XOrg 6.7.99.x / 6.8.0

Message

gulivert · Post by **gulivert** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:14 am

docGonzo2000 wrote:I was wondering if anybody figured out how to get drop shadows off of GDesklets items

Is not possible to exclude an application for drop shadow

, But that would be really well

AdolescentFred · Post by **AdolescentFred** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:15 am

yes 3 times but i couldnt get xorg to run long enough to compleet the compilie it keeps crashing.
i tried binery versions, both the one in portage and one of the nightly builds from the website and niether of those work giving a different error.
im downgrading xorg to 903 now because i found it more stable anyway and firefox works on there. hopefully this will fix it for now

gurke · Post by **gurke** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:17 am

gurke wrote:my problem seems to be an application level problem. if i dont run firefox (my only running gtk app), the glitches get way less dramatically.

if i disable renderacceleration it draws perfectly, but it then is soooo slooooow.

Cagnulein · Post by **Cagnulein** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:17 am

is there a way to store the transset setting for each window?

thx

AdolescentFred · Post by **AdolescentFred** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:17 am

gulivert wrote:
docGonzo2000 wrote:I was wondering if anybody figured out how to get drop shadows off of GDesklets items
Is not possible to exclude an application for drop shadow , But that would be really well

metacity automatically stops drop shadows for gdesklets(im running 2.8.1), so it is possible, and theres your answer.

gulivert · Post by **gulivert** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:25 am

AdolescentFred wrote:
gulivert wrote:
docGonzo2000 wrote:I was wondering if anybody figured out how to get drop shadows off of GDesklets items
Is not possible to exclude an application for drop shadow , But that would be really well
metacity automatically stops drop shadows for gdesklets(im running 2.8.1), so it is possible, and theres your answer.

Ok, but it is for metacity, but if I use FVWM, how exclude application??? And metacity exclude drop shadow for gdesklets, but only gdesklets?? For engage, it's possible???
You are configuration file for exclude drop shadows on metacity??

For good, one would need a file of configuration for xcompmgr which would make it possible to list applications which should not have the drop shadows

SOrry for my English, I speak french

TheWoopWoop · Post by **TheWoopWoop** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:43 am

This has been a great thread and a fun learning experience. Thanks to all the help and advice provided here I've got this up and running. When combined with the new gensplash that I patched in last night I've got a pretty sexy looking system.

You guys should check out skippy-xd (http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php). Skippy is in portage while skippy-xd is not but it is an easy compile. It uses composite and damage to enable an expose-like feature. Unlike the old version in portage though skippy-xd will update the windows in real time.

Make sure you copy the example rc file to your home directory and set the lazyTrans variable as true which uses xcompmgr to handle transparencies.

Let me know if you have any questions and I will do my best to answer them. I can't wait for these extensions to be fully supported by any of the major window managers and desktop environments. For now though XFCE is looking pretty damn cool even with these "proof of concept" programs.

IMPORTANT. I just discovered that Skippy crashes and so does X if you press the hotkey while a browser has the netscape flash plugin running. For now I have removed that plugin from my system and all is well. This has the wonderful side effect of making the internet much less annoying. I'm assuming this is an issue Macromedia will need to fix so don't hold your breath.

Dr Gonzo · Post by **Dr Gonzo** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:45 am

Well, how do you enable metacity compositing support? I know that it's only the latest version, but is it a gconf key or something like that? Or, does it get enabled in compilation?

psofa · Post by **psofa** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:49 am

u can try patching xcompmgr . i dont know c except for maths but from a quick look u can add this in function win_extents in line 697:

Code: Select all

if ((compMode != CompSimple)&&(w->id!="insert ur window id here"))

As for the metacity compositor it gets enabled in compilation. if u want to disable it edit the ebuild:

G2CONF="${G2CONF}
$(use_enable xinerama)
$(useq nocompositor && echo "--disable-compositor")"

and add nocompositor into ur use flags.Got this from fluidcvs ebuild

athemi · Post by **athemi** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:50 am

docGonzo2000 wrote:Well, how do you enable metacity compositing support? I know that it's only the latest version, but is it a gconf key or something like that? Or, does it get enabled in compilation?

