X.org Lockups

jedimark · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:08 am Post subject: Bugger :(

More crash

Although with freetype disabled, lockups are a heck of a lot less frequent...
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frilled · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:05 am Post subject:

What CPUs and chipsets are you guys using on the machines where you experience the lockups?
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Liquid Crystal · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 77

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frilled · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:36 am Post subject:

Liquid Crystal · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 77

intel chipset
yes, -march=pentium3 is in my CFLAGS
Where to look for "NoMTRR" option, in xorg.conf?
can you post a linkor reference?
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frilled · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:32 am Post subject:

jludwig · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject:

Hey gang, for those having trouble with the i810 chipset another thread was started

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=245759&highlight=

he has had the same problem with multiple distros.... can anyone confirm this chipset+xfree X11 server works fine? If so I think this needs to get passed onto the Xorg folks...
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frilled · Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject:

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comet · n00b Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 8

Oh well, lets summarize things a bit (if it helps anyone) from this topic, from
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=215629 and
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=242075

Xorg bug: http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1399
and http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=418
and http://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=417
Redhat Bugrep: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120018
Please if anyone could register and give feedback to THEM that would be cool, and we might get this fixed.

- The crash occurs on various hardware
-- CPU: P4 3Ghz, AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1400, AMD Athlon 900Mhz, Athlon XP 1500+, Pentium III 866MHz
-- GFX cards: Radeon 9200, NVidia GeForce2 GTS/Pro, GeForce Ultra 5700, Geforce FX 5200
-- M/B: Abit AT7 (VIA KT333), SiS P4S61, (TODO add more mobos)
-- Mem: various sizes

- It occurs on various w/ms like: kde, gnome, ion2, fluxbox

- It occurs on various kernel versions: 2.4.23-ck1 - 2.6.9 (gentoo patched and vanilla aswell)

- It occurs on various X versions:
--XFree 4.3 - ??
--Xorg up to 6.7.0-rc2
--Xorg up to 6.8.0-rc1 (a strange line is reported on crash)

-Reported with the following applications(usually when heavy mouse activity occurs), mostly GTK apps: browsers(firefox,konqueror,galleon,Opera), gaim, gkrellm

-Reports in various distributions: debian, mandrake, fedora and gentoo
Sympthoms:

- X CPU usage 100%
- Keyboard is not working
- Mouse is working but nothing is clickable (in some cases mouse is not working any more)
- Magic SysRq is possible
- Sshing in from remote server and killing X is possible.

CFLAGS: From "" to heavy ones.

My story:

CPU: Intel P4 3Ghz
MB: SIS
RAM: 512MB
GFX: ATi Radeon 9200
HDD: 80Gb

The system is brand new. I installed gentoo from stage1 this week(2004.11.03).
CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe"
Im using Xorg 6.7.0-rc2. I usually crash when typeing posts like this in firefox and (maybe irrelevant crash here) when trying to run scorched3d with HW mip-mapping(this last one is 100% reproducable crash for me).

frilled · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject:

Would anybody please care to check if the crashes occur if you kill the xscreensaver daemon oder not have it installed at all?

I'm not talking abaout the screensaver kicking in, but simply the daemon runnning.
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comet · n00b Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 8

Nate_S · Guru Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 414

To add to that summary,

The crash occurs for me on a GF FX 5200
Mobo: Abit AT7 (VIA KT333)
Mem: 512M ddr400

I've also gotten it to crash in the default twm.

It also happens on vanilla 2.6 patches (various, I think I tested around 2.6.{4,5})

Xfree: I can confirm that it still crashes for me in xfree 4.3 (which ever one was marked as stable about a month ago)

In addition to SysRq I can also ssh in and kill -9 X

I origionally compiled with some heavy cflags, but when this started happening, I recompiled X, nvidia-drivers, and most all of X's deps, including glibc and gcc, among other things (most anything that looked at all gfx related from an meerge -pve xorg-x11) with CFLAGS=""

-Nate

emerose · n00b Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 11

I get the same hang on xorg 6.8.0 with:

-kernels 2.6.8-gentoo and 2.6.9-gentoo-r3
-Nvidia drivers versions 1.0-6111 and 1.0-6629
-fluxbox running with and without each of: xscreensaver, gdesklets, gkrellm, firefox (though I haven't tried all combinatorial possibilites)

this is on an amd64 system, and with a geforce fx5200 and nforce3 250Gb mobo, and all software is current as of today.

I've had hangs while playing music through xmms, watching movies in mplayer, and while the system was just idling; I first noticed them about a week ago, and have had 3 or 4 hangs since then.

I hope that helps; any new advice, or is this definitely an unfixed xorg bug?
-sq

javac16 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 111

Mostly wanted to chime in so I can get notified of updates for this topic.

