XGL (Part 4)

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mutlu_inek · Post by **mutlu_inek** » Thu May 04, 2006 4:49 pm

Henning Rogge wrote:I think we should remove the "-kb" from the wiki howto.

Ok. I did that.

Maximus2000 · Post by **Maximus2000** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:46 am

Is there a way to add dock plugin to xgl-testing overlay by coffee?
also has there been a fix for the KDE panels? They are alwas ontop same with kxdocker.

zeek · Post by **zeek** » Fri May 05, 2006 7:08 am

I have Xgl mostly running fine here (followed wiki instructions). However one thing I noticed is that apparently DRI is not working. I have ATI 9600XT.

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zeek@ash ~ $ glxgears
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
30172 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6032.699 FPS
29969 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5971.851 FPS
29972 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5972.026 FPS
29582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5894.498 FPS

zeek@ash ~ $ /opt/ati/bin/fgl_glxgears
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't get fbconfig

Note if I run old school X I don't see the "XFree86-DRI missing ...: error. Any ideas?

KShots · Post by **KShots** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:28 pm

Hey all

I managed to get this beast running by following the wiki (I use the quinnstorm svn repository layout). I've got two problems with it at the moment, however (otherwise, it runs beautifully and error-free)

1. I keep getting miniature copies of my windows that cannot be removed floating around my desktop. They basically reflect what their larger versions are showing. I can high-light them by clicking on them, but there's no apparent way to close them. They do show up on the taskbar as X applications with an undefined symbol for a name (comes up as a box like any other undefined symbol in most fonts ('[]')). I can right-click on these "applications", but the close option is not available. This only happens under compiz.

2. I gotta be honest here... something about it is making me nauseous... and the screen doesn't even have to be doing anything (moving) to make it happen. I really can't explain it. It looks beautiful, but after about 10 minutes I have to look away or risk chucking up my lunch. What the heck could be causing that? I can play 3D games just find for over 24 hours (have in the past), but there's just something about this desktop...

Anyways, here's a list of my current plugins (in order):

gconf,decoration,transset,wobbly,fade,minimize,cube,rotate,zoom,scale,move,resize,place,switcher,trailfocus,water

I have removed the 'Splash' plugin from the fade plugin so that the switcher actually disappears when it's no longer needed (read page 7 or 8 of this thread).

I have updated my svn by going to /usr/portage/local/layman/portage-xgl and running "svn up" (revision 182).

For issue 2 (because it may be relevant), I'm running on a GeForce FX Go 5600 with 8x AGP (everything enabled) at 1440x900. Maybe it can't keep the refresh at 60 Hz? That's the only rate available for this laptop screen. glxgears claims to be getting around 6000 fps (though honestly, it looks choppy (and the initial display was incorrect until I moved the window - it showed a closeup of the "red" gear)). Direct rendering is not enabled (checked glxinfo).

Any ideas on either issue? Thanks

valmar · Post by **valmar** » Fri May 05, 2006 1:14 pm

Hello everybody! I managed to get xgl running thanks to the gentoo wiki howto (amazing), and I only have a few questions about usage. Please bear with me. Thank you. My questions are:

1) Is there a way to change desktops only with the keyboard bindings and disable the mouse gestures completely? As soon as I get slightly close to the border of the screen, the desktop starts to spin and this is giving me a headache.

2) In the rotate plugin, what is the free mode sensitivity for?

3) What are the edgeflip options in move for? Are they for when a window is dragged to another destop?

PS.: If there is a webpage explaining all this, please point me to it and tell me to RTFM!!! I couldn't find any page that answers these questions!

Thank you in advance for all your help!

Valerio

Kragen · Post by **Kragen** » Fri May 05, 2006 1:20 pm

the edgeflip option your talking aboutin (3) is the option your looking for to disable the mouse gestures in (1)

the best place to look is the compiz wiki:

http://wiki.compiz.net/

There is a plugins section that describes a lot of the plugins and their related options.

Henning Rogge · Post by **Henning Rogge** » Fri May 05, 2006 2:52 pm

KShots wrote:I have updated my svn by going to /usr/portage/local/layman/portage-xgl and running "svn up" (revision 183).

I stell get revision 182 ????

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The Task Switcher problem is back on my machine... I did some portage updates (not XGL) yesterday and today I noticed that the task switcher does not vanish anymore... but I did remove the "splash" setting from the fade plugin.

<add>
I tested a few things, it seems that compiz is not getting my gconf configuration anymore...

KShots · Post by **KShots** » Fri May 05, 2006 5:01 pm

Heh, you're probably right, it's likely 182. The installation is on my Laptop, and I wrote this from work from what I remembered - so my memory is probably faulty there (:oops:).

