xorg - Monitor Help!

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solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:02 am

Hi,

i have a 21" nokia moniter and first i used:

Xorg -configure

and it jst used default monitor and default video card then i ran the manual setup and i got it to detect my video card but since my monitor is big i need 1600x1200 resolution and in the xorg docs it says edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf changed "Modes" but in my xorg.conf under Section "Screen" there is not modes.

if some1 can help me in an easier way i want to run the manual setup again and it asks for 3 things identifier, Vendor, Model.

i kno the vendor is nokia and the model is 445XiPlus what do i put down for the identier because if i leave it deafault it shows "Screen0" as the identifier. so basically i need help in makin xorg recognize my monitor and change the resolution because i have a big monitor and also if some1 can tell me what horizontal and vertical refresh rates would be good for this monitor i would really appriciate it.

if you need more info plz post and i'll b glad to post ne info that you might need...thanx in advance

Thanx
$oLjA

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:18 am

doesn't any1 know?

PLZZZZZZZZZZZ HELP ME !

Thanx
$oLjA

Gotterdammerung · Post by **Gotterdammerung** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:26 am

I edited my xorg.conf manually, and this part you are asking about looks like this:

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Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  "Samsung SyncMaster 500b"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    HorizSync   31.5 - 82.0

#    HorizSync	30-64         # multisync
#    HorizSync	31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies
#    HorizSync	15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    VertRefresh 40-150

EndSection

My current monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 793DF and it still works just fine. So, I'd sugest you to give a try on this conf.

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:52 am

your monitor is 21" too ?

jst want to make sure bcuz dats my whole point to get the resolution rite.

Thanx for your reply
$oLjA

Gotterdammerung · Post by **Gotterdammerung** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:05 am

solja wrote:your monitor is 21" too ?

jst want to make sure bcuz dats my whole point to get the resolution rite.

Thanx for your reply
$oLjA

Nope, it's just 17''.

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:11 am

well that wouldn't help fix the problem.....

i stated two problems:

* i need to set my resolution for a 21 monitor - can some1 tell me the correct settings.

* need help with adding the monitor to xorg for ex for manufacturer i put Nokia and for model i put down 445XiPlus what do i put for vendor ?...Nokia ?

i jst need to get xorg to recognize my monitor and set the resolution.

Thanx for the reply (i hope this is clear enuff about wat im asking

)

Thanx
$oLjA

brettlpb · Post by **brettlpb** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:10 am

Refresh rate doesn't have anything to do with the size of the montor.

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:29 am

can check mine and see whats wrong wit this....the resolution is really really big and going way out of the screen:

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# **************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
      Identifier        "Standard VGA"
      VendorName  "Unknown"
      BoardName    "Unknown"


# Chipset     "generic"

    Driver      "vga"

    BusID      "PCI:0:10:0"

    VideoRam 64

    Clocks     25.2 28.2 


Section "Monitor" 

    Identifier  "Nokia 445XiPlus" 

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. 
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a 
# comma separated list of ranges of values. 
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S 
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. 

    HorizSync   31.5 - 79.0 

#    HorizSync   30-64         # multisync 
#    HorizSync   31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies 
#    HorizSync   15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies 

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. 
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a 
# comma separated list of ranges of values. 
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S 
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. 

    VertRefresh 40-150 

EndSection 

Section "Screen"

           Identifier "Screen 1"
           Device    "Asus, Nvidia, Geforce Mx 440"
           Monitor   "Nokia 445XiPlus"
           DefaultDepth 8

Subsection "Display"
       Depth         24
       Modes         "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
       ViewPort       0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
       Depth         16
       Modes         "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
       ViewPort       0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
       Depth         24
       Modes         "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
       ViewPort       0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

could it be that it didn't detect my device right ?
i can't get this Identifier, Vendor, Model thing rite....help

thanx in advance
$oLjA

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:42 am

brettlpb wrote:Refresh rate doesn't have anything to do with the size of the montor.

yes i kno that...the reason i gave my "monitor size" wuz to be more specific and to be exact on how much resolution i wanted....can i get some HELP rather than telling me what is what and tryin to make me feel stupid....nice try tho

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:48 am

Underneath your Modes line, try adding this:

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Virtual   1280 1024

fctk · Post by **fctk** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:20 am

@ solja
first of all you should find the specs for your monitor (google).
then you could use amlc http://delenn.tky.hut.fi/amlc/ to set refresh rates, size etc...

