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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: Xorg DPMS energy saving activating with user activty Reply with quote

I'm running :

- Xorg 6.7.0
- NVIDIA Kernel driver 1.0-5336
- gcc (GCC) 3.3.3 20040412 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.3-r6, ssp-3.3.2-2, pie-8.7.6)
- Kernel 2.6.7 (gentoo-dev-sources)

I've enabled DPMS support in the xorg.conf file by adding Option "DPMS" and I'm using the KDE Control Centre to set the screen blanking time to 10 minutes.

The problem I have is that regardless of user activity, in other words I can be moving the mouse around or using the keyboard, the display goes into power saving mode every 10 minutes!

This is annoying as it takes a while to recover from power saving mode, any suggestions or indications that this could may well be a bug (Xorg or NVIDIA drivers) ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem, Xorg and KDE but it only seems to happen once after I log into KDE. I do notice if I leave a kopete chat window open overnight it shows me as going idle>online>idle>online.... repeatedly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same thing here, except it seems to be random here, happening occasionally, not regularly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm that it also happens randomly here!

Its definately something to do with DPMS as the display goes into power saving mode each time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56443
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok,

put in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf

# Set the basic blanking screen saver timeout.

Option "BlankTime" "0" # minutes

# Set the DPMS timeouts. These are set here because they are global
# rather than screen-specific. These settings alone don't enable DPMS.
# It is enabled per-screen (or per-monitor), and even then only when
# the driver supports it.

Option "StandbyTime" "0" # Turn off screen (DPMS)
Option "SuspendTime" "0" # Full suspend
Option "OffTime" "0" # Turn off

back to KDE Control Centre and set the screen blanking time to 10 or ? minutes.

This works for me :wink:
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I tried the above in my xorg.conf and it doesn't seem to have changed my chat status from going online/idle/really ide over and over. I left a chat window open all night, here's the results.

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[23:56:22] <lightningfirephoto@jabber.org>test *initial message to start a chat window*
[00:06:48] - --firephoto is now Away.
[00:26:48] - --firephoto is now Online.
[00:36:48] - --firephoto is now Away.
[00:56:48] - --firephoto is now Extended Away.
[01:26:48] - --firephoto is now Online.
[01:36:48] - --firephoto is now Away.
[01:56:48] - --firephoto is now Extended Away.
[03:05:59] - --firephoto is now Online. *woke up and started an "emerge sync" *
[03:19:20] - --firephoto is now Away.
[03:39:20] - --firephoto is now Online.
[03:49:20] - --firephoto is now Away.
[04:09:20] - --firephoto is now Extended Away.
[04:39:20] - --firephoto is now Online.
[04:49:20] - --firephoto is now Away.
[05:09:20] - --firephoto is now Extended Away.
[07:10:49] - --firephoto is now Online.
[07:20:49] - --firephoto is now Away.
[07:40:49] - --firephoto is now Online.
[07:50:49] - --firephoto is now Away.
[08:10:49] - --firephoto is now Extended Away.
[08:40:49] - --firephoto is now Online.
[08:50:49] - --firephoto is now Away.
[09:10:49] - --firephoto is now Extended Away.
[09:32:20] - --firephoto is now Online.


No physical activity unless some well timed mice (furry ones) or spiders are being clever.

KDE diplsay power settings are set to Standby disabled, suspend 30, power off 60. Screen saver is set to "Blank Screen", Start auto after 5 minutes, and is "aware of power management".
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warp4 wrote:
ok,

put in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf

# Set the basic blanking screen saver timeout.

Option "BlankTime" "0" # minutes

# Set the DPMS timeouts. These are set here because they are global
# rather than screen-specific. These settings alone don't enable DPMS.
# It is enabled per-screen (or per-monitor), and even then only when
# the driver supports it.

Option "StandbyTime" "0" # Turn off screen (DPMS)
Option "SuspendTime" "0" # Full suspend
Option "OffTime" "0" # Turn off

back to KDE Control Centre and set the screen blanking time to 10 or ? minutes.

This works for me :wink:


I've tried that and also upgrading Xorg to the latest (6.7.0-r1) version in the portage tree but even with user activity, the display goes randomly into power saving mode....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

I only set the suspend time in KDE to 30 minutes.
Standby disabled
Power off disabled

Section "ServerLayout"

Option "BlankTime" "0"
Option "StandbyTime" "0"
Option "SuspendTime" "0"
Option "OffTime" "0"

works for me :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the power save happening when in use is related to to the "suspend" option (no vertical signal), and the system thinking it isn't idle (messenger programs) is related to the "power off" option. My chat window set me online at the exact time the display should have been going into power off but this could just be a KDE issue. The random screen blanking from DPMS seems to be the suspend time which isn't happening right on the proper time either.

I was testing with standby (no horizontal signal) at 1 minute, suspend (no vertical sig) at 2 minute, and after 2 minutes I still had a vertical signal and waited a few seconds then just turned off standby and suspend and set power off to 30 minutes. I applied the settings, closed the window and a few moments later the "suspend" kicked in till my mouse movement kicked it out.

Here's some KDE bugs about this issue or they seem similar.
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82377
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81986
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

I would like to add that I am having the same problem, having recently switched to xorg. I am running:

xorg 6.7.0-r1
kernel 2.4.26
gnome 2.6
ati radeon 7500 with dri
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just giving a "me too" here. I haven't changed any options in the xorg.conf file, but I have xscreensaver set to turn off after 10 minutes.

The first time I start X, the screen will turn off no matter what after 10 minutes. It will do this a second time after it comes back on. After I wake it up that time it won't do it again until X is restarted once more. Crazy!

(This is in GNOME, btw).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't noticed the problem since I set my suspend and standby times to zero and only set the power off time. I have all three set to zero in my xorg.conf and only use the kde display setup to set the power off time. I'd guess there's a Gnome display setup dialog for the power settings too but maybe there isn't? Also the screensaver setting for "Make aware of power management" isn't checked.

I'm also using the latest xorg but I believe I got rid of the problem before I upgraded.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

I have an ATI 9700, an Nforce 2 mobo and X.org:

Code:
*  x11-base/xorg-x11 :
        [   ] 6.7.0-r1 (0)
        [ ~I] 6.7.0-r2 (0)

merged:
Code:
Wed Jul 21 20:32:47 2004 >>> x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2
       merge time: 1 hour, 2 minutes and 11 seconds.

And xscreensaver,
Code:
*  x11-misc/xscreensaver :
        [   ] 4.14-r2 (0)
        [  I] 4.15 (0)
        [ ~] 4.16 (0)

merged:
Code:
Sat Jun 19 13:39:36 2004 >>> x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.15
       merge time: 4 minutes and 38 seconds.

I was browsing the forums and came upon this post:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=89527&highlight=modeline
After I got a modeline for the monitor, I altered my XF86Config file, enabling the Option "DPMS" in the Section "Monitor" - and after restarting X, a while after, I began having these flashes, the monitor would suddenly turn off.
I found this thread and I'm aware that there's a bug report for X.org, still I upgraded xscreensaver to the masked version (that was all I did):
Code:
*  x11-misc/xscreensaver :
        [   ] 4.14-r2 (0)
        [   ] 4.15 (0)
        [ ~I] 4.16 (0)

Somehow, it's been about 2 days since I did this, there have been no flashes / screen blanks even while using it - I have it to blank the screen and after a minute, power-off.
I'm aware that there isn't much sense in this solution, still it's working here, might help you guys... :?
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