I'll also have to edit my post above that I removed the "splash" plugin from the "fade" plugin, NOT the switcher (again, oops).

As far as compiz ignoring your gconf configuration, are you specifying the config via the command-line, gconf-editor, or both?

You really need to be using one or the other - if you use the command-line and modify via gconf-editor, I believe one overrides the other and I couldn't say which one would take priority. If you are only using one... well... I dono. Just sounds like you're not.

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Fri May 05, 2006 5:22 pm

KShots wrote:Heh, you're probably right, it's likely 182. The installation is on my Laptop, and I wrote this from work from what I remembered - so my memory is probably faulty there (:oops:).

I'll also have to edit my post above that I removed the "splash" plugin from the "fade" plugin, NOT the switcher (again, oops).

As far as compiz ignoring your gconf configuration, are you specifying the config via the command-line, gconf-editor, or both?

You really need to be using one or the other - if you use the command-line and modify via gconf-editor, I believe one overrides the other and I couldn't say which one would take priority. If you are only using one... well... I dono. Just sounds like you're not.

gconf entries override command line entries
also when i did a upgrade the other day using cvs compiz i noticed that the new plugin
folders were added to the plugins folder "/apps/compiz/plugins/etc..." but i still had to add
them manually to the active-plugins "/apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options/active_plugins"

The new feature are awesome. Wish we could get a ebuild to upgrade properly.
David R. and Quinn have added lots of new feature since coffee's xgl-testing 182.

you can go here to see all the latest Quinn updates
http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/

you can go here to see David R. updates
http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/ ... iew=markup

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Fri May 05, 2006 5:24 pm

Henning Rogge wrote:
KShots wrote:I have updated my svn by going to /usr/portage/local/layman/portage-xgl and running "svn up" (revision 183).
I stell get revision 182 ????

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The Task Switcher problem is back on my machine... I did some portage updates (not XGL) yesterday and today I noticed that the task switcher does not vanish anymore... but I did remove the "splash" setting from the fade plugin.

<add>
I tested a few things, it seems that compiz is not getting my gconf configuration anymore...

make sure your xorg-server did NOT upgrade to 1.0.9....
if so then downgrade back to xorg-server-1.0.2-r3

Henning Rogge · Post by **Henning Rogge** » Fri May 05, 2006 5:49 pm

My xorg-server:

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[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r4  USE="dri -debug -ipv6 -minimal -xprint" 0 kB

My compiz starting line:

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LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib compiz --replace gconf decoration transset wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher trailfocus water &

I think both should be okay.

---- <edit>
Did some tests because of my java problem...

My own swing application is running fine on
* sun-jdk-1.4.2.10
* blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03

but not on
* sun-jdk-1.5.0.06

Might be a problem with the new java L&F.

Xamindar · Post by **Xamindar** » Fri May 05, 2006 6:45 pm

just a quick question. I'm at revision 182 and I noticed that it has been there for a while. Did I miss something or has there just not been an update for a while?

mutlu_inek · Post by **mutlu_inek** » Fri May 05, 2006 7:12 pm

Xamindar wrote:just a quick question. I'm at revision 182 and I noticed that it has been there for a while. Did I miss something or has there just not been an update for a while?

That should be right. Same here.

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Fri May 05, 2006 7:25 pm

mutlu_inek wrote:
Xamindar wrote:just a quick question. I'm at revision 182 and I noticed that it has been there for a while. Did I miss something or has there just not been an update for a while?
That should be right. Same here.

Same here as well.
I did notice there is a new overlay setup in the HOWTO, called "layman"
However when i tried it, i still only got rev 182

Compiz from cvs has lots of updates since coffee rev 182

Xamindar · Post by **Xamindar** » Fri May 05, 2006 8:01 pm

Jupiter1TX wrote: I did notice there is a new overlay setup in the HOWTO, called "layman"
However when i tried it, i still only got rev 182

Compiz from cvs has lots of updates since coffee rev 182

Interesting, anyone care to explain the difference?

sixshot · Post by **sixshot** » Fri May 05, 2006 8:18 pm

Does anyone got a screenie of the miniwin or dock plugin in action? Everything runs perfectly fine but the two plugins have me curious as to what they add or present. Would like to know before something blows up in my face. :)

Maximus2000 · Post by **Maximus2000** » Fri May 05, 2006 8:20 pm

Jupiter,
I assume you are installing compiz from cvs. I have checked out the lates compiz cvs and did a configure and make on it. My only question is on the install. Does coffee's overlay install compiz in a different place then quinnstorms cvs tree? Can I do a simple make install and have it replace coffee's compiz-quinnstorm? Any help woud be greatfull.

