New ATI drivers 3.12.0

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Rafal_Glazar · Post by **Rafal_Glazar** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:08 pm

There are new drivers. You can get them here.
They've included version for XFree86 4.4.0 but still no X.Org version, so I don't know which version I need to use with X.Org.

aslocum · Post by **aslocum** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:11 pm

its quite simple to get the drivers...

if you have a local portage overlay like /us/local/portage (or something different) just copy the /usr/portage/media-video/ati-drivers folder to your overlay (making a media-video folder there before!) the just rename the 3.11.1 ebuild to 3.12.0 and then "ebuild ati-drivers-3.12.0.ebuild digest" then emerge the ati-drivers. works perfect

blaster999 · Post by **blaster999** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:15 pm

Maybe they were inspired by the Ati Driver Petition? However, no 64 bit drivers yet

XOrg supports XFree 4.3 drivers.
Also, where did you see drivers for XFree 4.4?

Rafal_Glazar · Post by **Rafal_Glazar** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:40 pm

Also, where did you see drivers for XFree 4.4?

Seems like they take them down. I have them on my hdd.

And yes x.org support 4.3.0. Drivers made for 4.4.0 gave me errors.
To be honest I don't see any difference. Performance is the same, bug in NWN (flickering grass) is still there so i'm thinking about going back to 3.11.1.

gralves · Post by **gralves** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:47 pm

blaster999 wrote:Maybe they were inspired by the Ati Driver Petition? However, no 64 bit drivers yet
XOrg supports XFree 4.3 drivers.
Also, where did you see drivers for XFree 4.4?

The 4.4 drivers hardlocked xorg6.8 (this driver release was supposed to fix several issues with 6.

. I think they will release a new driver soon.

Rafal_Glazar · Post by **Rafal_Glazar** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:51 pm

I will not wait for that. I've got enough. Next week i'm bying GeForce4 Ti 4200.

gralves · Post by **gralves** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:02 pm

Rafal_Glazar wrote:I will not wait for that. I've got enough. Next week i'm bying GeForce4 Ti 4200.

If I had the money I would have switched to nvidia a long time ago...

Bot24 · Post by **Bot24** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:15 am

I have the money, but I would have to upgrade my mother board to make it a worth while upgrade. I could probably do it. I will have to look at it this weekend. I should go mention on the petition that I have been forced to switch to NVidia because their drivers don't work at all when I do. I guess, for now, I will switch to the OSS Radeon drivers and take advantage of the XV bug fix.

trpn · Post by **trpn** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:54 am

The 4.4 drivers hardlocked xorg6.8 (this driver release was supposed to fix several issues with 6.. I think they will release a new driver soon.

where did you get that information from if you dont mind

herbo · Post by **herbo** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:19 am

Inital impressions are disappointing

They do work with xorg 6.8.0 however I had to disable glx to get them to load, otherwise x would not load with a million messages about missing symbols (No matching visual for __GLcontextMode with visual class = -1 (-1), nplanes = 0). The same behaviour was found on 3.11.1 and 3.12.0 with xorg 6.8.0.

So basically 3.12.0 are no better than the 3.11.1 or radeon driver (although I had s strange problem where with the radeon driver in xorg 6.8.0 would crash after while with sig 11 with no activity, couldn't figure out where it was coming from).

I have a radeon 9800pro, so the radeon drivers are not overly useful due to a lack of opengl. But at the moment 3.12.0 are no better, hopefully some new drivers are released soon that fixed this up.

On the brighter side xv now works fine. Can play multiple movies of varying dimensions and they all work fine.

Bot24 · Post by **Bot24** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:00 am

The 3.12 kernel module won't compile for me. It looks like it patched the kernel sources multiple times.

forceflow2 · Post by **forceflow2** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:48 am

This was basically a "Let's add IGP support (2D only) for those users using old versions of xfree or not yet using X.org" (as xorg had it already)

If this is all we got out of the petition (if it's because of it )then I consider it an ultimate failure. If it wasn't, I consider ATI's drivers a failure...well...I do either way...

mrpdaemon · Post by **mrpdaemon** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:10 am

both 3.11.1 and 3.12.0 crashes with X.org 6.8.0 when anything glx related is invoked.

Rolled back to 6.7.0 here

herbo · Post by **herbo** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:17 am

mrpdaemon wrote:both 3.11.1 and 3.12.0 crashes with X.org 6.8.0 when anything glx related is invoked.

Rolled back to 6.7.0 here

I had to have option nodri=yes to simply get xorg 6.8.0 to load. But even then anything 3d related caused a crash with the 3.12.0 driver.

Have changed to the radeon driver from x.org and everything seems to be going fine (apart from no HW 3D

). Come on ATI, pull your finger out!!!

gralves · Post by **gralves** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:14 am

trpn wrote:
The 4.4 drivers hardlocked xorg6.8 (this driver release was supposed to fix several issues with 6.. I think they will release a new driver soon.
where did you get that information from if you dont mind

A thread on rage3d stated that someone tried 4.4 with xorg and it hardlocked.
There's a blocking bug for the xorg 6.8.0 (I can't remember the exact bug, sorry, but it blocks https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=351) where the developers said there was a problem with the driver that only ATI could fix.

trpn · Post by **trpn** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:57 pm

gralves wrote:
trpn wrote:
The 4.4 drivers hardlocked xorg6.8 (this driver release was supposed to fix several issues with 6.. I think they will release a new driver soon.
where did you get that information from if you dont mind
A thread on rage3d stated that someone tried 4.4 with xorg and it hardlocked.
There's a blocking bug for the xorg 6.8.0 (I can't remember the exact bug, sorry, but it blocks https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=351) where the developers said there was a problem with the driver that only ATI could fix.

