XGL (Part 6)

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SDNick484 · Post by **SDNick484** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:02 pm

nesl247 wrote:gnome-window-decorator doesn't use dbus. Please change XSESSION="<Currnt Value>" to Gnome and make sure it's uncommented in /etc/rc.conf. Once you do that, your start script only needs to contain the start for compiz and cgwd or just compiz-manager in the gnome session manager.

I'm a bit confused; I already had XSESSION uncommented & set to gnome, but I haven't been using cgwd at all so far. For the last few months I've been using a modified version of startxgl (basically dropped the display number & gfx checks since I always use 1 & ati). I'm not sure what I need to set to egt compiz-manager or cgwd to work. Also do I need x11-misc/compiz-quinnstorm-plugins if I'm already using x11-wm/compiz-quinnstorm?

Thanks,
Nick

nesl247 · Post by **nesl247** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:44 pm

SDNick484 wrote:After upgrading to gnome-2.16, I was having touble getting Xgl to work with Gnome (but it worked fine with KDE & Xfce). I was able get it to launch by changing the following in startxgl:
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	DISPLAY=:$1 /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon &
	DISPLAY=:$1 nautilus -n --sync &
	DISPLAY=:$1 gnome-panel
to
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	DISPLAY=:$1 dbus-launch /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon &
	DISPLAY=:$1 dbus-launch nautilus -n --sync &
	DISPLAY=:$1 dbus-launch gnome-panel
Oddly enough, gnome-window-decorator didn't require the change (although I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

SDNick484 wrote:
nesl247 wrote:gnome-window-decorator doesn't use dbus. Please change XSESSION="<Currnt Value>" to Gnome and make sure it's uncommented in /etc/rc.conf. Once you do that, your start script only needs to contain the start for compiz and cgwd or just compiz-manager in the gnome session manager.
I'm a bit confused; I already had XSESSION uncommented & set to gnome, but I haven't been using cgwd at all so far. For the last few months I've been using a modified version of startxgl (basically dropped the display number & gfx checks since I always use 1 & ati). I'm not sure what I need to set to egt compiz-manager or cgwd to work. Also do I need x11-misc/compiz-quinnstorm-plugins if I'm already using x11-wm/compiz-quinnstorm?

Thanks,
Nick

You are using a startxgl script which is poorly designed. The startxgl script should be nothing but a modified startx script. If you are using compiz-quinnstorm you need compiz-quinnstorm-plugins (it's a pdepend). And if you are using compiz-quinnstorm you should be using cgwd anyways. The easiest way to launch compiz is compiz-manager (quinnstorm or not).

gerardo · Post by **gerardo** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:44 pm

Compiz-quinnstorm with cgwd works fine now as a seperate gnome-session.

This problem still remains:
if I go to VT1 -> 6 (with ctrl-alt-F1 -> F6), xorg restarts after about 5 seconds, bringing me back to the gdm login screen.
Any solutions ?

A tip for nvidia-users:
- disable support for agpgart in your kernel and add to your device section of your video card in xorg.conf

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    Option      "RenderAccel"           "true"
    Option      "VideoOverlay"          "on"
    Option      "NvAGP"         "1"
    Option      "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"

- add at the bottom of your xorg.conf

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Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite" "true"
EndSection

Bloot · Post by **Bloot** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:36 pm

gerardo wrote:A tip for nvidia-users:
- disable support for agpgart in your kernel and add to your device section of your video card in xorg.conf
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    Option      "RenderAccel"           "true"
    Option      "VideoOverlay"          "on"
    Option      "NvAGP"         "1"
    Option      "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
- add at the bottom of your xorg.conf
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Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite" "true"
EndSection

And what's the benefit? I've tried and can't find any difference (I also activated composite from the KDE Control Center)

Also:

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(II) Loading extension NV-GLX
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "VideoOverlay" is not used
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.

nesl247 · Post by **nesl247** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:51 am

Alright guys. I've done some nice work and I think the new wiki is in a usable state. Please check it out at: http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org. I know it's not the most detailed right now but I wanted to get it usable first. AiGLX isn't on there yet as I need to do a little research but once I do I'll have it there asap.

I hope for any feedback as I know it's deffinitely not perfect. Thanks,
nesl247 - Alex Heck

Xake · Post by **Xake** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:00 am

Jupiter1TX wrote:
Xake wrote:
Jupiter1TX wrote:i am running evdev driver with my MS wireless PS/2 mouse/keyboard and it all runs fine
with Linux/KDE/Gnome/XGL/Compiz
Strange. For me with my Logitech LX300 it did not start, but as soon as I commented out my mouse-settings. What is your settings for the keyboard and the mouse?
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/event0"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "evdev"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

What about your mouse? My keyboard works (barely) with evdev and xgl (maybe it can be me being a Option "XkbLayout" "se") but it will not even start if I have my mouse using evdev too.

gerardo · Post by **gerardo** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:11 am

Bloot wrote:
gerardo wrote:A tip for nvidia-users:
- disable support for agpgart in your kernel and add to your device section of your video card in xorg.conf
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    Option      "RenderAccel"           "true"
    Option      "VideoOverlay"          "on"
    Option      "NvAGP"         "1"
    Option      "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
- add at the bottom of your xorg.conf
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Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite" "true"
EndSection
And what's the benefit? I've tried and can't find any difference (I also activated composite from the KDE Control Center)

Also:
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(II) Loading extension NV-GLX
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "VideoOverlay" is not used
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.

