E17 is coming?? (Part 2)

[plac3bo]

I just installed EFL and Engage. I've read that the default theme has broken functionality. I've changed my theme to Gant, which has supposedly fixed the functionality. From get-e.org, this is how Engage works:

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This is how everything works:

left click - launch app (for launch icons) restore app (iconified icons)
left hold - raise/unminimize window ("hold" definition is broken in the default
theme it will create another instance of the app you wish to unminimize.)
middle click - iconify apps
right click - config menu (for this to work you need to have examine installed. It's in e17/apps/examine in cvs)

So, let me explain what happens on my system, and then ask if others have a similar experience or if I'm just doing something wrong. My left-click launches an app. I do not have any "restore apps" (iconified). When I minimize something, it falls off the face of the planet. Only way to get it back is thru Fluxbox's iconified menu. Left-hold turns icon on Engage bar transparent, and if the app is not iconified, it will raise the app to the foreground. Middle-click does iconify, but, falls off face of planet again. Right-click menu, good.

Is anyone else not able to retreive iconified apps from engage?? Also, I have started Engage with "-I 0 -i 0" switches so nothing would be ignored. Flip-flopping those switches also does not help. Am I missing a Engage config setting or flag ... or a Fluxbox setting or something??

System is x86_64 / 2.6.11 / all E libs and Engage compiled from CVS source 5.8.2005 ... oh, and no special gcc flags, just whatever autogen/configure gave me.

Thanks.

[vrln]

I just installed EFL and Engage. I've read that the default theme has broken functionality. I've changed my theme to Gant, which has supposedly fixed the functionality. From get-e.org, this is how Engage works:

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This is how everything works:

left click - launch app (for launch icons) restore app (iconified icons)
left hold - raise/unminimize window ("hold" definition is broken in the default
theme it will create another instance of the app you wish to unminimize.)
middle click - iconify apps
right click - config menu (for this to work you need to have examine installed. It's in e17/apps/examine in cvs)

So, let me explain what happens on my system, and then ask if others have a similar experience or if I'm just doing something wrong. My left-click launches an app. I do not have any "restore apps" (iconified). When I minimize something, it falls off the face of the planet. Only way to get it back is thru Fluxbox's iconified menu. Left-hold turns icon on Engage bar transparent, and if the app is not iconified, it will raise the app to the foreground. Middle-click does iconify, but, falls off face of planet again. Right-click menu, good.

Is anyone else not able to retreive iconified apps from engage?? Also, I have started Engage with "-I 0 -i 0" switches so nothing would be ignored. Flip-flopping those switches also does not help. Am I missing a Engage config setting or flag ... or a Fluxbox setting or something??

System is x86_64 / 2.6.11 / all E libs and Engage compiled from CVS source 5.8.2005 ... oh, and no special gcc flags, just whatever autogen/configure gave me.

Thanks.

You took the text out a bit of context (to be honest though, that section isn't very clear since it hasn't been a priority for a long time anymore, I'll try to update it a bit anyway). As you probably know there are two versions of engage. The E17 module one works fine, but is lacking features (but it also has some features that aren't in the standalone) that are in the standalone one. The "this is how it works" thing is about the default theme in the standalone version, not the GANT theme - every theme has its own control settings, and I have no idea how the GANT theme is built anymore. The GANT theme indeed does fix some of the functionality (it's stated what), but that doesn't include that the default keybindings stay the same. I'm not sure at all what the current situation is, but when that was written (almost half a year ago) everything worked and I'd also assume the keybindings were pretty similar in the GANT theme back then or I would have noted that they have changed dramatically.

The problem is that the standalone version which you are trying to use is abandoned and no longer under development (development is focused on the Engage E17 module). The entire guide assumes you are using E17. About the missing iconified apps, perhaps the Engage standalone has been broken by some of the EFL updates and hasn't been updated. Can anyone else confirm this too? If it's indeed broken, perhaps the Engage standalone stuff needs to be removed or at least there needs to be some kind of disclaimer that things may be horribly broken.

edit: I removed the gant theme hack section, it was probably outdated and I haven't confirmed if it works for half a year (it did when it was written at least) - sorry about that. Seems like the gant theme is broken btw. Application grabbing should work though.

