld be able to do other stuff to!!

Also kind of enoying that if you scroll when having mouse att edge of the screen XFCE counts it as if you have the mouse on the desktop and therefore it changes to next/previous desktop

You need to emerge xfwm4 with the +compositor use flag to get drop shadows in xorg.

I love the way you can change desktop with the scroll wheel. You can also shade a window if you use the scroll wheel on a titlebar. I am so used to these two features that I go mad if I find myself using any other WM.

Have you added the systray? You have to right click the panel and add item. Also turn the systray off in the taskbar. And of course the systray wont look like much if you don't have something running that makes use of it....

madbiker wrote: My next question is how I get the icons to be displayed in the right-click menu. I've realized the power of the drag-n-drop from the appfinder to the menueditor as well. However, the icons are displayed in the menueditor, but not in the right-click menu. Is there a checkbox somewhere I'm missing?

Desktop Settings, Menu tab

madbiker · Post by **madbiker** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:54 am

Schizoid wrote:Desktop Settings, Menu tab

I realized I was adding icons for things in my sub-menues, then looking for them in my main menu.

Okay, next up is trying to get all of the old xfce toys working on the new panel. I got the datetime one working, but I want all my stats ones back. I re-emerged (which is all I had to do for datetime) the netstat, hd, processor, ram, and pagefile monitors, but they're not listed as something I can add. I've killed and reopened the panel (which I don't think I had to do for the datetime one... nice feature!) to double check, but still no go. It was advertised as backward compatible, so I'm hoping there's something obvious I'm missing.

ralph · Post by **ralph** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:30 am

Just wanted to say thanks for the ebuilds to Pip101. Works fine here and sure is fun to use.

DL8 · Post by **DL8** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:32 am

/me is emergeing it now
10x, it's just what I wanted - ebuilds for XFCE4.2 beta

So far package 2/24

matroskin · Post by **matroskin** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:55 am

I've installed everything as described but get no shadows neither transparency
transset does something but no results.
I have xorg 6.8.0-r1 and xfce4 4.2.0_beta1 +compositor
May be I have to edit ~/.xfwmrc or smth like that?

illuminati · Post by **illuminati** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:56 pm

Thanks a lot for the ebuilds. This release looks great.

Does anyone know if there's a way to set transparency other than using transset? Something that can keep settings for each application/window would be great. I've been looking through XFCE's configuration but can't seem to find a way to do it.

WhyteWolf · Post by **WhyteWolf** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:27 pm

anyone know how to get rid of the taskbar in this one ... it seems to be ignoreing my /etc/xfce4 and ~/.xfce folders compleatly

not to mention the manual doesn't come up with alt+f1 or by clicking on the help button

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:58 pm

LostSon wrote:WOW this is hella nice I thought they were gonna add a pop3 mail checker in the new verison as though Thanks for the great instructions

I think there is but no frontend to it.. If I remember rightly from the mailing lists, it works if you use pop3://user:pass@server. Not tried it myself, though.

WhyteWolf wrote:anyone know how to get rid of the taskbar in this one ... it seems to be ignoreing my /etc/xfce4 and ~/.xfce folders compleatly

not to mention the manual doesn't come up with alt+f1 or by clicking on the help button

Firstly, ~/.xfce4/ is now deprecated in favour of ~/.config/xfce4/. And I'm assuming you're using the session manager, in which case just do a

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killall xftaskbar4

and then tell the session manager to save the session, if it's set to ask. xftaskbar4 should then not start next time you open an Xfce4 session.

nickeh · Post by **nickeh** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:17 pm

Schizoid wrote:
nickeh wrote:Looks really nice!
Having some problems though.

1. Auto-hide is broke
2. XFCE-systray doesn't show up in my panel
3. Don't get any eyecandy from xorg. (Shadows)

That's all for now, will probably run into som more problems...

Oh, wouldn't it be nice to somhow set the transparancy of a window by pointing at the window list and scroll with the scroll wheel ? Maybe its not possible to do som sort of fade but since you can roll up windows with your scroll wheel you suld be able to do other stuff to!!

Also kind of enoying that if you scroll when having mouse att edge of the screen XFCE counts it as if you have the mouse on the desktop and therefore it changes to next/previous desktop
You need to emerge xfwm4 with the +compositor use flag to get drop shadows in xorg.

I love the way you can change desktop with the scroll wheel. You can also shade a window if you use the scroll wheel on a titlebar. I am so used to these two features that I go mad if I find myself using any other WM.

Have you added the systray? You have to right click the panel and add item. Also turn the systray off in the taskbar. And of course the systray wont look like much if you don't have something running that makes use of it....

Ahh, missed that

Ye the changing desktop with scroll is sweet but isn't it suppsed to just change if you point your mouse on a empty pice of desktop?
If i have a maximized window and put the cursor at the edge of the screen and try to scroll the window instead i get the next desktop.

Yea probably isn't a good idea to remove the shade with scroll feature but what if they did it with a key kombo like Shift + Scrollwheel = Transset and scrollwheel remains controlling shade as it is now.

Probaly i just misunderstot the purpose of systray.

Well seems like your tips solved my problems. Thanks!

TUX2k · Post by **TUX2k** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:33 pm

I just emerged XFCE4.2 beta1and I can just say one think it rocks.

But just one thnig, some of you have screensaver en sound present in the setting screen.
I dont. My sound works but I dont have the volume controle in as a panel.

