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I've just set up Gentoo on distrowatch as my homepage.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:06 am
by C1REX
Distro watch is so misleading.
Inspired by this guy I did what he recommended but with gentoo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_X1w04ZUQk
So my new home page on all browsers on all devices is:
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gentoo
It's a silly game other play but because some take it seriously I want to put gentoo higher.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:43 am
by Muso
You could just write a script to make lynx or surf to hit the page over and over again when you aren't using your computers.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:58 am
by erm67
DistroWatch wrote:Only one hit per IP address per day is counted.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:19 am
by C1REX
I'm aware of one IP hit per day. I plan to be consistent - just a homepage on all devices and no scripts. That's about the limit when I feel it's fair.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:25 am
by krinn
you know you are also then adding more hits to distrowatch? And as such, you are helping a misleading website to keep continue doing it.
it's something "many" do, like people complaining about lack of native linux games that praise the wine ability to run windows games
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:07 pm
by 389292
Do you want Linux/Gentoo to be very very popular? I wish it will never cross the 5% total market share, otherwise it will just turn into corporate owned, Microsoft like product (piece of shit), it's already kind of doing it. And then what? Migrate to BSDs?...
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:08 pm
by C1REX
I don't care about Linux popularity that much (linux is already corporate on almost 100% of commercial servers) but I would like gentoo itself to get back some popularity from 15y ago.
Distrowatch only affects Linux users and not really the outside world.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:08 pm
by Ant P.
Distrowatch only affects the subset of Linux users that think Distrowatch has any relevance. Spamming Gentoo's hit count is, at worst, going to attract those undesirables.
It's like phishing emails. Only an idiot would respond to them. That's what they want. That's not what we want.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:28 pm
by C1REX
Ant P
You give a valid opinion but how do you know it's a fact? You sound like you giving a confirmed fact :)
I liked the activity on this forum when gentoo was in top 10 on distro watch :)
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:35 pm
by Muso
Ant P has a valid point. If you look at the kali forums it's full up of newbs who don't even understand partitioning (thanks a lot, Mr Robot).
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:13 pm
by C1REX
I like people. The more, the merrier :)
We might get some newcomers but so what? What's wrong with them? We might also get some experts, devs, intermediates, some nice people, some bad people, some cool ones and some crazy ones.
I like when community is friendly and open. That was the main reason I joined here in 2004 as Gentoo folks were known for being the best ones :)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:52 am
by erm67
C1REX wrote:I'm aware of one IP hit per day. I plan to be consistent - just a homepage on all devices and no scripts. That's about the limit when I feel it's fair.
Well distrowatch servers uses also ipv6 .. this can be used: usually ISP assign large prefixes to the users, for example I have a /64 it is a huge number of ip(6) addresses. Usually every line only has 1 ip4 address, if their script only checks the ip and not the range (likely) it's easy to cheat using ip6
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:55 am
by duane
Ant P. wrote:Distrowatch only affects the subset of Linux users that think Distrowatch has any relevance. Spamming Gentoo's hit count is, at worst, going to attract those undesirables.
That was my first reaction. However, I've realized recently that questions that seem naive can have a surprising amount of depth, and even when they don't, the answers often do. I'm not sure that a flood of newbies would be such a bad thing. I doubt that will happen, since the main distinguishing feature of gentoo is that it requires patience, but maybe it should. Maybe a healthy forum needs more people who ask the obvious questions, because they also may ask questions that only seem obvious.
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:23 pm
by krinn
duane wrote:I'm not sure that a flood of newbies would be such a bad thing.
a flood of newbies in gentoo or linux would be good
but i think Ant P. doesn't speak about them, he is speaking about a flood of "Masters" at linux, ones using a non learning distro that think they know all and their expertise in linux should raise them to a God status because nobody can beat them when it comes to click on something
they will only crawl the forum to gives stupid answers on how it work with their distro
few of them will try gentoo and gives up because, it takes too much time and it's too hard, it's not linux for them ; and we will again and again get a "i'm leaving gentoo" thread.
maybe Ant P. is not, but me, i'm so bored by them
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:36 pm
by erm67
Maybe gentoo doesn't fit the expectations of so many new users for different reasons ..... maybe the problem is not the work itself but the result; it the result was really so shiny uptodate and fast as they expected (because someone told them) they would not mind the work.
does distrowatch still have charts with updated packages available with every distro?
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:57 pm
by GFCCAE6xF
Great idea, I've done the same with all my families devices but used
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora instead apart from my father's ipad which I've set as
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distr ... =slackware out of pity
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:16 pm
by C1REX
Funny as Slackware would be my choice if I had to chose something other than Gentoo. Pity and respect at the same time I guess.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:58 pm
by duane
Ha. I call BS -- my family would raise holy hell if I changed their home pages.
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:30 am
by C1REX
When checking the last 7 days it seems that Gentoo is trending and at about 22nd place. Nice :)
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:09 am
by figueroa
C1REX wrote:When checking the last 7 days it seems that Gentoo is trending and at about 22nd place. Nice
I think you should be ashamed of your low integrity activity. Fortunately, I doubt you can really influence the trend.
Users who should be running Gentoo, just naturally migrate in this direction. The bar is a bit high.
I first found Gentoo via Distrowatch, not because of it's relative position, but because it was a link through which I could find read about many different distributions. No Windows refugee is going to read about Gentoo and be excited about what they've found. Nor should they.
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:55 am
by Chiitoo
figueroa wrote:No Windows refugee is going to read about Gentoo and be excited about what they've found. Nor should they.
I did, and was. :]
That said, I can't remember where I did read it. It's quite possible it was distrowatch, but definitely not due to the placement.
(While I did try Ubuntu for a few hours as my first Linux experience, I don't think I can really count it, so I consider my Gentoo to be my first instead (still running with the same, first successful installation).)