I found that on the install guide of XGL on Ubuntu, however this might be outdated...
Another thread only talks about the section extensions.
It's hard to find up to date optimisations...
For me, glxgears runs just slightly faster.
I discovered also that glxgears runs al lot faster in xgl than in xorg

I stumbled upon it looking for a solution to my problem:

This problem still remains:
if I go to VT1 -> 6 (with ctrl-alt-F1 -> F6), xorg restarts after about 5 seconds, bringing me back to the gdm login screen.
Any solutions ?

I haven't found any answers yet

ashtophet · Post by **ashtophet** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:43 pm

gerardo, I'm suffering same behavior... nvidia-drivers version?

I guess it all began here with latest nvidia drivers update (so, I guess that's their fault... let's see how it's going when new flashing drivers come along)...

That's very annoying to me, because I use a couple of vt (emacs session, etc.) and cannot keep a X server dying everytime I switch...

massimo · Post by **massimo** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:19 pm

Switching to/from VT[1-6] does not restart my X-server.

I'm using nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1 on my x86 system (AthlonXP 3200+ with a Geforce 6600 GT). I have only got ~x86 packages for the XGL part.

ashtophet · Post by **ashtophet** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:32 pm

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 eix nvidia-drivers
[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers 
     Available versions:  1.0.8762 1.0.8762-r1 1.0.8774
     Installed:           1.0.8774
     Homepage:            http://www.nvidia.com/
     Description:         NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries

I'm on ~x86...
Hmm. I'm gonna try switching to 1.0.8762-r1... let's see...

Thanks...

Jupiter1TX · Post by **Jupiter1TX** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:59 pm

Xake wrote:
Jupiter1TX wrote:
Xake wrote:
Jupiter1TX wrote:i am running evdev driver with my MS wireless PS/2 mouse/keyboard and it all runs fine
with Linux/KDE/Gnome/XGL/Compiz
Strange. For me with my Logitech LX300 it did not start, but as soon as I commented out my mouse-settings. What is your settings for the keyboard and the mouse?
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/event0"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "evdev"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
What about your mouse? My keyboard works (barely) with evdev and xgl (maybe it can be me being a Option "XkbLayout" "se") but it will not even start if I have my mouse using evdev too.

This is what i was using for mouse. I recently upgraded my kernel source and evdev isn't working but,
i believe the problem is something i did wrong on my end. This is a wireless optical mouse with tilt wheel.
Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier and driver

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Buttons" "7"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7 5 4"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/event2"
Option "Dev Name" "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse"
Option "Dev Phys" "isa0060/serio1/input0"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

ashtophet · Post by **ashtophet** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:15 pm

massimo wrote:Switching to/from VT[1-6] does not restart my X-server.

I'm using nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1 on my x86 system (AthlonXP 3200+ with a Geforce 6600 GT). I have only got ~x86 packages for the XGL part.

switching to 1.0.8762-r1 binary drivers did the trick

dR0PS · Post by **dR0PS** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:01 pm

ashtophet wrote:
massimo wrote:Switching to/from VT[1-6] does not restart my X-server.

I'm using nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1 on my x86 system (AthlonXP 3200+ with a Geforce 6600 GT). I have only got ~x86 packages for the XGL part.

switching to 1.0.8762-r1 binary drivers did the trick

i have the same prob switching vt's and tty's leading to a restart of xorg every now and then
not a nice solution but i will try that trick

//EDIT: dual-xgl + switching now works again, so there is hope for 8774-r1

cheers!

Bloot · Post by **Bloot** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:40 pm

nesl247 wrote:Alright guys. I've done some nice work and I think the new wiki is in a usable state. Please check it out at: http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org. I know it's not the most detailed right now but I wanted to get it usable first. AiGLX isn't on there yet as I need to do a little research but once I do I'll have it there asap.

I hope for any feedback as I know it's deffinitely not perfect. Thanks,
nesl247 - Alex Heck

Hey man your work is really appreciated, keep it up, thanks bunches!.