That was me who wrote that in the rage3d forum!... I meant where did you get the info that ati's 4.4 release was supposed to resolve issues with 6.8.0. The bug is an invalid one you linked to. I don't mean to be pessimistic but I find it hard to beleive ATi has said anything that they are working on ways in which to fix issues with xorg. Seems to me that if they release a driver for a version of xfree that no one uses, then find out that even THAT driver doesn't work and pull it, there is something wrong with they way they are developing the driver.

Don't mind me, right now I wish that I had bought an Nvidia card.

black hole sun · Post by **black hole sun** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:26 pm

trpn wrote:
gralves wrote:
trpn wrote:
The 4.4 drivers hardlocked xorg6.8 (this driver release was supposed to fix several issues with 6.. I think they will release a new driver soon.
where did you get that information from if you dont mind
A thread on rage3d stated that someone tried 4.4 with xorg and it hardlocked.
There's a blocking bug for the xorg 6.8.0 (I can't remember the exact bug, sorry, but it blocks https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=351) where the developers said there was a problem with the driver that only ATI could fix.
That was me who wrote that in the rage3d forum!... I meant where did you get the info that ati's 4.4 release was supposed to resolve issues with 6.8.0. The bug is an invalid one you linked to. I don't mean to be pessimistic but I find it hard to beleive ATi has said anything that they are working on ways in which to fix issues with xorg. Seems to me that if they release a driver for a version of xfree that no one uses, then find out that even THAT driver doesn't work and pull it, there is something wrong with they way they are developing the driver.

Don't mind me, right now I wish that I had bought an Nvidia card.

Matthew Tippet responded to one of the Xorg 6.8 bug listings. I forgot which, but the one he linked to is not it. Anyway, he SAID that they would be releasing a new driver with Xorg 6.8 support "In a few weeks." Take that for what you will.

Ah, and, can we get an ebuild for these?

gralves · Post by **gralves** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:51 pm

This is the correct bug:

https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1085

(The link was wrong because of the ('s . I didn't said that was the bug, I said the bug blocked it. )

I already contacted the ATI Linux driver development head about this and this
is what he told me:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 08:12:14 -0400
From: Matthew Tippett <matthew.tippett@sympatico.ca>

Yes,

We are planning a re-release of an existing driver (most likely
3.12). Commercial Distributions are obviously taking up 6.8.

There are binary incompatibility in the modules, and so we may
follow after a couple of weeks (after testing).

Regards,

Matthew
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Only ATI can fix this.

Bot24 · Post by **Bot24** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:23 am

[quote="trpn"]Don't mind me, right now I wish that I had bought an Nvidia card.[/quote]
I was thinking of getting one this weekend. I might wait for the next set of drivers. It depends on the availability of GeForce 6 cards and 64bit Athlon computers with PCIE.

strobhen · Post by **strobhen** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:52 am

If ATI doesn't get on the ball *quick* with these drivers, I will most certainly buy an NVIDIA card next time around.

Regardless of performance or price.

tallest · Post by **tallest** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:16 pm

This morning I found ati-drivers-3.12.0 was in portage, but when I went to emerge it I got this.

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┌(root@navi)-(11:07 AM Sat Sep 11)=
└(/home/wilson)-> emerge -a ati-drivers ati-drivers-extra

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/ati-drivers-3.12.0
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/ati-drivers-3.9.0-r1
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/ati-drivers-extra-3.9.0

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]

Any ideas?

Thanks
Aaron

Wedge_ · Post by **Wedge_** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:37 pm

There might not be an ati-drivers-extra-3.12.0 ebuild yet. If you don't want/need the fgl_glxgears app, you can just emerge ati-drivers. If you want fgl_glxgears, run "emerge --nodeps ati-drivers-extra", which should install the ati-drivers-extra-3.9.0 package without first installing the 3.9.0 driver.

Bot24 · Post by **Bot24** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:11 am

lspci wrote:0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0045(rev a1)

Weeeeeee!

platojones · Post by **platojones** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:03 pm

Interesting thing just happened. I installed ati-drivers-3.12.0 on my box yesterday through the normal package.keywords mechanism to pick up ~x86 packages. This morning I sync'ed my box and now it wants to install the ati-drivers-3.11.1 again. I checked the ebuild for the 3.12.0 driver, and it now has both the -* and the ~x86 in the keywords. The online package database doesn't show anything about the drivers in the last 24 hours. Anybody know what to make of this?

Kern3lP4nic · Post by **Kern3lP4nic** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:18 pm

platojones wrote:Interesting thing just happened. I installed ati-drivers-3.12.0 on my box yesterday through the normal package.keywords mechanism to pick up ~x86 packages. This morning I sync'ed my box and now it wants to install the ati-drivers-3.11.1 again. I checked the ebuild for the 3.12.0 driver, and it now has both the -* and the ~x86 in the keywords. The online package database doesn't show anything about the drivers in the last 24 hours. Anybody know what to make of this?

Seems like xorg 6.8 blocks the 3.12 drivers ebuild because of the crashes. It might be that the block wasn't present when you emerged the drivers the first time... not that it solves anything, since any older version of the driver has this problem too