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When I originally made gentoo-wiki.com I had never used mediawiki before and now that I am forced to restart from scratch I am going to fix some of those mistakes, and change the base structure of the website. I am currently working on setting up a test wiki so that we can explore some of these options and get everything setup just right.

I'll post back when the scratch wiki is up and i'll take suggestions for structure. If you have any suggestions right now feel free to post.

Stuck by NeddySeagoon
Unstuck 7 Jan 2010. --timeBandit

http://scratch.gentoo-wiki.com is setup and ready to go, taking suggestions now so that they can be tested. catch me here or on IRC #gentoo-wiki on efnet. I'm hoping to have everything setup late tonight or early tomorrow morning.

Hi,
it would be nice, if possible to have some form of recognition for quality postings etc. maybe a voting system if you find a wiki page helpfull.

spikes wrote:Hi,
it would be nice, if possible to have some form of recognition for quality postings etc. maybe a voting system if you find a wiki page helpfull.

this is a point in the right direction

imo it would be even better to vote "needs still work but things are accurate", "applying this can break your system", "excellent" (something like a traffic lights voting system)

thanks, btw for your hard work, Mike

gentoo-wiki.com and gentoo-portage.com have been invaluable aides when dealing with gentoo and/or linux in general

Figuring out any namespaces on teh IRC channel right now, so far we have the "Index" namespace so far. any other suggestons?

I don't think a voting system would work on a wiki. How do you account for changes to the article? (A change could be a minor correction or a major rewrite)

AllenJB wrote:I don't think a voting system would work on a wiki. How do you account for changes to the article? (A change could be a minor correction or a major rewrite)

It's a good idea and we can make a template to allow for this in the future, I've seen a good base one one mediawiki we can use.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions

help pick out the extensions we plan to use and post the onto the scratch test wiki:

http://scratch.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Extensions

That's good news, that the wiki is back! I think you are making the right decision with implementing structural changes based on lessons learnt, now that you start more or less from scratch.

thrasher6670 wrote:on IRC #gentoo-wiki on efnet.

Why efnet when practically every other Gentoo related channel is on Freenode?

Anyway, I would like to help, especially in areas of structure, categorization, templates, spellchecking and other such editorial tasks.

yngwin wrote:That's good news, that the wiki is back! I think you are making the right decision with implementing structural changes based on lessons learnt, now that you start more or less from scratch.

thrasher6670 wrote:on IRC #gentoo-wiki on efnet.

Why efnet when practically every other Gentoo related channel is on Freenode?

Anyway, I would like to help, especially in areas of structure, categorization, templates, spellchecking and other such editorial tasks.

i'll setup a freenode one later, just been hanging out on the Efnet #gentoo for years

Do I understand correctly that no real information has been lost, only the wiki configs? Please reassure me. That would be terrible, all this effort... All those hours of work and such a large amount of knowledge... Maybe Gentoo should step forward at this point (I know they've always said the wiki wasn't official) and team up with Mike to improve and secure things?

pjv all the information was lost.

I have managed to recover basically everything though, but there are no histories or anything like that so its still best to start over.
Head over here if you need a wiki page: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/

it's quite amazing to see this community pulling together.
is there a gentoo-portage thread like this? with regards to commenting/uploading photos etc, could the internet archive be useful?
http://web.archive.org/web/200802091140 ... com/Browse
A feedback or priority system that shows what still needs doing would also allow people to focus their effort - just a thought.

P.S. I really like the idea of using twitter as a changelog

any thoughts on writing a script to scrape from the google cache of the wiki?

maybe use that to update what you already have for the missing entries.......

johnm1019 wrote:any thoughts on writing a script to scrape from the google cache of the wiki?

maybe use that to update what you already have for the missing entries.......

We'd rather not import the old site or data. If you would like to use the old wiki - http://www.gentoo-wiki.info - it is read-only; but is up for
now as an archive site. (Thanks to Cheater512)

just noticed a glaring error, on http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Help:IRC

down the bottom it mentions appealing against disciplinary action. and the email address used is help@crayola.com why would emails need to be sent to a colouring pencil company??

If discplinary measures are taken and the affected person wishes to appeal, appeals should be addressed to the help@crayola.com via email.

spikes wrote:just noticed a glaring error, on http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Help:IRC

down the bottom it mentions appealing against disciplinary action. and the email address used is help@crayola.com why would emails need to be sent to a colouring pencil company??

If discplinary measures are taken and the affected person wishes to appeal, appeals should be addressed to the help@crayola.com via email.

nope, not written in error. point being - if you want to appeal, oh well.

bad form imo, encouraging spam to a company....

'Immature' and 'Childish' come to mind.

spikes wrote:just noticed a glaring error, on http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Help:IRC

down the bottom it mentions appealing against disciplinary action. and the email address used is help@crayola.com why would emails need to be sent to a colouring pencil company??

If discplinary measures are taken and the affected person wishes to appeal, appeals should be addressed to the help@crayola.com via email.

thats what AllenJB for copy/pasting from somewhere else.

Wasn't me! I wrote the version of the page on scratch but hadn't copied it over yet.

I have just seen that you are looking for foreign language admin. I'm french so if you need someone for that language just tell me I would be glad to help.

X-dark wrote:I have just seen that you are looking for foreign language admin. I'm french so if you need someone for that language just tell me I would be glad to help.

I enlist for the Italian language

Would it be possible to have registered users (similar to forum users)? Even the C wiki now requires login to edit (though if you know a bit of C you can login based on /topic ##c.) I think that would make things a lot better, especially wrt quality of material; people like AllenJB should have a bit more say imo.

Just a suggestion, thanks for the wiki.

Mediawiki can require authentication for editing with the right configuration as well.