It's enabled during the configuration script runs. Before it compiles metacity >=2.8.1 checks for composite support.
I don't know if it already works with 2.8.1 (at least the check is included in this version) as I only tried 2.8.3, but be warned, it's awfully slow compared to xcompgr in regard to transperancy. Enabling RenderAccel doesn't help in this case, either.

Cagnulein · Post by **Cagnulein** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:51 am

I give it a try

crazy-bee · Post by **crazy-bee** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:52 am

docGonzo2000 wrote:Well, how do you enable metacity compositing support? I know that it's only the latest version, but is it a gconf key or something like that? Or, does it get enabled in compilation?

Compositing support in metacity is pretty broken. In Metacity 2.8.3 it was enabled by default but slow as hell, and in 2.8.4 (which is the current one from RC1), is says:

from ./configure:

"checking Xcomposite >= 1.0... yes
Not building compositing manager by default now, must enable explicitly to get it. And it doesn't work, so don't bother unless you want to hack on it...
Building without compositing manager"

It's a pity!

samppa · Post by **samppa** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:56 am

edmondo wrote:
samppa wrote:
John5788 wrote:just turn xcompmgr off when doing 3d stuff. thats what i do and its fine
Yeah, I don't use xcompmgr...
I tried right now to play UT2004 with xcompmgr off and It's running perfectly (nvidia binary driver).

I'm using the ATI DRI drivers of xorg-x11.

Dr Gonzo · Post by **Dr Gonzo** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:12 am

Thanks, I ain't gonna use the thing until I'm pretty sure it'll work.

xcompmgr makes things reasonably pretty, so I'll just play with that for a bit. It's funny, I haven't stayed up this late playing with something new in a very long time. X is about to look real cool, especially once the desktop environment guys get it all integrated.

I just hope that Gnome-Terminal will some day have real transparency as an option for just the background. I've used a Mac for a while, and I liked that possibility.

Cossins · Post by **Cossins** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:17 am

Argh! Whenever I start Xorg with the nvidia driver it freezes with a screenful of artifacts! Tried both with and without RenderAccel.
This only happens after a few seconds, e.g. when I click the desktop in KDE.

Also, if I run it as root with a minimalistic WM, I can't start xcompmgr - it says "No composite extension", although the log files clearly state that both COMPOSITE, DAMAGE and RENDER were loaded.

[edit] But I gotta add: There is remarkable improvement in 6.7.99.904 over XFree86 4.3.0! Everything runs a hell of a lot snappier, even with the nv driver (which I'm forced to use at the moment). [/edit]

[edit2] Alright, I got the COMPOSITE extention working (I missed the Extensions-section that enables the extensions, it was only loaded. Now I only need to resolve the nvidia crashing problem. [/edit2]

- Simon

credo · Post by **credo** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:55 am

Wow this thing is great. However, I'm experiencing 2 problems:

1) X will freeze the system entirely If I switch workspaces in GNOME too much. I think even after a lot of activity in one workspace, the same happens. I get a screenload of orange lines, similar to the days of Commador 64s

2) I cant actually use the window fade extension to xcompmgr (the -f tag). It seems like the ultimate extension, but when I restore a window, only the shadow appears on the screen, not the window (ie, i get a square black box).

I am using 903 (am upgrading to 904 as we speak, but from what I've heard in this forum, it can be even LESS stable!)
Also using the latest nvidia drivers, RENDERACCEL = True, GNOME 2.6.*, Firefox 0.9.3, xcompmgr -c

oberyno · Post by **oberyno** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:21 am

Cagnulein wrote:is there a way to store the transset setting for each window?

thx

If you use fvwm, you can use Kandian's FvwmTransset along with rcxAsh's transset patch.