Deathwing00 · Post by **Deathwing00** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:00 pm

Moved from Installing Gentoo.

dewke · Post by **dewke** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:47 pm

solja wrote:
brettlpb wrote:Refresh rate doesn't have anything to do with the size of the montor.
yes i kno that...the reason i gave my "monitor size" wuz to be more specific and to be exact on how much resolution i wanted....can i get some HELP rather than telling me what is what and tryin to make me feel stupid....nice try tho

to get 1600x1200 you need to set the refresh rates for your monitor like so (do not use these values, these are for *MY* display. The proper HorizSync and VertRefresh can be found from Nokia's web site for your monitor:

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Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	HorizSync    28-90
	VertRefresh  57-85
	Option       "dpms"
EndSection

You set the actual resolution in the screen section like so (make sure you reference the proper screen/device etc...):

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	SubSection "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	DefaultDepth	16
        
    Section "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
		Modes	"1600x1200"
    EndSubSection

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:29 pm

ok i found out my monitor specs:

HorizSync: 30.0-110.0
VertRefresh: 50.0-150.0
Max Resolution: 1600 x 1280
Depth: 21.2 in
Dot Pitch: 0.28mm

i added that to the above HorizSync and the VertRefresh and for defaultdepth i put 21 now i get an error when i startx sayin:

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Using vt 7
(EE) VGA(0) : Driver can't support depth 24 
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

i dunt kno y it says can't support depth 24 when i put defaultdepth 21 plz help im gettin sick of this $@#* !

the last monitor i had was a 17" and i configured it without any errors.

$oLjA

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:37 pm

Hmm.. it might be your video card driver. You have this in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file:

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    Driver      "vga"

I'm fairly sure you don't want that... what is your graphics card?

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:40 pm

i have a Asus Geforce4 MX440 chipset Nvidia ofcourse

Thanx for your reply
$oLjA

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:43 pm

Try emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx, then modprobe nvidia. (If you haven't done this already....)

Then change the Driver line so it says:

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    Driver      "nvidia"

That might go a long way towards helping.

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:53 pm

when i modprobe nvidia i get this error:

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FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.8-gentoo/video/nvidia.kno): Invalid module format

wat do i do now?

Thanx
$oLjA

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:54 pm

Are you sure your /usr/src/linux symlink is pointing to the kernel you're using? It sounds like the module was built for a different kernel...

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:01 pm

ok i did ls -l /usr/src/linux and this is the output:

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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Aug 15 22:11 /usr/src/linux -> linux-2.6.8-gentoo

i think thats the problem...lol rite ?

isn't it suppose to be /usr/src/linux/linux-2.6.8-gentoo ?

Thanx
$oLjA

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:05 pm

No, that looks right. I don't know why the module wouldn't load though....

Anyway, try using the "nv" driver instead for now. You won't have to emerge anything for that, and it should support your card better than the vga driver...

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:10 pm

nope same error as b4

i dunt kno y it says driver can't support depth 24 when i set the defaultdepth to 21 because my monitor supports 21.2 in depth.

when i run the auto detect xorg.conf it starts x but den the resolution is soooo big it goes outa da screen.

$oLjA

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:23 pm

Hmm. Out of interest, did you try the virtuals line I posted about half a page ago?

solja · Post by **solja** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:05 pm

Maedhros wrote:Hmm. Out of interest, did you try the virtuals line I posted about half a page ago?

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Subsection "Display" 
       Depth         24 
       Modes         "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" 
       Virtual          1280 1024
       ViewPort       0 0 
EndSubsection 
Subsection "Display" 
       Depth         16 
       Modes         "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
       Virtual          1280 1024 
       ViewPort       0 0 
EndSubsection 
Subsection "Display" 
       Depth         24 
       Modes         "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
       Virtual          1280 1024 
       ViewPort       0 0 
EndSubsection 
EndSection

so should it look something like this ?

$oLjA

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:18 pm

Yup.... I have no idea if it'll work, but there's always a chance!