Mysterious Freeze

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hamster2k1 · Post by **hamster2k1** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:19 pm

But MickKi, what do you have enabled in the BIOS ?

ACPI, APM ?
Do you have both flags on also ?

And do you use xscreensaver ?
i know even if xscreenserver is not actually running, its still in the
background, so I wonder if it could be that sometimes.

But your problem doesn't seems to be related to anything about OpenGL right ?
Not sure if it could be a cronjob... mmm.

I'll try to switch syslog-ng to something else, i'm using that too!

hamster2k1 · Post by **hamster2k1** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:21 pm

mmm but the thing is that, X freeze, but the machine is not jammed. I can still access it via
ssh. Like almost everyone else. So I wonder... mmm

MickKi · Post by **MickKi** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:22 pm

Good stuff, hamster2k1!

I think we might have found the culprit?8O

hamster2k1 · Post by **hamster2k1** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:35 pm

btw, When I said, BIOS, I meant, Kernel!

But, by removing APM from the BIOS it seems that it helped.
Since my mobo doesn't even have APM, but ACPI instead.

But, that fixed my locks up with X. But not with OpenGL games/apps... like World of Warcraft using cedega
and xscreensaver.

yaneurabeya · Post by **yaneurabeya** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:53 pm

Power management has been known to cause the issue. Would you guys with the APM stuff compiled in that have freezing issues change your apm_bios perms to 0777 (I know, not safe but udev's default perms screw up a lot of things on my system and that seems like it could be a hangup)?

You may have found one solution, but not all. There are a variety of issues with freezing here.

ikaro · Post by **ikaro** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:46 pm

Im still having the hardlocks ..
I can reproduce it everytime, all I need to do is, shade[1] firefox fast for some seconds and the result is a hardlock.

[1] I have the mouse wheel bound to shade the windows, roll up shades, roll down unshade.

Doing the same on a terminal, has no effect, that is, no hardlock.

using 2.6.11 vanilla atm.
xorg 6.8.2
agpgart

joehni · Post by **joehni** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:20 pm

joehni wrote: BTW: Disabling fast AGP writes does not help for my system. Next will be Tuttle's settings ...

Tuttle's settings did not help either. Had a freeze again ...

VortexKI · Post by **VortexKI** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:20 pm

Hmm, for me no more freeze since I've limited AGP-Rate to 2X in the BIOS.

hamster2k1 · Post by **hamster2k1** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:18 am

Even in OpenGL applications ?

mmm

yaneurabeya · Post by **yaneurabeya** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:23 am

Just to reiterate...

yaneurabeya wrote:You may have found one solution, but not all. There are a variety of issues with freezing here.

The issue at hand is that this thread has turned into a general X freeze thread instead of detailing specific cases necessarily, which your solution is.

VortexKI · Post by **VortexKI** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:59 am

Even in OpenGL applications ?

Yes, no crashes with OpenGL apps.

Btw:
- upgraded Kernel to 2.6.11.1 vanilla
- added option in "Device" section:
Option "NoBandWidthTest" "True"
- commented out in "Module" section:
# Load "ddc"
# Load "int10"
# Load "record"
# Load "speedo"

Seems to be THE solution for my computer.
I'll see...

amne · Post by **amne** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:02 pm

Moved from Other Things Gentoo as i was told by ikaro on IRC that X.org Lockups is about the same topic. Please use that thread instead.