Other wm's will catch up eventually.

nik1982 · Post by **nik1982** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:24 pm

I emerged 6.7.99.904 and everything is working..

transparent windows off a bit slow till now.. but i realised that i can't get my ati fglrx - drivers working. Is this normal that the drivers from ATI (not the Xorg ati-drivers) are not working with this RC4!?

Dominik

Zyne · Post by **Zyne** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:40 pm

nik1982 wrote:Is this normal that the drivers from ATI (not the Xorg ati-drivers) are not working with this RC4!?

Dominik

sadly enough it is normal...

maybe ATI will release new drivers once the final release of Xorg kicks in...

Hanfmet · Post by **Hanfmet** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:15 pm

I have some problems with newer X.Orgversions. Maybe somebody know's whats going on?
- When I try to use shadows they appear but when I try to move a shadowed window then, my machine freezes.
- When I run a KDE/QT application, my machine freezes (after a few secs in SIM and at the start of kasablanca).

I'm using a Geforce2 MX, nvidia driver, Fluxbox 0.9.10-r1 (doesn't work with 0.9.9 too), KDEbase 3.3.0 (doesn't work with 3.2 too).

ksuther · Post by **ksuther** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:38 pm

I'm downgrading from RC4 back to RC3, as I'm having firefox crashing problems, but also vncviewer and all my gtk2+ apps crash. Do I just need to rebuild packages, or is something really wrong?

frippz · Post by **frippz** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:01 pm

gulivert wrote:I have installed version 6.7.99.904 but, I have a problem with Firefox and firefox-bin.

They do not want to start any more, here the error

/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory?
What is this lib???

Thanks ....

ps : sorry, i speak french .... :S

I got that error too after emerging .904. Couldn't find any fix so I'm just reverting til .903 again...

Cossins · Post by **Cossins** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:04 pm

Could someone with a relatively flawless configuration please post his xorg.conf, NVIDIA driver version, kernel version, compiler version and whatever else is relevant? This would help a lot...

- Simon

imptech · Post by **imptech** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:29 pm

Zyne wrote:
nik1982 wrote:Is this normal that the drivers from ATI (not the Xorg ati-drivers) are not working with this RC4!?

Dominik
sadly enough it is normal...
maybe ATI will release new drivers once the final release of Xorg kicks in...

Hrm... strangely enough I've been running RC4 since yesterday using fglrx. OpenGL apps still crash X, and there's still drawing weirdness in some apps (less than in RC3), and of course the acceleration's not real good. It does work though, with xcompmgr and transset and everything, and I don't think I did anything special to make it work. Only thing I can think of is that I did disable the console framebuffer the other day.

I'm using ati-drivers-3.9.0-r1 and xorg-x11-6.7.99.904, both from regular portage with pretty safe CFLAGS. Kernel 2.6.8-gentoo-r3, video card is a Radeon 9600 Pro, mobo is a NForce2.

perchut2 · Post by **perchut2** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:32 pm

imptech wrote:
Zyne wrote:
nik1982 wrote:Is this normal that the drivers from ATI (not the Xorg ati-drivers) are not working with this RC4!?

Dominik
sadly enough it is normal...
maybe ATI will release new drivers once the final release of Xorg kicks in...
Hrm... strangely enough I've been running RC4 since yesterday using fglrx. OpenGL apps still crash X, and there's still drawing weirdness in some apps (less than in RC3), and of course the acceleration's not real good. It does work though, with xcompmgr and transset and everything, and I don't think I did anything special to make it work. Only thing I can think of is that I did disable the console framebuffer the other day.

I'm using ati-drivers-3.9.0-r1 and xorg-x11-6.7.99.904, both from regular portage with pretty safe CFLAGS. Kernel 2.6.8-gentoo-r3, video card is a Radeon 9600 Pro, mobo is a NForce2.

Is your fglrx module loaded and used in lsmod ?

XOrg 6.7.99.x / 6.8.0

Problems...