Any one any idea what could have gone wrong. als is there a toturial vor the composite some where?

WhyteWolf · Post by **WhyteWolf** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:39 pm

TUX2k wrote:I just emerged XFCE4.2 beta1and I can just say one think it rocks.

But just one thnig, some of you have screensaver en sound present in the setting screen.
I dont. My sound works but I dont have the volume controle in as a panel.

Any one any idea what could have gone wrong. als is there a toturial vor the composite some where?

that would be xfce4-mixer ... which the new version is said not to work with alsa ... which sucks IMHO sence I'm also a alsa user

radTube · Post by **radTube** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:07 pm

WhyteWolf wrote:that would be xfce4-mixer ... which the new version is said not to work with alsa ... which sucks IMHO sence I'm also a alsa user

This is already fixed, but not in time for the beta. Apparently there was a file missing. You can get the working version from cvs if you can't wait for the next release.

WhyteWolf · Post by **WhyteWolf** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:12 pm

radTube wrote:
WhyteWolf wrote:that would be xfce4-mixer ... which the new version is said not to work with alsa ... which sucks IMHO sence I'm also a alsa user
This is already fixed, but not in time for the beta. Apparently there was a file missing. You can get the working version from cvs if you can't wait for the next release.

me personaly I"ll just wait ... I can just use some other mixer for now

madbiker · Post by **madbiker** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:32 pm

Has anyone gotten their stats things working again? I've re-emerged them again to no avail...

WhyteWolf · Post by **WhyteWolf** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:35 pm

madbiker wrote:Has anyone gotten their stats things working again? I've re-emerged them again to no avail...

mine didn't work the first time through ... kept crashing other programs for some reason ... and didn't read the stats right anyway

codergeek42 · Post by **codergeek42** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:59 pm

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WhyteWolf · Post by **WhyteWolf** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:01 pm

codergeek42 wrote:Submitted to Technocrat.net

might wanna edit your link to gentoo sence you put a ; instead of an :

Schizoid · Post by **Schizoid** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:28 pm

nickeh wrote: Ahh, missed that

Ye the changing desktop with scroll is sweet but isn't it suppsed to just change if you point your mouse on a empty pice of desktop?
If i have a maximized window and put the cursor at the edge of the screen and try to scroll the window instead i get the next desktop.

Yea probably isn't a good idea to remove the shade with scroll feature but what if they did it with a key kombo like Shift + Scrollwheel = Transset and scrollwheel remains controlling shade as it is now.

Probaly i just misunderstot the purpose of systray.

Well seems like your tips solved my problems. Thanks!

When I maximize a window and scroll at the edge of the screen nothing happens.

Are you sure you don't have a margin set? Also if you use the taskbar I think that makes a margin on the side it is stuck to.

Maybe it has something to do with the WM theme you are using?

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:19 pm

TUX2k wrote:I just emerged XFCE4.2 beta1and I can just say one think it rocks.

But just one thnig, some of you have screensaver en sound present in the setting screen.
I dont. My sound works but I dont have the volume controle in as a panel.

Any one any idea what could have gone wrong. als is there a toturial vor the composite some where?

What was said before about xfce4-mixer, and I think the screensaver settings part would depend on xscreensaver being installed, do you have it?

WhyteWolf · Post by **WhyteWolf** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:36 pm

just noticed something about thease ebuilds ... all the docs didn't get copyed to /usr/share/doc ...

all the README.Kiosk from xfce4-session, xfce4-panel, xfdesktop are missing

do you have a bugzilla for thease ebuilds?

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:40 pm

WhyteWolf wrote:just noticed something about thease ebuilds ... all the docs didn't get copyed to /usr/share/doc ...

all the README.Kiosk from xfce4-session, xfce4-panel, xfdesktop are missing

do you have a bugzilla for thease ebuilds?

Good point, thanks. I only just realised what exactly (or mostly, anyway..) dodoc does in the ebuilds now you mention it, I copied them from 4.0.6's ebuilds before 'cos I wasn't exactly sure what it should do/be like, but it looked right. You can see I'm not an expert by any means at these, can't you..

Ah well, I suppose we all start somewhere. I'll go through those when I have some time, perhaps later. And no, not got any fancy stuff like that I'm afraid.

WhyteWolf · Post by **WhyteWolf** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:49 pm

Pip101 wrote:
WhyteWolf wrote:just noticed something about thease ebuilds ... all the docs didn't get copyed to /usr/share/doc ...

all the README.Kiosk from xfce4-session, xfce4-panel, xfdesktop are missing

do you have a bugzilla for thease ebuilds?
Good point, thanks. I only just realised what exactly (or mostly, anyway..) dodoc does in the ebuilds now you mention it, I copied them from 4.0.6's ebuilds before 'cos I wasn't exactly sure what it should do/be like, but it looked right. You can see I'm not an expert by any means at these, can't you..
Ah well, I suppose we all start somewhere. I'll go through those when I have some time, perhaps later. And no, not got any fancy stuff like that I'm afraid.

hehe no problem ... we all got to start somewhere

Pip101 · Post by **Pip101** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:02 pm

OK, just noticed that some hardmasked xfce4-4.1.90 ebuilds have been added to portage, so it might be just as well (or probably better) to use those. And I see that it "dodoc"s README*, etc., so that bug will be fixed anyway.