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Fri May 05, 2006 9:03 pm

Maximus2000 wrote:Jupiter,
I assume you are installing compiz from cvs. I have checked out the lates compiz cvs and did a configure and make on it. My only question is on the install. Does coffee's overlay install compiz in a different place then quinnstorms cvs tree? Can I do a simple make install and have it replace coffee's compiz-quinnstorm? Any help woud be greatfull.

I uninstalled coffee compiz before i used cvs compiz 10.3
I would be carefull with the newer revs in cvs as they require an
updated XGL, Mesa and Glproto if compiling yourself

I beleive the latest cvs compiz is 10.8
and it has LOTS of fixes and updates, look here
http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Fri May 05, 2006 9:06 pm

sixshot wrote:Does anyone got a screenie of the miniwin or dock plugin in action? Everything runs perfectly fine but the two plugins have me curious as to what they add or present. Would like to know before something blows up in my face.

you can go here and look at some nice screenshots
http://compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=527

there is one of my screenshots at the bottom with a good shot of dock

Henning Rogge · Post by **Henning Rogge** » Fri May 05, 2006 10:41 pm

I just recognized that it's a VERY bad idea to start compiz and gnome-window-decorator from the Xstartup file.

If we do this they are both running with root permissions !

Better put a script into your .kde/Autostart !

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#! /bin/sh
compiz --replace gconf decoration transset wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher trailfocus water &
sleep 3
gnome-window-decorator &

<edit>Changed the wiki howto to close this security problem.

didumos · Post by **didumos** » Fri May 05, 2006 11:08 pm

For anyone, like myself, struggling to understand how Xgl works you might find the following guide helpful. It describes (in a simplistic way) the processes that Xgl goes through when starting up and what happens when an OpenGL client is created within Xgl. It uses the Nvidia X driver as part of the example.

You can find it here: How Xgl works

I don't think this has been posted here already but it may have (or people may have seen it anyway if they follow the fd.o lists).

zehnan1 · Post by **zehnan1** » Sat May 06, 2006 12:12 pm

Cairo insist that my autoconf is too old. It is the latest in portage 2.59-r7.
What can be done?

emerge -v1a cairo produces

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>>> Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/cairo-1.1.1_p20060323/work/cairo ...
autogen.sh: ERROR: `autoconf' is too old.
autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59
Written by David J. MacKenzie and Akim Demaille.

Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
           (version 2.54 or newer is required)

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/cairo-1.1.1_p20060323 failed.
Call stack:

!!! autogen failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.

eitan1989 · Post by **eitan1989** » Sun May 07, 2006 3:03 am

Edit: moved to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3305092.html

BlackBelt · Post by **BlackBelt** » Sun May 07, 2006 7:41 am

Hi guys,

I'm following xgl gentoo howto. I had installed xgl and use startxgl to start it. Now I want to use gdm. I don't understand how can I activate all plugins.

can Somebody help me?

EDIT: I have change in /usr/bin/compizrc the string:

DISPLAY=:1 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/ compiz --replace gconf &
DISPLAY=:1 gnome-window-decorator &

with the follow.

DISPLAY=:1 /usr/bin/compiz --replace decoration wobbly fade switcher resize place minimize cube rotate move zoom scale trailfocus water &

KamikazeMicrowave · Post by **KamikazeMicrowave** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:24 am

I'm having issues starting xgl as a normal user. (aka not root) If I ever run any other instance x server before running it as lesser privaleged user it complains about not being able to connect to the port. BUT if I start it as that user before any others it WILL come up but it doesn't have a window decorations. I posted my startxgl script below. Its based off of the gentoo wiki with a little change. The change is bolded. The reason I changed it was because my plugin settings weren't showing up in gconf-editor.

Any ideas?

#!/bin/bash
echo ">Starting XGL at Display: $1"
echo "========= XGL ============"
Xgl :$1 -ac -accel xv -accel glx:pbuffer &
sleep 5
echo "======= COMPIZ ==========="
DISPLAY=:$1 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/ compiz --replace gconf &
sleep 5
echo "====== DECORATIONS ======="
DISPLAY=:$1 gnome-window-decorator &
# sleep 3
echo "======= GNOME ============"
DISPLAY=:$1 /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon &
DISPLAY=:$1 nautilus -n --sync &
DISPLAY=:$1 gnome-panel &
# DISPLAY=:$1 setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout de -variant basic &
#echo "======= LOGOUT ============"
#killall Xgl
# Uncomment the line above if you can't logout from Gnome correctly.

XGL (Part 4)

Security problem with KDE

Compile error