[vrln]

Just emerge the E17 yesterday. The eye-candy is really impressing.
I love the dynamic engage or ibar, and beautiful plugins.

However, the engage is quite unstable, or E, whatever. I could see 3 icons,
larger, media and small icons when icon zooming is enabled, and the mouse
disappear mysterically. Reboot the WM, everything is OK.

Just have a question about how to tweak the E, is there any GUI to do or
which configure should we modify ? I need to change the window behavior.

Any idea about the task bar or Alt-Tab alternative keybinding to swtich between
windows ?

I've been a little excited by the idea of envidence. The browser mode, just like Mac OSX's
finder is most intuititve and convinient layout for the file manager. However, evidance is
quite ugly compared with other components of E. :(

E17 shouldn't be able to make your mouse cursor disappear, haven't heard anything like that. Perhaps you've found a new bug though, I have no idea about that. You haven't read documentation before starting though (one should, the ebuilds are masked -* for a reason), at least not the important things as you don't seem to know that it's in a pre-alpha state :) In other words, alt-tab = not impletented yet, taskbar = there is no such thing yet, except Engage can be used for that. There is no control panel GUI and you can't change the window behavior (if you mean focus follows mouse). Evidence's looks depends alot on the theme and effects you choose to use, the default theme is indeed horrible - I'd suggest trying the tosh theme.

[Pithlit]

You can theme Evidence completely to your liking by:

a.) making a new theme
b.) combining the existing themes - using a bg from one theme, icons from another... (fishtank bg rocks )

It's an extremely flexible app in that aspect.

[tomato]

I've been a little excited by the idea of envidence. The browser mode, just like Mac OSX's
finder is most intuititve and convinient layout for the file manager. However, evidance is
quite ugly compared with other components of E.

Try some of the themes that come with Evidence, eg these two:

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evidence -T /usr/share/evidence/themes/LCARS
evidence -T rephormed

[plac3bo]

Thanks for the feedback vrln. I did not realize your guide was that old. I can imagine, alot has changed with Engage and/or EFL since then. Anyway, I do really like the complete E wm, but, it seems a little rough around the edges, so to speak. That is why I was hoping to at least get Engage working in Fluxbox for now. I will just have to play around with E wm and Engage on my own a little more.

The problem is that the standalone version which you are trying to use is abandoned and no longer under development (development is focused on the Engage E17 module)

I'm curious, does this mean that the current state of Engage standalone is as complete as it will ever be, or is there a chance that devs may revisit the standalone Engage code once the rest of E/EFL/etc are (more) complete?

[vrln]

Thanks for the feedback vrln. I did not realize your guide was that old. I can imagine, alot has changed with Engage and/or EFL since then. Anyway, I do really like the complete E wm, but, it seems a little rough around the edges, so to speak. That is why I was hoping to at least get Engage working in Fluxbox for now. I will just have to play around with E wm and Engage on my own a little more.

The problem is that the standalone version which you are trying to use is abandoned and no longer under development (development is focused on the Engage E17 module)

I'm curious, does this mean that the current state of Engage standalone is as complete as it will ever be, or is there a chance that devs may revisit the standalone Engage code once the rest of E/EFL/etc are (more) complete?

hey :) The guide is completely modern and up to date, except that one engage standalone specific section, which is no longer there... Again sorry for not noticing it's outdated before... not many people use the standalone version anymore and I hadn't tried it for ages. I'm not the one who can answer your question (I'm not an E dev), but you could try emailing the author of Engage - at least currently all development is focused on the E17 module version though.

[tdi]

what is the porblem with enotes..

is this edit so f.... up everywhere?
when i clear the text it gives segfaults.
when i minimize the enote, it leaves black rectangle.
is there ant possibility to resize the note and make the menu (save, exit, settings) disappear ?

[quarantedeux]

Hi,

I have done an update of e17 and all related libs today. Now emerge of engage fails! What can it be?

