2.6.8.1-nitro6 "Say no to no say"

[borkdox]

I am having sound skipping problems too. When playing Doom 3 the sound problems make it unplayable. Also, if I am extracting a big file, the mouse skips and apps become somewhat unresponsible. is this the normal behavior in ck patchset?

Thanks

[Bot24]

PS:- i haven;t been able to rectify my age old problem with text files on reiser4.....whenever i edit/create a file in pico/vim it waits for a while b4 retirning to console, saying writing.... in pico..........i have tried all available kernels so i don;t think it could be a kernel problem but then plz help if nyone knows

Reiser4 is supposed to sync slower than most file systems, and that might be what your text editor does to prevent data loss.

[joshdr77]

hey ppl

what are your kernel command line parameters

please post cat /proc/cmdline

thanks josh

[Wi1d]

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root=/dev/hda3 video=vesafb:ywrap,1280x1024@85 splash=silent

[The Unlimited]

Here's mine:

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root=/dev/hdc8 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,noedid,nocrtc,1024x768-16@75 splash=verbose,theme:emergence

[borkdox]

I am having sound skipping problems too. When playing Doom 3 the sound problems make it unplayable. Also, if I am extracting a big file, the mouse skips and apps become somewhat unresponsible. is this the normal behavior in ck patchset?

Thanks

I just compiled 2.6.9-rc1-mm2 and is running no problems, no more audio skipping or mouse lagging, it feels smoother and more responsive than 2.6.8.1-nitro6 or 2.6.8.1-love1.

[skion]

Hi,

Is anyone else experiencing that with the last two releases only half of your memory seems to be used? I have 1GB total, but it seems to always have >50% free, no matter what i do...

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Mem:    905584k total,   426896k used,   478688k free,    36724k buffers
Swap:   498004k total,        0k used,   498004k free,   178228k cached

Could this have to do with the "1Gb Low Memory Support"?

BTW. Why would top still say 900Mb when i really do have the above 1Gb option enabled?

Tnx,

[jewps]

*shrug* One mans trash is another mans treasure.

I repatched it myself. I apologize if you took offense. I'm surprised so many people are willing to pay the price tag for win4lin. Is it *really* worth it?

Dpends what you mean by 'willing to pay the price tag'? If you mean simply the money to buy it, then yes, it is substantially cheaper than vmware and is 10$ more than cross-over office.

If you mean because it's not open source, then I say I use win4lin, ati-drivers, nvidia-drivers and anything else that I cannot substitute with oss without a second thought. If I have something to do, I want to do it and not sacrifice my time due to misguided (IMO) principles.

So why buy it? Well, in my case, I have (had) to use some progs that simply do not run in code weavers. So that leaves me with a choice - create a new partition, install windows and reboot everytime I wanted to use a neural network prog, or install win4lin.

On my machine, it boots in 3 seconds, has no noticable cpu or RAM use and progs run faster than when I did dual boot, etc, but now that I don't need it, I don't select the option in the kernel.

So, in many peoples opinion (and I was genuinly surprised how many downloads of the win4lin patch I got) it is still very much worth it.

It is difficult to remember, especially when immersed in great work such as Gentoo, that 96% of the planet use windows. That means, like it or not, that occasionally one must use Microsoft OS based progs. What would you do, for example, if you have a prog from university that only ran in windows? Not use it and fail university? Reboot every time you needed it and miss linux time? Drive to university every time you needed it to use one of their computers?

Meh, the important thing is you got your 1g patch and I got to rant, lol

Extremely well said Mr Onion. The only reason why I use Win4Lin is because I need Photoshop. Some might say Gimp works just fine but to me, GIMP is literally gimped! I haven't bought Win4lin yet but I will asap as I use it on a daily basis, without Netraverse's hard work, I wouldn't be able to pay off my bills.

Sure I can use windows instead but I love my linux desktop, Win4lin gives us the opportunity to bridge that gap and man, do I love them for creating Win4lin! Sometimes I don't even realise I have win4lin opened because it uses so little space (ram mainly), what more can I ask for?

Perhaps seppe, maybe we can make good use of the USE flags next time around? I mean Win4lin itself isn't too hard to make a custom patch so we can maybe use USE flags in these circumstances.

BTW, not many kernels have win4lin now. Nitro will appeal to those that needs it's functionality.

[Merlin-TC]

I also think there there is still something wrong with the RAM usage.
I have one gig as well and the harddrive loads like crazy even though my swap seems untouched now.

Seems like not much is kept in the memory though so it has to be reloaded all the time.

[miseiler]

I also think there there is still something wrong with the RAM usage.
I have one gig as well and the harddrive loads like crazy even though my swap seems untouched now.

Seems like not much is kept in the memory though so it has to be reloaded all the time.

This is actually what the mapped_watermark patches are *supposed* to be doing. This behaviour can be adjusted using the following command (from Con's site):

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Mapped watermark??
 This readjusts the way memory is evicted by lightly removing cached ram once the ram is more than 2/3 full, if less than the "mapped watermark" percent of ram is mapped ram (ie applications). The normal system is to aggresively start scanning ram once it is completely full. The benefits of this are:
 1. Allocating memory while ram is being lightly scanned is faster and cheaper than when it is being heavily scanned.
 2. There is usually some free ram which tends to speed up application startup times.
 3. Swapping is an unusual event instead of a common one if you have enough ram for your workload.
 4. It is rare for your applications to be swapped out by file cache pressure. 
 Disadvantage: Less file cache.

 The mapped watermark is configurable so a server for example might be happy to have a lower mapped percentage. The default is 66 and a server might like 33 

echo 33 > /proc/sys/vm/mapped
This removes the swappiness knob entirely and deprecates all my previous vm hacks (autoregulated swappiness, hard swappiness, kiflush). 

[tatesworld]

yes 2.6.9-rc1-mm2 is very good, sorry nitro (for now)

internet browsing is much faster, etc

only problem people will get is with nvidia-kernel failing to load, but thats fixed, do a search, replaces the ebuild

[bunder]

Hello,

Noob question here... whats with all these different kernel sources? I've only used gentoo-sources and gentoo-dev-sources before. Whats so different between dev-sources, nitro and love-sources for example?

--beugh

[Moloch]

Hello,

Noob question here... whats with all these different kernel sources? I've only used gentoo-sources and gentoo-dev-sources before. Whats so different between dev-sources, nitro and love-sources for example?

--beugh

Basically all the different kernels have patches applied to them, with the exception of vanilla sources. The different gentoo-sources all have various patches applied the gentoo devs feel will help improve the kernel.

The sources you find on these forums are the same concept. Instead of mantained by the gentoo devs these are maintained by gentoo users. They are posted here because they don't make it to the portage tree. Usually the user created ones are aimed at speed increase or certain in progress stuff, like drivers or new filesystems. But can potentially result in an unstable kernel. You must likely do not want to run these kernels unless you have some hardware that does not exist in the gentoo kernel or if you feel comfortable playing with kernels and know linux overall fairly well.

There is probably a better explanation somewhere on the forums.

Anybody feel free to correct/add to my explantation.

[Isaiah]

I just compiled 2.6.9-rc1-mm2 and is running no problems....

I get the dreaded "irq 12: nobody cared!" with or without "pci=routeirq" on mm2 - it's still nitro6 here for truly

[Naughtyus]

Very nice patchset - thank you for your work

I esp. needed something with both Reiser4 and Win4Lin