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siddhartha
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 Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:52 am Post subject: New ATI Drivers... 3.14.6 (released 9/11/2004) |
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| .. anybody knows if they work for xorg 6.8? |
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d4rk74m4
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:15 am Post subject: |
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No, they don't.
This release is just a hotfix, to resolve the doom3 problems. The proper release is still two months from whenever the last release was (IIRC over a month ago). |
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SeanHarmer
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:25 am Post subject: Version bump |
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And supposedly the December release will be important enough to warrant a version numbering reset for the linux drivers (see this post for more info).
Let's hope that we start to see performance more in line with the windows drivers and support for x.org 6.8.
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Deranger
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| d4rk74m4 wrote: | No, they don't.
This release is just a hotfix, to resolve the doom3 problems. The proper release is still two months from whenever the last release was (IIRC over a month ago). |
Hahhah good luck ATI users  This is the reason why I switched to nVidia  |
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JohnVot
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| Oktane wrote: | | d4rk74m4 wrote: | No, they don't.
This release is just a hotfix, to resolve the doom3 problems. The proper release is still two months from whenever the last release was (IIRC over a month ago). |
Hahhah good luck ATI users This is the reason why I switched to nVidia |
Unfortunnaly it's impossible to change the graphics card in a laptop, only way to avoid madness is not buying ati laptop. Which is hard too. |
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brianm
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I just ordered an nvidia 6800 GT. Should be here today. I was fed up with ATi after trying to get 3d acceleration working with my 9800pro.
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zendmaster
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| I also just ordered a 6800 GT. I've had my 9700 for over a year now and got sick of waiting for decent drivers, so I made the switch. |
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pestilence
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Well i just droped from ati's drivers and moved to the kernel modules (they support my ATI 9000M card) much better and with no lockups! 
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foosh
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Maybe RTFM.... I've a 9600 pro running 3D without problems...
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foosh
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| To wrote: | | Maybe RTFM.... I've a 9600 pro running 3D without problems... |
With X.org 6.8? Direct rendering enabled? Config details?
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Henry78
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| To wrote: | Maybe RTFM.... I've a 9600 pro running 3D without problems...
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i read the man, and it's - i'm quite sure - not possible to run a 9800 with 3D / DRI on xorg 8.6
correction appreciated.
but it looks like the new ATI drivers (3.14.6, see http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html#3d) would support 3d, at least for xfee86 4.1.0 to 4.3.0. |
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Wedge_
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Umm, they've had 3D acceleration support on XFree for a long time now, it's not anything new  They will also work on Xorg 6.7, since it's binary compatible with XFree 4.3.
A release without 3D accel support would be really strange, even by ATI standards
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Henry78
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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sorry forgot to add
... for the 9200 and higher series
thanks for the hint |
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Luka21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:54 am Post subject: |
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ATI's new drivers 3.14.6 are a complete absurd. I have radeon 9000 mobility and with 3.14.1 drivers doom 3 worked with completly polygonized display, however driver upgrade put an end to polygons by freezing the screen.
So, I decided to check ATI's change log (Issues Resolved):
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Issues Resolved
This section provides information on issues that have been resolved with the latest release of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver.
* Doom 3: Random polygons no longer appear throughout the display while playing the game
* 3D Applications no longer fail to respond on RHEL 3.0 with 1GB or more memory installed
* The System no longer fails to respond when moving the mouse around on the screen on some systems |
A simple evaluation shows that 66.6% of changes were made to giving ati users a privilege to use mouse and >=1GB memory. The rest of the 33.3% of the effort was replacing version 3.14.1 with 3.14.6. Note that I didn't take doom into account because it wasn't fixed - at least not for me.
I think ati is loosing the war. They can't even aford competent programmers. I am switching to open source drivers, and with next notebook to nvidia. |
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Deranger
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| You are wrong, ATI has lost the war! |
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foosh
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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It's true...
Like a paper in college, after so many days of not delivering the assignment on time, your grade eventually becomes a zero. ATI has long since passed the deadline for credibility with Linux users. They claim they'll put in the effort now (talk of a "major" december release), but I'm sorry ATI, most people have already written you off with a fat, red failing grade stamped on your forehead.
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foosh
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Anyone heard any rumors about possible release timeframe for the next driver?
I think "first week of december" has been circulating, but has anyone heard anything fresh?
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gralves
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Recent rumors suggest the next driver will be released togheter with the windows one this wednsday. |
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foosh
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black hole sun
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| foosh wrote: | | ^^^ spoken like a true Insider... |
Hehe, I think I'll add to that rumor with my support
Let's just say it'll be a pretty big release
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goulash
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| oooo im excited for tomorrow |
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Deranger
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| Don't expect too much, because you'll get disappointed |
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foosh
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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^Yeah, probably true.
I'm holding my breath tho...
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