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 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/enlightenment -O3 -march=pentium-m -mtune=pentium-m -fforce-addr -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -pipe -MT e_mod_main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/e_mod_main.Tpo -c e_mod_main.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/e_mod_main.o
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_add':
e_mod_main.c:1071: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_remove':
e_mod_main.c:1116: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_iconify':
e_mod_main.c:1158: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_uniconify':
e_mod_main.c:1207: error: structure has no member named `container'
make[3]: *** [e_mod_main.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/engage-9999/work/misc/engage/src/module

thanks

[gimpel]

what is the porblem with enotes..

is this edit so f.... up everywhere?
when i clear the text it gives segfaults.
when i minimize the enote, it leaves black rectangle.
is there ant possibility to resize the note and make the menu (save, exit, settings) disappear ?

why not use the notes module from e_modules package? it can be resized via gadman etc...

enotes is outdated and afaik unmaintained atm...

[gimpel]

Hi,

I have done an update of e17 and all related libs today. Now emerge of engage fails! What can it be?

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 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/enlightenment -O3 -march=pentium-m -mtune=pentium-m -fforce-addr -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -pipe -MT e_mod_main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/e_mod_main.Tpo -c e_mod_main.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/e_mod_main.o
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_add':
e_mod_main.c:1071: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_remove':
e_mod_main.c:1116: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_iconify':
e_mod_main.c:1158: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_uniconify':
e_mod_main.c:1207: error: structure has no member named `container'
make[3]: *** [e_mod_main.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/engage-9999/work/misc/engage/src/module

thanks

just updated too, same error. and old version doesn't show any started apps anymore :/

we'll have to wait 'till HandyAndE fixed it for new e17 code

[saty]

I'm getting crazy soon...

emotion, ewl and e refuse to compile, all other EFL's compile well.

I emerge in the given order from get-e.org, i completly wiped out /usr/local and deleted even all configs in .e/e/config.

But every time, since 2-3 weeks, these three packages break with a segmentation fault:

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/bin/sh: line 1:  8189 Segmentation fault      edje_cc -v -id ../../data/themes/default/bits/images default.edc ../../data/themes/default.edj
make[3]: *** [default.edj] Error 139
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl/data'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Same for all three... is there something wrong with default.edj (edc) ?

[gentoo_lan]

I'm getting crazy soon...

emotion, ewl and e refuse to compile, all other EFL's compile well.

I emerge in the given order from get-e.org, i completly wiped out /usr/local and deleted even all configs in .e/e/config.

But every time, since 2-3 weeks, these three packages break with a segmentation fault:

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/bin/sh: line 1:  8189 Segmentation fault      edje_cc -v -id ../../data/themes/default/bits/images default.edc ../../data/themes/default.edj
make[3]: *** [default.edj] Error 139
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl/data/themes'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl/data'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/ewl-9999/work/e17/libs/ewl'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Same for all three... is there something wrong with default.edj (edc) ?

Could you post your:

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emerge info

[saty]

Here you go:

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Portage 2.0.51.21 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.3-20050110, glibc-2.3.5-r0, 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.11
ccache version 2.4 [disabled]
dev-lang/python:     2.2.3-r1, 2.3.5
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.4
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.5
sys-devel/binutils:  2.15.92.0.2-r8
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.16
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -m3dnow -mmmx"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
LANG="de_DE@euro"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 3dnow X aalib apm avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr crypt cups curl dvd dvdread emboss encode esd fam flac font-server foomaticdb fortran gd gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 imagemagick imlib ipv6 java joystick jpeg kde ldap libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl png ppds python qt quicktime readline ruby samba scanner sdl slang spell ssl svga tcltk tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb vorbis xine xml xml2 xmms xv zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc"
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS

I even tried to compile emotion with USE="alsa" (i'm using emu10k1 OSS drivers), because i read that emotion uses alsa... but no effect.

[saty]

Seems like i found it...

Just updated sandbox and portage and tried again. Now emotion compiled well...

Now i hope the others do as well... EDIT: they did.

[kreedcarmoch]

Hi,

I have done an update of e17 and all related libs today. Now emerge of engage fails! What can it be?

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 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/enlightenment -O3 -march=pentium-m -mtune=pentium-m -fforce-addr -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -pipe -MT e_mod_main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/e_mod_main.Tpo -c e_mod_main.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/e_mod_main.o
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_add':
e_mod_main.c:1071: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_remove':
e_mod_main.c:1116: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_iconify':
e_mod_main.c:1158: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_uniconify':
e_mod_main.c:1207: error: structure has no member named `container'
make[3]: *** [e_mod_main.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/engage-9999/work/misc/engage/src/module

thanks

Same error here also.... I guess it's not a problem with my setup then (phew).

