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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:46 am    Post subject: NVIDA now has full hardware mixing support under Linux Reply with quote

Currently the nforce2 soundstorm does not have full hardware mixing support under linux. This is mainly due to NVIDA not writing one themselves AND not providing the information for others to do so.
This is the email that I sent:
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I am the owner of an Nforce2 chipset with Soundstorm Audio. I would like to request that Nvidia either supply a fully functional Linux driver for Soundstorm (read hardware mixing) or release the necessary information for others to do so.

I am a hardware enthusiast and Linux support is a major factor in my purchasing decisions. ( I would put my purchasing cycle at 1 motherboard and 1 video card per year).

Please do the right thing,





Send NVIDA an email stressing how important this is to linux users.

*edit* nvidia says this is the correct email address.

cereal-chiller wrote:
followed the link and i got this response
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Please submit your request to:

nForce Drivers:
linux-nforce-bugs@nvidia.com


So please post your complaints to that e-mail! Maybe we can get somethig out of this!


****EDIT-01-23-2004****
The following link is to a post on lyt nforcershq.com forums discussing the audio situation. A forum user has posted his correspondance with an nvidia rep/dev(?) in which it is stated that they are working on linux support. . . he also clarifies why the APU is a sore point for nvidia (not just in linux but in general)

http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36337&start=15

EDIT: Title was "Tell NVIDA we need full hardware mixing support under Linux!" --pjp


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't ALSA working ?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes ALSA is "working" there is a nvaudio driver too that nvidia put out (mainly based upon the intel8x0 sound driver in ALSA), but neither are "fully" functional. The sound works, but they don't have full hardware mixing capabilities. So mixing must be done via a software mixer a la esd or arts.

*edit* did you send an email? :D
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the chips actually capable of full hardware mixing?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was wondering that as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chips themselves are great! They certainly support full hardware mixing as well as other goodies such as hardware dolby encoding. The only problem is that nvidia wont release enough details to enable the alsa guys to write a decent driver for it, nor will they write a *good* driver for it themselves!

Their support for graphics cards in linux is great, but their nforce support leaves a lot to be desired :(
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really guys, this isn't a frivalous post. I actually RTFM before I asked for some help in getting NVIDIA to come around.

So please lend me the 2 secs to click that link up there and let nvidia know ther e are some unhappy customers/potential customers out there.....it's the only thing that gets a corporation moving in the right direction. :D
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

followed the link and i got this response
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Please submit your request to:

nForce Drivers:
linux-nforce-bugs@nvidia.com


So please post your complaints to that e-mail! Maybe we can get somethig out of this!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I didn't get that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't get a whole lot of emails and I know there's a whole lot of Nforce2 users, so I'm giving her a bump. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think nvidia really cares about Linux users, they're just here to avoid any concurrent from installing within the Linux community, they only care about their shitty "intellectual property" (they don't do anything beside design & drivers).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your exactly right. Which is why it's so important to let them know there is a sizeable buying sector that cares about linux support. They DO care about $$$.

Personally I could care less how closed their drivers are as long as they develop fully functional ones.


Did you send your email? :D
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making this post sticky for now in order to allow as many people as possible to see and act on this request.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Erik.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent.. Lets hope they do the right thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the reply I got from them on this issue:

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We're currently working on porting APU micro-code and driver functionalityto Linux. I would still consider this to be an "investigation" at present,but we hope to be able to make it available in the future.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That quote probably translates to something like "looong coffee break, shit break, lunch break, smoking break, then might consider it, naah too bored, nevermind."
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got an auto response, so that at least means they're getting enough emails in so they feel the need to have someone respond to them. Or at least wrote up a "special" auto-response. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a copy of what I posted in krunks thread at nForcersHQ:

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What's the point, really? Even if nVidia were to release a Linux SoundStorm driver there's every chance it'd be closed source and the people still wouldn't be happy. Now that the breakthrough's been made with the LAN driver it's only a matter of time before they crack the audio drivers as well. It should really have been the other way around, a decent audio driver's been needed a lot longer than an open-source LAN driver (nvnet actually worked quite well, the fact it was closed source was really only a minor problem) but as long as people release closed source stuff on Linux the zealots see it as their duty to open it regardless of whether it's necessary or not. Now, I'm not trying to rag on what the forcedeth guys have achived here - it's nothing short of amazing - but the effort would still have been better spent creating a decent audio driver.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sent...
At this rate my $$$ are going Via's way with some all ready having gone to Creative (SBLive5.1).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think something as trivial as this is worth giving up what is arguably the best chipset the Athlon has ever seen in favour of shite from Via or Creative...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admiral LSD` wrote:
I don't think something as trivial as this is worth giving up what is arguably the best chipset the Athlon has ever seen in favour of shite from Via or Creative...

So far everything I have read about nforce3, pretty much makes believe it is in the shadow of kt800...
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