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jankom
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 Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:35 pm Post subject: Apache Open Office - SOLVED |
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I realize that Gentoo decided to include the Oracle flavor of StartOffice, called LibreOffice in Portsage, yet I prefer the simpler, less frequently updated Apache flavor, called OpenOffice. Main reasons are very long compile at each update and too much sophistication - I prefer KISS.
I managed to install the rpm packaged binaries from OpenOffice web site, and it has been working flawlessly on my Gentoo desktop machine. I installed the same on my Mint linux laptop, but it crashes when using forms in the "base" program. All others (Word, etc.) work on both Gentoo and Mint. I surmize that the problem is with the windowing part of the OO base.
Recently I switched my web browser from epiphany to falkon. Too much frustration with epiphany, and falkon is great! (Except that compile time was two days) I removed epiphany and all its related dependencies because I like a clean, not bloated system.
Now the PROBLEM and the reason I seek help from this Forum:
OpenOffice (any of its components) cannot start | Code: | janos@andraslinux ~ $ openoffice4
no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
janos@andraslinux ~ $
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I think this is the same problem why Linux Mint crashes with OO base: something has to do with "windowing system"
So even though this topic is about a non-Gentoo program it highlights an X11 or windowing or gui situetion.
Respectfully submitted,
jankom
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wjb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:21 am Post subject: |
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LibreOffice is definitely not Oracle. LibreOffice was forked when Oracle acquired OpenOffice. Oracle did nothing with OpenOffice before eventually tossing it over the fence to Apache where nothing much has happened. Or something like that.
There's an ebuild for OpenOffice (bin) available in the guru repository if you really want. |
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asturm
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| ...but there is also a libreoffice-bin available in ::gentoo. |
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jankom
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:22 pm Post subject: Thank you all for posting |
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@rab0171610 | Quote: | | What does changing your browser have to do with any of this? |
I don't know, but that was the only thing happened when I noticed that I could not open an .odt file. Then I tried the command "openoffice4" and got the no suitable windowing... message.
This morning I checked dependencies of epiphany and falkon, and noticed that falkon showed nothing, but | Code: | janos@andraslinux ~ $ emerge -p epiphany
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 41.63 s.
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXinerama-1.1.5 USE="-doc" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
[ebuild N ] gui-libs/gtk-4.10.4 USE="X cups introspection (-aqua) -broadway -cloudproviders -colord -examples (-ffmpeg) -gstreamer -sysprof -test (-vulkan) -wayland" CPU_FLAGS_X86="-f16c"
[ebuild N ] gui-libs/libadwaita-1.3.3 USE="introspection vala -test"
[ebuild NS ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.4-r600 [2.40.4-r410]
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libportal-0.6 USE="gtk introspection qt5 vala -gtk-doc -test"
[ebuild NS ] app-crypt/gcr-4.1.0 [3.41.1-r2]
[ebuild N ] www-client/epiphany-44.2 USE="-test"
janos@andraslinux ~ $
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When I deselected (purged completely) epiphany all these must have been eliminated. In fact | Code: | janos@andraslinux ~ $ qlist -IRv | grep gtk
dev-cpp/gtkmm-3.24.7::gentoo
dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.33.2::gentoo
dev-util/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.24.31::gentoo
net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.4-r410::gentoo
x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.38::gentoo
x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.33-r3::gentoo
x11-themes/gtk-engines-adwaita-3.28::gentoo
janos@andraslinux ~ $
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shows that gui-libs/gtk is now not installed. Could this be the problem? I'll try that and will report later - jankom | Quote: | | Did you search for that error message |
Yes, and found the SELinux reference - I do not have SElinux as far as I know, found the libXt and livXrender reference as well, tried them without any success. | Quote: | | RPM version when using the app-office/openoffice-bin |
No, I downloaded from http://www.openoffice.org/download/ selecting the rpm version.
@wjb | Quote: | | LibreOffice is definitely not Oracle |
Sorry, my misunderstanding of the timeline.https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/libreoffice-timeline/ |
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rab0171610
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, that clears things up. Do not download the rpm version yourself. Use the overlay version from guru if you must. But in my opinion, I agree with Asturn that you should just use libreoffice-bin. There are many reasons, with one being it is in the Gentoo repo (which means you benefit from dependency resolution) and another being it is an active project with better support. I will leave my personal opinions about the principal players in openoffice/libreoffice debacle out of it. |
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jankom
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:23 pm Post subject: Solved |
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Yes, it was a dependency issue.Since I did not use the overlay version from guru removing epiphany deleted the gui-gtk package causing "lack of windowing". Epiphany was installed before I deselected LibreOffice and installed AOO from their web site, rpm version. So when I switched web browser from epiphany to falcon AOO died. I assume a similar dependency issue causes AOO to crash on my Mint linux laptop when doing Forms in Base.
Gentoo -Portage is innocent - and I have learned something. In the debugging process I compared ooutputs of eselect -c --world with a saved copy of the same command there was no difference. Apparently eselect -c only shows installed programs without corollary support files (dependencies, libs, etc). Only comparing emerge -p <package> revealed the dependencies, and qlist -IRv | grep pointed out the installation difference between the two web browsers.
Where can I find the "overlay version from guru"? I clicked on the gentoo-mirror/guru, but could not find OpenOffice.
Finally my one-cent: - I have been using StarOffice for the past 30 years, and I prefer smple, functionality. Don't need the latest updates trying to keep up with the Vindooz and Apps world. I use nano and vim for simple thiings, and like to look under the hood, fix my own car (but not anymore when everything is chip controlled).
Thanks again and cheers!
jankom |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| According to various LWN.net articles, Apache OpenOffice maintenance is in a sad state. I would not use it to open any document of even slightly questionable provenance.Those are just what I could find quickly. |
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jankom
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:55 am Post subject: Solved |
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| Thanks again. I'll mark this topic closed - jankom |
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