I am having the same problems for quite awhile now. Currently running on:
- 2.6.9-r1 (gentoo-dev).
- xorg-x11 6.8.0-r1.
- Gnome 2.6.2-r1
- I use gdesklets, firefox, opera a lot, but I mostly see the problem when doing something in evolution (minimizing or selecting an email)

My box:
2 Xeon CPUs @ 2Ghz
1GB RAM
Megaraid for my harddrives

edit - I am also using nVidia drivers. Just switched to 1.0.6629 (haven't seen problem yet...)
edit2 - Just got the lockup again with the 6629 nVidia drivers

Dolio · l33t Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 650

Count me in.

- 2.6.8 and on
- xorg-x11 6.7 and 6.8
- KDE 3.2.0 - 3.3.1
- nVidia drivers 53xx - 6111 (and probably 6629, but haven't seen it yet)
- Happens most often when I switch virtual desktops while tvtime is running

Computer:
AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1400
768 MB RAM
IWill KA266-r motherboard (Ali Magik chipset, there's a piece of lost history)
GeForce3 video card
Hauppauge Win-TV PVR-PCI (bt-something-or-other chipset) TV card
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R-Type · n00b Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 62

I've had the same problem with my system since the late 2.5.xx kernel days ;). It would come and go as software/compilers/kernels changed versions. In every case, the mouse was frozen solid. I could not log into ssh at all. In almost every instance, I was scrolling in mozilla/firebird/firefox. GTK 2.x issues maybe? Every instance seemed to involve user interaction with a GTK 2.x app. I spend a lot of time in QT apps as well, and I haven't noticed a problem with them.

P3 850 slot1
Asus P3B-F 440BX
768MB SDRAM
Geforce 2 Ultra

current software
NPTL(only) glibc 2.6.9 vanilla dev kernel
6628 nvidia drivers
renderaccel enabled (happens with it off too, but far less often).
xorg 6.8.1 cvs as of a day ago (has happened on all X versions to date, even before xfree fork).
cflags="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fPIC -fomit-frame-pointer -fprofile-use"
gcc-3.4.3 (entire system is compiled with it, including kernel).
freetype-2.1.5
fluxbox .9.10
gkrellm2

Dolio · l33t Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 650

R-Type: It's unlikely that it's a GTK 2 problem. I use KDE and experience such freezes. The only GTK app I can think of that I use is the Gimp, and I rarely use it.
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R-Type · n00b Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 62

You're probably right. I'm guessing, just like everyone else is.

tam1138 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 103

I've been having the same problem, and I'm finally able to reliably reproduce it by opening this link in Firefox: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0411/09/index.htm. I've been able to drive X insane by opening that page once or twice, thus requiring a remote login and reboot.

I've also found that my habit of constantly high-lighting and un-high-lighting large sections of text in Firefox tends to kick this off as well.

I'm running a Duron 600 on a VIA KT133a board with an NVIDIA FX5200. I have since switched AGP from 4x to 2x in the BIOS and can't reliably reproduce it with the method described above. Yay me?

Nate_S · Guru Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 414

I suppose if you don't do much gaming, then yes. For me, I could always cause a freeze by scrolling rapidly with the mouse wheel on the firefox start page, if it didn't freeze when loading it.

Exactly what mobo and what brand of gfx card do you have?

I have a Abit AT7 (kt333) and an Albatron FX 5200

-Nate

tam1138 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 103

Asus A7V and Asus V9520 VideoSuite.

frilled · Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject:

Darn.

Lived happily for a week or so. Today, I got two lockups in a short period of time. So it was not 8k vs. 4k stacks. I don't know. I'll have too see what I emerged but I don't remember anything special. But not today. Today I am really sick of this (and additionally, I just ran into the "hotplug-does-no-longer-do-what-it-shouldn't-do" trap (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1752708#1752708) which put me into a lousy mood although it was fixed easily and fast). This sucks.
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Senso · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject:

I'm in, kinda. My problem seems to be different from most people here. Since a few weeks, my system *always* freezes when I exit a game. Not any game, Loki ones only - could be OpenGL-related. Doom3, Medal of Honor, even the old Soldier of Fortune. The second I exit the game, my mouse AND keyboard freeze. The "Caps Lock" led on the keyboard keeps flashing. I tried unplugging it and plugging it back, it still flashes. The mouse pointer is freezed and the only thing I can do is a hard reboot.

Here are my specs:
CPU: AMD Athlon 2000+ XP
Kernel: 2.4.26-gentoo-r9
GeForce FX 5600T
nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 (happened also with at least one older version).
X.0rg-6.8.0-r1 (as far as I know, it never happened when using Xfree)
BlackBox

I would say it has to do with X.Org and/or a combination of X.Org with the nvidia driver... I use Firefox, but not gkrelmm. I don't have xscreensaver installed.

Addendum: I am using a KVM switch. I'll play Doom 3 a bit then after the crash, I'll try it without the switch. I remember having keyboard-mouse lockups maybe a year ago and the caps lock led would start blinking...