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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:46 am    Post subject: ATI vs NVidia (oh boy) Reply with quote

I Plan on getting a new video card for my system, and was wondering what would you folks recommend.

I want a vid. card with the most simple to install drivers(i would give up on "easy" for "stability/performance", and that would have the best performance for a dual display setup, and Video out.

I have used an NVidia before, but it was an older card and remember only being able to use dual-display on X, and lots or proprietary drivers. The ATI I have recently accquired is giving me hell! Since I will not be able to do benchmarks, I was wondering if anyone would recommend either of the 2?

If I could use dual display on CLI that would be awesome! Is it possible? with which card?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about dual dispaly on the terminal... how would you tell the PC which window you were typing in? Although maybe someone's figured out a way!

I got X working great using Xinerama and an ATI Radeon 9700 pro. It took a lot of documentation-reading though.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...I was doing a lspci on my radeon 9700Se and it shows as being 2 diffrent Vid. cards....

So...If you have the certain tty directed to whatever "video card" you want it to go...it will be displayed there...
only usefull app. i see on this is to have on one monitor something like monitors, logs, or compiling a program on one screen while doing something else on another...

Or...reading a manual on one...while typing on another...it would be cool make it work just for the sake of it though ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe I just use x terminals!

I had dual head working here at work (I work in a University) but then the systems people put Fedora on my machine instead of Gentoo (they changed their mind about me having root :-) and now the dual head doesn't work :-(
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an NVIDIA, though, if I were to buy a new card it would defintely be an ATI. ATI's cards blow away NVIDIA. ATI are releasing drivers ever 2 months for Linux. Check out ATI's Linux fourms.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay, they are releasing drivers every freaking second... and then? Do you have any problem with current NVidia drivers? Do you have low performance? Common man... If I was to choose my gfx card by driver update frequency, firstly, I'd still be running windows...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jcc wrote:
okay, they are releasing drivers every freaking second... and then? Do you have any problem with current NVidia drivers? Do you have low performance? Common man... If I was to choose my gfx card by driver update frequency, firstly, I'd still be running windows...


Well...if they are releasing new drivers it means they are activelly developing it...which IS a good thing, mainly in linux when a lot of OEMs just release a driver and let it sit....

ATI is definetly a good chice in linux...I guess i just have a lot to read for the next couple months(good thing it's winter)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe both ati and nvidia are good.

ati had less linux support a while back,
but they seem to be catching up or
have caught up already.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would still go for nvidia, they still have far better drivers than ati for linux: much better performance and good dualhead and tv-out support (and more important: easy to setup)

while using windows it maybe interesting to buy an ati card, in linux ati still doesnt come near nvidia.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what benchmarks I can remember nvidia seems to do quite a bit better than ati on opengl apps/games (this is reviews on windows). Since opengl is the 3d acceleration you probably will be using in Gentoo, I would go for nvidia. Nvidia also has a longer history with drivers for linux. What I really want is of course an opensourced driver, but I don't see that ati is more likely to provide for this than nvidia.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

personaly id wait till after xmas unless you really have an app that needs it its not as if doom3 or hl2 are going to be out this side of febuary and almost every other game ive played ran on a geforce2mx as most of the best ones till use the quake3 engine. for ease of use nvidia has my money and next year they may have a good card based on the next chipset
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