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bunder
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thewtex
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I just finished a fresh install, and it was quite a pain. Wish I had known about drobbins funtoo.org stages before I started. It took a couple of days instead of a couple of hours as it should have. 
For people trying to upgrade from 2007.0 be aware of the following problem: you may get a warning when trying to upgrade that setarch is blocking util-linux. You can unmerge setarch since util-linux provides the same functionality per this post--
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-578534-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-setarch.html |
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d2_racing
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| thewtex wrote: | | I just finished a fresh install, and it was quite a pain. Wish I had known about drobbins funtoo.org stages before I started. It took a couple of days instead of a couple of hours as it should have. |
Yeah, one of my friends installed Gentoo last night with the Stage 3 from drobbins and everything went fine  |
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Old School
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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I installed it a few weeks ago without a hitch. | Code: | ~ $ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/x86/dev/2007.1, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 i686) |
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steveL
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Well I just did a fresh install from 2007.0 last week (amd64) and it went without a hitch, mainly cos I used update which handles the expat thing automatically and also picks up on other revdeps if the ebuild issues a "revdep-rebuild somelib.so" e{warn,log,info}. It picked up libintl.so.7 or something, that I remember.
TBH I prefer that simply cos much more of my system was rebuilt with my CFLAGS. I couldn't do linux-headers and glibc til I updated kernel, but as soon as python got recompiled, portage sped up, and gcc recompiling made the process go a helluva lot quicker too. EM64T core2 duo with Gentoo rocks! :D |
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d2_racing
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| old school wrote: | I installed it a few weeks ago without a hitch. | Code: | ~ $ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/x86/dev/2007.1, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 i686) |
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Are you sure that you are not playing with fire... using the dev/2007.1 profile is maybe risky...
Do you have any problems right now ? |
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morbid
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| Since about 2006, I just started using RIP instead of the gentoo-minimal cd's. RIP has many releases a year, so it's hardware support is usually current. Nothing against the Gentoo install cd's, but I don't like the gui "helper" installers (which is why I don't use redhat (or something)). So, with the gentoo-minimal cd's, I'd also have to download the latest stage1 tarball. Since I've always liked RIP for maintenance at home and at work, I just stopped bothering with burning another cd (gentoo-minimal). I just boot RIP, then (as before) download the stage1 and continue with the Gentoo install doc. |
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Doogman
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| Does RIP have a SMP kernel yet? |
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Old School
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| d2_racing wrote: | | old school wrote: | I installed it a few weeks ago without a hitch. | Code: | ~ $ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/x86/dev/2007.1, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 i686) |
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Are you sure that you are not playing with fire... using the dev/2007.1 profile is maybe risky...
Do you have any problems right now ? |
Stable as a rock | Code: | emerge --info
Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/x86/dev/2007.1, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 i686)
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System uname: 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 i686 AMD Athlon(tm)
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:00:04 +0000
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17-r1
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r6
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.10-r5
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.18.1-r2
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r1
sys-devel/automake: 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.24
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="ccache distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/"
LANG="en_US"
LC_ALL="en_US"
LINGUAS="en"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="3dnow X a52 aac aalib acl aim alsa apm asf audiofile bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 calendar cddb cdinstall cdparanoia cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dga dri dts dvb dvd dvdnav dvdr dvdread encode esd fbcon ffmpeg firefox flac foomaticdb fortran ftp gdbm gif gphoto2 gpm gstreamer hal iconv icq ieee1394 imagemagick imlib ipod ipv6 isdnlog jack java javascript jpeg kde kdexdeltas libwww live lm_sensors mad midi mmx mmx2 mng mp3 mpeg mplayer msn mudflap musicbrainz nas ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ogg opengl openmp oscar oss pam pcre pdf perl png pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime readline real reflection samba sdl session spell spl sse sse2 ssl svga tcpd theora tiff tk truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb v4l2 vcd videos vim-syntax vorbis win32codecs wmf x86 xcomposite xine xml2 xorg xv xvid yahoo zlib" ALSA_CARDS="intel8x0" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="en" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS |
| drobbins wrote: | | These stages are clean Gentoo builds using a snapshot of the official Portage tree. x86 and i686 are using the 2007.1 profile whereas amd64 is using the 2007.0 profile. No overlays - just pure Gentoo. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| thewtex wrote: | | I just finished a fresh install, and it was quite a pain. Wish I had known about drobbins funtoo.org stages before I started. It took a couple of days instead of a couple of hours as it should have. |
That doesn't make sense to me at all...did you install a bunch of stuff before syncing and updating or something? I recently did an 2007.0 install on an old Thinkpad (700 Mhz P3) and it didn't take anywhere near that long....maybe a day or so.
