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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 10:41 pm    Post subject: Don't use winex anymore ! Reply with quote

http://www.linuxgames.com/news/feedback.php?identiferID=6287&action=flatview

I'm not surprised by this, how we can get native games under linux if a society like transgaming, who knowes our OS (linux), made a portage of a game under Win & MacOSX, but not under Linux ??? Like said in the commentary, maybe there is a better use of subscription money, your money goes to Win & MacOSX....

any thoughts about that ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure!

Transgaming is just making money on free softwares.
They dont care of supporting and developping linux and fs,
by making a real contribution.
They show it once again, by trying to make money on the next game
they will port on pcs (except linux), keeping linux free of another
native game, and the dependance to emulators, thus selling
more Winex licenses.
Support native games, though this is sometime hard.
And don't forget, you _can_ help to stop this mascarade :

*unmerge winex from your pc*

while waiting gentoo admins remove it from portage :)
(hope soon)

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't use WineX even if I wanted too... the CVS is still broken! :x
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By paying Transgaming to support games under Linux I validate Linux as a viable market for future game development.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:26 pm    Post subject: please, remove winex from your system Reply with quote

I don't know what transgaming was thinking about that one. I used to be pretty "tolerant" toward WineX but now, I'm sad to say it's on my blacklist.

I hope many users cancel their subscriptions.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dice wrote:
By paying Transgaming to support games under Linux I validate Linux as a viable market for future game development.


In my opinion, by paying Transgaming you don't support games under Linux, if you want support games under Linux, buy games with native linux client (like q3, nwn, rtcw, majesty...) or support initiative like icculus => they really do a good job for linux gamers !
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuF wrote:
dice wrote:
By paying Transgaming to support games under Linux I validate Linux as a viable market for future game development.


In my opinion, by paying Transgaming you don't support games under Linux, if you want support games under Linux, buy games with native linux client (like q3, nwn, rtcw, majesty...) or support initiative like icculus => they really do a good job for linux gamers !


Agreed, exept for nwn, seeing how much they cheated and lied on us. but that's another story :)
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dioxmat wrote:
DuF wrote:
dice wrote:
By paying Transgaming to support games under Linux I validate Linux as a viable market for future game development.


In my opinion, by paying Transgaming you don't support games under Linux, if you want support games under Linux, buy games with native linux client (like q3, nwn, rtcw, majesty...) or support initiative like icculus => they really do a good job for linux gamers !


Agreed, exept for nwn, seeing how much they cheated and lied on us. but that's another story :)


Yeah it's right, nwn was not the best example, but bioware made the port, so at this time, for me it's ok.

And I just want to add that with wine (not winex) a lot of games are playable !
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuF wrote:
In my opinion, by paying Transgaming you don't support games under Linux, if you want support games under Linux, buy games with native linux client (like q3, nwn, rtcw, majesty...) or support initiative like icculus => they really do a good job for linux gamers !


I buy Linux versions when available, but if it's not available there's no reason why I shouldn't use Transgaming.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see no reason to stop using it, but for god's sake don't pay for it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i see no reason to stop using it, but for god's sake don't pay for it.


Stealing is wrong :(
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dice wrote:
gsfgf wrote:
i see no reason to stop using it, but for god's sake don't pay for it.


Stealing is wrong :(


You can use it, without steal it (maybe with the cvs version...)
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dice wrote:
DuF wrote:
In my opinion, by paying Transgaming you don't support games under Linux, if you want support games under Linux, buy games with native linux client (like q3, nwn, rtcw, majesty...) or support initiative like icculus => they really do a good job for linux gamers !


I buy Linux versions when available, but if it's not available there's no reason why I shouldn't use Transgaming.


That why Transgaming just port games only to windows, and take care not to do the same with linux, so that people like you can pay them...
Pay the game on windows+ the monthly licence of winex.
If noone play games with winex, Transgaming would consider porting games to linux, rather than providing their substitute.
Developing native games would be supporting gaming on linux, providing a real alternative.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would cancel my subscription but I already did. I decided they were never going to support the few games I have, and I was board with those anyway. And my policy nowdays is to never buy any windows software I don't absolutely need. Even if it can be run through wine, winex or whatever.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuF wrote:
dice wrote:
gsfgf wrote:
i see no reason to stop using it, but for god's sake don't pay for it.


