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Gentoo: 10 years compiling - Testers for liveDVD enter here

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:35 am
by likewhoa
It's about that time and since we have been compiling for almost 10 years, we have created a LiveDVD to show our accomplishments over the years. This LiveDVD not only includes the latest and greatest that the portage tree has to offer, it's also a Hybrid DVD which can be booted of any removable device. We have included a large set of packages, desktop environments and window managers in this 10.0 release.

I am posting this thread so YOU the user community can have a first look at this pre-release, which is schedule to be release before the 10th year anniversary. Enjoy it and report back any issues. Users are advised to test the images in virtualbox or similar before they actually burn it to an optical disc. The recommended way is to copy the iso data to a usb stick or hard drive. (see below)

Beta testers can help with:
  • Report packages that don't work
  • Test other WM/DE other than KDE (default)
  • Test the gentoo64 optional kernel (defaults to 32bit gentoo)
  • Report suggestions for new packages (If they comply with re-distribution, they could be added.. no promises)
Instructions on how to boot from usb stick
  • Download iso located livedvd-x86-amd64-32ul-10.1
  • Insert your usb or any removable device. It can even boot of a hard drive ;)
  • dd if=image.iso of=/dev/<DEVICE> # Do not point to a partition.
ISO Sources:
Image: livedvd-x86-amd64-32ul-10.1
Image:livedvd-amd64-multilib-10.1
Official Discussion at #gentoo-ten on freenode
Tracker BUG at https://bugs.gentoo.org/281827
Complete package list: http://omploader.org/vMmdodw Updated 20091001

[edit]Stickied thread - Jorge (jmbsvicetto)[/edit]
Unstuck, since this thread was for pre-release testing. --timeBandit

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:25 pm
by comprookie2000
If you find a bug during testing please report it here;
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286589

The Gentoo Mirrors have the latest 10.1
Downloads
Gentoo Ten Live DVD 10.1 x86
Gentoo Ten Live DVD 10.1 amd64

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:39 pm
by ArneBab
That's a great idea! Many thanks for taking it up!

... seems like a great fit that my Gentoo on USB-stick got data corruption -> the filesystem wants to be remade and filled with Gentoo 10 :)

Best wishes,
Arne, excited to try the DVD

NEW x86 & x86_64 liveDVD is a major PLUS ....

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:35 pm
by genblood
Hi,

I just downloaded the new livedvd image and burnt it to
a blank dvd ... I just put the dvd in my windows system and
rebooted. It booted up with no issues and I'm trying all the apps
and stuff on the image.

I only see one major issue with this release. You need to install
Adobe flash 10. If flash was added IMO .. that would added to the
overall feel of Gentoo ...

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:06 am
by desultory
Merged the preceding post.

Re: NEW x86 & x86_64 liveDVD is a major PLUS ....

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:42 am
by likewhoa
genblood wrote:Hi,

I just downloaded the new livedvd image and burnt it to
a blank dvd ... I just put the dvd in my windows system and
rebooted. It booted up with no issues and I'm trying all the apps
and stuff on the image.

I only see one major issue with this release. You need to install
Adobe flash 10. If flash was added IMO .. that would added to the
overall feel of Gentoo ...
not sure if we can redistribute adobe flash. I will look into it.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:36 am
by Strowi
about flash redistribution...
I recently tested the kubuntu-livecd with kde3.5. Apparently they had a little (k)dialog which would download + install flash to the correct location. This could be an alternative to putting flash on the dvd.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:08 pm
by ssivil
I downloaded and burnt livedvd-x86-x86_64-10.0.iso fine. However I have two problems.

First, when the livedvd boots, it does not recognize either my keyboard or mouse. I have a Logitech USB wireless keyboard/mouse. This forces me to manually shut down my PC. I tried rebooting using the slow usb option, but that too fails.

Lastly, when I tried to report a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org/281827, Firefox 3.5.3 tells me: This Connection is Untrusted.

Thank you!

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:13 pm
by $moke
So far so good, for me works fine. I will continue testing.
Great job, the world needed that live dvd!!!

catalyst specs for 10.0

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:14 pm
by Kirill Cherniy
Is it possible to publish catalyst specs that are used to create livedvd?
I just want to build ~amd64 for own use but haven't yet understood how to do that.