[gentoo_lan]

Hi,

I have done an update of e17 and all related libs today. Now emerge of engage fails! What can it be?

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 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/enlightenment -O3 -march=pentium-m -mtune=pentium-m -fforce-addr -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -pipe -MT e_mod_main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/e_mod_main.Tpo -c e_mod_main.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/e_mod_main.o
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_add':
e_mod_main.c:1071: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_remove':
e_mod_main.c:1116: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_iconify':
e_mod_main.c:1158: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_uniconify':
e_mod_main.c:1207: error: structure has no member named `container'
make[3]: *** [e_mod_main.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/engage-9999/work/misc/engage/src/module

thanks

Same error here also.... I guess it's not a problem with my setup then (phew).

Don't worry. I have the same problem also.

[gimpel]

Hi,

I have done an update of e17 and all related libs today. Now emerge of engage fails! What can it be?

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 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/enlightenment -O3 -march=pentium-m -mtune=pentium-m -fforce-addr -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -pipe -MT e_mod_main.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/e_mod_main.Tpo -c e_mod_main.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/e_mod_main.o
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_add':
e_mod_main.c:1071: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_remove':
e_mod_main.c:1116: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_iconify':
e_mod_main.c:1158: error: structure has no member named `container'
e_mod_main.c: In function `_engage_cb_event_border_uniconify':
e_mod_main.c:1207: error: structure has no member named `container'
make[3]: *** [e_mod_main.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/engage-9999/work/misc/engage/src/module

thanks

Same error here also.... I guess it's not a problem with my setup then (phew).

Don't worry. I have the same problem also.

already fix0rt in CVS

[kreedcarmoch]

already fix0rt in CVS

Yep, just finished compiling

[gentoo_lan]

already fix0rt in CVS

Yep, just finished compiling

It works like a charm.

[und3ad]

Every single time I try to compile the e-9999 ebuild, I get an open_wr ACCESS VIOLATION to a config.sub file (/usr/share/libtool/config.sub). This error has been the cause of my frustration for months, so it's nothing that a cvs-update can fix it seems. I believe it's related to my system somehow, but I don't know how exactly. I've even tried chmod 777 config.sub, which didn't work. I'm running out of ideas. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.. Btw, this is regardless of which part of E17 I'm compiling..

[gimpel]

Every single time I try to compile the e-9999 ebuild, I get an open_wr ACCESS VIOLATION to a config.sub file (/usr/share/libtool/config.sub). This error has been the cause of my frustration for months, so it's nothing that a cvs-update can fix it seems. I believe it's related to my system somehow, but I don't know how exactly. I've even tried chmod 777 config.sub, which didn't work. I'm running out of ideas. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.. Btw, this is regardless of which part of E17 I'm compiling..

what versions of libtool and autotools (automake/autoconf) do you have?

[Mr.Bones]

I get this when trying to run make in e17/libs/imlib2:

make all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/e17/libs/imlib2'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory `/root/e17/libs/imlib2/src'
Making all in lib
make[3]: Entering directory `/root/e17/libs/imlib2/src/lib'
Makefile:294: *** missing separator. Stop.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/libs/imlib2/src/lib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/libs/imlib2/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/libs/imlib2'
make: *** [all] Error 2

line 293 - 295 in Makefile is are...

case "$@" in \
(distclean-* | maintainer-clean-*) list='$(DIST_SUBDIRS)' ;; \
*) list='$(SUBDIRS)' ;; \

any ideas? i also tried compiling edb as per the instructions on the enlightenment site.. no luck. i downloaded it from cvs tonite using the same instructions.

thanks

[gimpel]

Mr. Bones:
does

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export WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.7
export WANT_AUTOCONF=2.5
./autogen.sh

help?

btw: using the -9999 ebuilds massively eases up the install process

[marvin rouge]

Hi !

Strange problem with engage module: screenshot There's no more icon in the engage dock, icon are drawn top left of the screen. Actually, without the "edit mode", the engage dock has 0 size ...
Compilation: a few hours ago.
Tried to delete my ~/.e and to re-populate it, but no luck.
Any idea ?