Stealing is wrong :(


You can use it, without steal it (maybe with the cvs version...)


That's what i meant.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsfgf wrote:
DuF wrote:
dice wrote:
gsfgf wrote:
i see no reason to stop using it, but for god's sake don't pay for it.


Stealing is wrong :(


You can use it, without steal it (maybe with the cvs version...)


That's what i meant.


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I couldn't use WineX even if I wanted too... the CVS is still broken! :x

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid Transgaming $15 for a three month subscription and it was my biggest mistake ever! I still haven't got any use for it. :evil:

No more, I say...
I might as well keep dual booting until the games I like gets native support. If that ever will happen. :cry:
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe its just me, but since when has linux been a viable market for games? Actually reading the posted link indicates there are technical problems with the game and linux/winex. Did any think that Aspyr might have also been involved in how things were done?

If they are actually making money on a MS/MAC version, that will allow them to develop the linux version.

After saying that, I'm not defending Transgaming at all. I've never used their product. Just seems like there are some knee-jerk reactions.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with DuF. If it isn't ported to Linux, I don't really need it. For Linux gaming I have UT2K3 and NWN (I installed NWN on my wife's W2K box and burned the files I needed for Linux to cdr's. I then uninstalled it from the wife's computer - PIII450, 384MB, 32MB TNT2, not so good for games). But for decent gaming, I just fire up the PS2 (X-Box is only good for hackers IMHO http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/), smoke a fatty, put the headphones on and it's all rock'n roll after that. My TV is much bigger than my 17" monitor. Really, support the guy's making Linux games or porting existing games to Linux. Still sad about Loki. Great idea that might have been a little early.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fscked that link. Here it is... http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ Sorry.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I have paid for subscription to winex ever since it was first announced.

sad to say I have never really used it.

I just renewed my subscription a few weeks back. I can't even get civ3 to work, and no-one on their forum will help me. And I think I've got longer subscriptions than all of them... it's dissapointing. short to say I don't think I will renew my subscription again, if I can't even get civ3 working, and cs runs better under wine anyway! :(
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can I support GentooGames instead ?? I'd gladly swap my transgaming subscription money to gentoo!! OH YEAH!

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Today, we announce the creation of Gentoo Games, Inc., a gaming technology company created to deliver innovative Linux-based game technologies to the public. To kick off this new initiative, we are also announcing a full version of the very popular (Linux exclusive) America's Army military combat simulation on a self-booting Gentoo GameCD. Thanks to hosting services provided by Super Computer, Inc., the America's Army GameCD can be downloaded here. This CD includes the full version of the America's Army game and requires an NVIDIA or recent ATI (Radeon 8500 or higher) graphics card. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuF wrote:
dice wrote:
gsfgf wrote:
i see no reason to stop using it, but for god's sake don't pay for it.


Stealing is wrong :(


You can use it, without steal it (maybe with the cvs version...)


But the CVS version doesn't have the install shield stuff and other random crap. I installed both Balck & White and Max Payne by simply popping in the CD, mounting it, running winex3 /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe and clicking 'next' about a billion times. If I didn't have the install shield support I wouldn't be able to play these games at all since I do not own a copy of Windows.

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dice wrote:
DuF wrote:
In my opinion, by paying Transgaming you don't support games under Linux, if you want support games under Linux, buy games with native linux client (like q3, nwn, rtcw, majesty...) or support initiative like icculus => they really do a good job for linux gamers !


I buy Linux versions when available, but if it's not available there's no reason why I shouldn't use Transgaming.


That why Transgaming just port games only to windows, and take care not to do the same with linux, so that people like you can pay them...
Pay the game on windows+ the monthly licence of winex.
If noone play games with winex, Transgaming would consider porting games to linux, rather than providing their substitute.
Developing native games would be supporting gaming on linux, providing a real alternative.


There was already a company that did that, they were called Loki. I bought software from them, they died.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worst thing about WineX in my opinion is stopping to work on games which have been chosen a long time ago.

ie Battlefield 1942, it runs, but you can't play it decent. Now we have to vote AGAIN to let them work on it, ffs finish the support on the game and then move on to the next. Don't quit half-way....

Ok, having said that, I will see what I'll do when my 6months subscription runs out...
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, check out this game that had its engine as opensource and the game will be for linux and windows out of the box.

www.ryzom.com

GPL engine: www.nevrax.org
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