KDE does not start on Dell Inspiron 6400

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:23 pm
by somethingelse
Hello. I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop with a Core2 Duo 2060 processor. I tried to run the x86 x86_64 LiveDVD; everything was loading ok, it detected the intigrated intel video card and set the x11-xorg-gl renderer but when it got to loading kde it just hangs at a blank screen with a solid cursor in the top left corner. There is no error message, I'm unable to switch tty's or anything of that nature, the system is completely frozen so I can't get at the logs.

I know there is no hardware issues on the machine since I run XP on it all the time without any issues. Any thoughts?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:36 pm
by comprookie2000
somethingelse
Try booting with gentoo64

Re: catalyst specs for 10.0

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:38 pm
by solar
Kirill Cherniy wrote:Is it possible to publish catalyst specs that are used to create livedvd?
The specs, support files, etc are in svn and can be found at http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/re ... ases/10.0/

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:18 pm
by ArneBab
Is there a chance of also publishing a ppc version?

GNU/Linux distros for old Macs are quite hard to find, and Gentoo runs flawlessly on my old ppc iMac.

Re: KDE does not start on Dell Inspiron 6400

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:50 pm
by likewhoa
somethingelse wrote:Hello. I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop with a Core2 Duo 2060 processor. I tried to run the x86 x86_64 LiveDVD; everything was loading ok, it detected the intigrated intel video card and set the x11-xorg-gl renderer but when it got to loading kde it just hangs at a blank screen with a solid cursor in the top left corner. There is no error message, I'm unable to switch tty's or anything of that nature, the system is completely frozen so I can't get at the logs.

I know there is no hardware issues on the machine since I run XP on it all the time without any issues. Any thoughts?
make sure you are using the latest iso.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:51 pm
by likewhoa
ArneBab wrote:Is there a chance of also publishing a ppc version?

GNU/Linux distros for old Macs are quite hard to find, and Gentoo runs flawlessly on my old ppc iMac.
sorry only x86/amd64 on this release but it doesn't mean later we won't make a ppc version

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:15 am
by poopix
This may seem like a stupid question, but whats the root password? I want to manage my partitions but I can't do it without the root pass.

I tried 'root' because I thought I remember that working for other live cds, but it didn't work :(

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:18 am
by comprookie2000
Just sudo to root and create one if you want;

Code: Select all

sudo su
passwd 

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:19 am
by poopix
comprookie2000 wrote:Just sudo to root and create one if you want;

Code: Select all

sudo su
passwd 
Oh, thanks. I also tried just 'su' but it asked me for my pass too so I didn't think sudo would work. Thanks very much! :)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:01 am
by ArneBab
likewhoa wrote:sorry only x86/amd64 on this release but it doesn't mean later we won't make a ppc version
No prob - I've got my own amd64 for testing.

No X - blank screen, amd64

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:08 am
by ArneBab
Hi,

I just tried the amd64 disk and it booted (if a bit slow). But when it came to "starting kdm", it stopped with a black screen with only a single grey underscore at the top left. It didn't react to any keyboard input except the kernel keys: "alt-F13-b" for reboot.

By typing I during startup to enter interactive mode and then skipping xdm, I could get to the commandline, but the backup command startx gave the same result.

I have an ATI X1300 card and I'm currently using the radeon driver. (damn, does that sound like "Hi, I'm ... and I test Gentoo LiveCD betas on old hardware?" ;) )

Should I try the x86 version?

Best wishes,
Arne

Re: NEW x86 & x86_64 liveDVD is a major PLUS ....

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:08 am
by kahlil88
genblood wrote:I only see one major issue with this release. You need to install
Adobe flash 10. If flash was added IMO .. that would added to the overall feel of Gentoo ...
I think it's weird to include non-free binary ONLY software like Adobe Flash Player in a source-based operating system. I've never felt the need to install it. How about Gnash?

Re: NEW x86 & x86_64 liveDVD is a major PLUS ....

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:11 am
by ArneBab
kahlil88 wrote:I think it's weird to include non-free binary ONLY software like Adobe Flash Player in a source-based operating system. I've never felt the need to install it. How about Gnash?
Does gnash work?
I didn't feel the need to install anything which can show flash videos since I discovered youtube-dl :)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:44 am
by Strowi
hi,

another idea...
how about including some rescue/diagnose-software like testdisk/fsarchiver etc... are included on the "system-rescue-cd" ( http://www.sysresccd.org/Detailed-packages-list )?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:44 am
by likewhoa
adobe flash and other non open source software cannot be distributed on the livedvd media for legal reasons.

ArneBab I will look into this today, I had others test with ATI and it worked but since we are using xorg-server-1.6 and no generated xorg.conf some may have issues like you, but xorg should work for most.