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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Nforce2 sound how to??!?!?![Solved] Reply with quote

Hi, im totaly confused on how to get my sound to work, ive emerged alsa-drivers and added intel_8x0 i think it is too my /etc/make.conf, im not sure if im doing this right and if i ahve what to do next can someone please help me im a gentoo noob.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ALSA guide is excellent. Have you read it?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml

What kernel are you using?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im using the 2.6.9 kernel and tryed that doc to try set it up, im finding it hard to follow, is intel8x0 right, in slackware is just run alsamixer then save the settings. I get lost whre it starts to talk about configuring alsa and says if using genkernel etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nz_boy_2004 wrote:
im using the 2.6.9 kernel and tryed that doc to try set it up, im finding it hard to follow, is intel8x0 right, in slackware is just run alsamixer then save the settings. I get lost whre it starts to talk about configuring alsa and says if using genkernel etc.


So you really haven't gotten that far... Ok... Then let's start from the basics..

Did you use genkernel? If not, how did you implement ALSA (if you have thus far)? The choices are: using the alsa driver in the kernel (built-in OR as modules) OR did you "emerge alsa-driver"?

If you did use genkernel, then you're most likely going to use the alsa drivers in the kernel as opposed to installing the autonomous alsa-driver package.

You might want to post the relevant sound card support information from /usr/src/linux/.config (the kernel config file).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the nforce2 chipset, the intel8x0 is the correct alsa driver.

I got mine working by manually configuring my kernel with alsa support, OSS emulation/support, and the intel8x0 alsa driver built in.


There is a gotcha with the intel8x0 drivers, they do not support hardware mixing, hardware mixing is what allows two applications play sound at the same time. With out that, one app will block sound output until it is done. Its frustrating and made me go out and buy a sb live!...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonnevers wrote:
for the nforce2 chipset, the intel8x0 is the correct alsa driver.

I got mine working by manually configuring my kernel with alsa support, OSS emulation/support, and the intel8x0 alsa driver built in.


There is a gotcha with the intel8x0 drivers, they do not support hardware mixing, hardware mixing is what allows two applications play sound at the same time. With out that, one app will block sound output until it is done. Its frustrating and made me go out and buy a sb live!...


Yeap. I have the same board as the author of this thread. The lack of mixing with the onboard sound chip is what drove me to buy an sb live. They are cheap now and worth every penny!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, ill have alook for one of those, im not using genkernel and have emerged the drivers.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

those cards are dead cheap around 20 nzd, but id still ike to try and get my sound working as is and save myself 20 bucks ;)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my kernel .config under alsa it jsut says =M or not set becide everything
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:56 am    Post subject: nForce2 (Shuttle) Alsa HowTo Reply with quote

When I recompile the kernel for my nForce2 box, I make sure the desired driver is marked Y not M. Modules sometimes have issues loading so it is best to have the sound driver integrated whenever possible.

To check that your alsa works after recompiling, run alsamixer. Alsamixer can be obtained with
Code:
emerge alsa-utils


You might want to create an entry in your init scripts for alsactl. If you want to load stored alsa settings specified from alsamixer on reboots you must run
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alsactl restore
To store the configuration, type
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alsactl store

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I HAVE SOUND!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:33 am    Post subject: Good! Reply with quote

YAY!!! Have fun!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't there any way to enable hardware mixing on nforce2 ? I want to be able to run more than one sound thing at once :(
also how do you enable 4 channel surround ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lokhor wrote:
isn't there any way to enable hardware mixing on nforce2 ? I want to be able to run more than one sound thing at once :(
also how do you enable 4 channel surround ?


I've heard of people having good results using dmix with the nforce2 sound system. To be honest I know very little about dmix besides that it isn't a full blown sound server like arts or esd.

try this link:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix#intel8x0_audio_card_integrated_on_nforce2_motherboards
it is specific to gentoo, dmix, and has a subsection that is just about enabling it for the intel8x0 driver and nforce2.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Full Duplex Sound Reply with quote

Try out ESound. It can do multiple sounds at once. It is a sound server and works with alsa. I can hear kde sounds and play xmms at the same time. Hardware mixing is in the kernel/driver level. If you get hardware sound working natively, the sound servers should be able to output directly through it with 4+ channels.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use the OSS driver provided by nvidia get hardware mixing on Nforce2 boards. The driver currently in portage (nforce-audio-1.0.0261) is the old version which sucked, but the newer nforce-audio-1.0.0292 actually works pretty well. I've been using it for a few months without many issues (for some reason is flakes out sometimes if you don't use coldplug.) You'll have to grab the ebuild from bugzilla though (or install it manually using the official nvidia installer.)

The official driver gives you full hardware mixing without any further configuration plus I think it enables all the SPDIF outputs and surround sound too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Alsa-Oss Emulation Reply with quote

In that case, Alsa-Oss emulation might be an option.
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