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Kensai
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Well, in the topic of live systems to use for the installation of Gentoo, I might recomment system rescue cd. It is based on Gentoo and provides all its core tools. I really have learned to appreciate it as a valuable tool when an emergency hits your computer.  I have changed my hardware, so I need to reinstall, and I will give this a try maybe tomorrow.
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Kollin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| old school wrote: | I installed it a few weeks ago without a hitch. | Code: | ~ $ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/x86/dev/2007.1, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 i686) |
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I can`t find this profile on amd64 
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boou32
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: New gentoo release |
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| Spring is a great season to release Gentoo 2008 ( IT IS THE SEASON OF REBIRTH) |
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Sadako
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Yeah, just a pity spring is still two months away.
Anyway, what does it matter?
Gentoo is about as versionless as an operating system can get, the only difference is with the livecds which aren't even required to install in the first place.
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psomas
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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same discussion again... 
there's already a thread about the canceled 2007.1 release, and the forthcoming 2008.0...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: Re: New gentoo release |
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| boou32 wrote: | | Spring is a great season to release Gentoo 2008 ( IT IS THE SEASON OF REBIRTH) |
That is biased in so many ways
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merged above post here.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming that DRobbins does come back in some capacity would his funtoo stageballs be used for the x86 arch?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| Naib wrote: | | Assuming that DRobbins does come back in some capacity would his funtoo stageballs be used for the x86 arch? |
I doubt that, there aren't any bonus you'd get going either way. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| Naib wrote: | | Assuming that DRobbins does come back in some capacity would his funtoo stageballs be used for the x86 arch? |
I don't see why we cant have weekly or even monthly stages in the /experimental section, it would make life a bit easier |
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| Hopeless wrote: | Yeah, just a pity spring is still two months away.
Anyway, what does it matter?
Gentoo is about as versionless as an operating system can get, the only difference is with the livecds which aren't even required to install in the first place. |
Yeah, and we have to use non-official livecds to install gentoo on a eg. jmicron-stuffed brand new mobos. Uncool. |
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psomas
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| dentharg wrote: | | Hopeless wrote: | Yeah, just a pity spring is still two months away.
Anyway, what does it matter?
Gentoo is about as versionless as an operating system can get, the only difference is with the livecds which aren't even required to install in the first place. |
Yeah, and we have to use non-official livecds to install gentoo on a eg. jmicron-stuffed brand new mobos. Uncool. |
totally agree...
it's not impossible to install gentoo with non-offcicial livecds, but i think it's much better to do it through the official gentoo install cd...
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| psomas wrote: | | dentharg wrote: | | Hopeless wrote: | Yeah, just a pity spring is still two months away.
Anyway, what does it matter?
Gentoo is about as versionless as an operating system can get, the only difference is with the livecds which aren't even required to install in the first place. |
Yeah, and we have to use non-official livecds to install gentoo on a eg. jmicron-stuffed brand new mobos. Uncool. |
totally agree...
it's not impossible to install gentoo with non-offcicial livecds, but i think it's much better to do it through the official gentoo install cd... |
Before my most recent install, I had always used the official Gentoo cd's... and the installation gui.
Wayyyy more fun to do it manually 
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| Suicidal wrote: | | Naib wrote: | | Assuming that DRobbins does come back in some capacity would his funtoo stageballs be used for the x86 arch? |
I don't see why we cant have weekly or even monthly stages in the /experimental section, it would make life a bit easier |
I doubt it. They'd have to find someone interested in doing them - which is the reason we haven't had even 3rd party ones until drobbins started doing his - and I doubt he'll have enough time if he takes control of Gentoo. |
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