Xake · Post by **Xake** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:32 am

Jupiter1TX wrote:
Xake wrote:
Jupiter1TX wrote:
Xake wrote:
Jupiter1TX wrote:i am running evdev driver with my MS wireless PS/2 mouse/keyboard and it all runs fine
with Linux/KDE/Gnome/XGL/Compiz
Strange. For me with my Logitech LX300 it did not start, but as soon as I commented out my mouse-settings. What is your settings for the keyboard and the mouse?
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/event0"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "evdev"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
What about your mouse? My keyboard works (barely) with evdev and xgl (maybe it can be me being a Option "XkbLayout" "se") but it will not even start if I have my mouse using evdev too.
This is what i was using for mouse. I recently upgraded my kernel source and evdev isn't working but,
i believe the problem is something i did wrong on my end. This is a wireless optical mouse with tilt wheel.
Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier and driver

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "evdev"
Option "Buttons" "7"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7 5 4"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/event2"
Option "Dev Name" "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse"
Option "Dev Phys" "isa0060/serio1/input0"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Well there is no love for me. I have the most simple set up (just identifier, driver and phys (more not needed acording to manpage) and startx starts fine but not startxgl. Commenting out InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" in ServerLayout forceing xorg to find and configure the mouse itself through xf86-input-mouse makes both startx and startxgl works. Could maybe be that I am using a USB keyboard/mouse... have to try that... (logitec wireless desktop LX300)

Oh, and my issues with the keyboard seems to be related to me useing evdev and se, it throws errors at e while changeing setup with setxkbmap...

May-C · Post by **May-C** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:29 pm

Just found that on kde-look.org:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.ph ... 7744047317
Would be a nice thing to have an ebuild for that in the overlay!

gerardo · Post by **gerardo** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:32 pm

ashtophet wrote:
massimo wrote:Switching to/from VT[1-6] does not restart my X-server.

I'm using nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1 on my x86 system (AthlonXP 3200+ with a Geforce 6600 GT). I have only got ~x86 packages for the XGL part.

switching to 1.0.8762-r1 binary drivers did the trick

It must be the combination of XGL + nvidia-drivers 8774 which causes this restart after going to VT1->6. There is no problem with Xorg...

Only the drivers 8774 can work with the 7.1 version of xorg...
Do you still have Xorg ?

BlackBelt · Post by **BlackBelt** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:22 am

Only the drivers 8774 can work with the 7.1 version of xorg...

Yes it is

Do you still have Xorg ?

yes I have

gerardo · Post by **gerardo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:18 am

BlackBelt wrote:
Do you still have Xorg ?
yes I have

Which version ?

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 # emerge -pv =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[blocks B     ] >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1)
[ebuild     UD] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1 [1.0.8774] USE="dlloader" 0 kB

I don't feel like downgrading just for this simple matter... I prefer to continue using xorg then.

massimo · Post by **massimo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:08 am

gerardo wrote: Which version ?

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 # emerge -pv =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[blocks B     ] >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1)
[ebuild     UD] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1 [1.0.8774] USE="dlloader" 0 kB

I don't feel like downgrading just for this simple matter... I prefer to continue using xorg then.

xorg-x11-7.0-r1 is installed on my system

gerardo · Post by **gerardo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:42 am

ashtophet wrote:gerardo, I'm suffering same behavior... nvidia-drivers version?

I guess it all began here with latest nvidia drivers update (so, I guess that's their fault... let's see how it's going when new flashing drivers come along)...

That's very annoying to me, because I use a couple of vt (emacs session, etc.) and cannot keep a X server dying everytime I switch...

I 've just asked a question to nvidia...
I'll post a reply when I receive an answer.

BlackBelt · Post by **BlackBelt** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:02 pm

gerardo wrote:
ashtophet wrote:gerardo, I'm suffering same behavior... nvidia-drivers version?

I guess it all began here with latest nvidia drivers update (so, I guess that's their fault... let's see how it's going when new flashing drivers come along)...

That's very annoying to me, because I use a couple of vt (emacs session, etc.) and cannot keep a X server dying everytime I switch...
I 've just asked a question to nvidia...
I'll post a reply when I receive an answer.

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Nabucodonosor emanuele # eix xorg-server
[I] x11-base/xorg-server 
     Available versions:  1.0.2-r7 1.1.0-r1 1.1.0-r1[1] 1.1.1 1.1.1-r1 1.1.1-r1[1] 1.1.1-r2[1] *1.1.99.3_pre20060802[1]
     Installed:           1.1.1-r2
     Description:         X.Org X servers

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[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers 
     Available versions:  1.0.8762 1.0.8762-r1 1.0.8774
     Installed:           1.0.8774
     Homepage:            http://www.nvidia.com/
     Description:         NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries

bye

pa1983 · Post by **pa1983** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:23 pm

Is there som problems whit apps like xmms and xine? I cant move any of mine to the botom of the screen. not a big problem but its weard that it is som kinde of barier 2/3 down from the top.

ashtophet · Post by **ashtophet** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:47 pm

gerardo wrote:
It must be the combination of XGL + nvidia-drivers 8774 which causes this restart after going to VT1->6. There is no problem with Xorg...

Only the drivers 8774 can work with the 7.1 version of xorg...
Do you still have Xorg ?

You can do:

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 emerge --oneshot --nodeps "=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8762-r1"; echo "=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8774">>/etc/portage/package.mask

so you don't have to downgrade xorg

Desrick771 · Post by **Desrick771** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:40 pm

May-C wrote:Just found that on kde-look.org:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.ph ... 7744047317
Would be a nice thing to have an ebuild for that in the overlay!

here is an ebuild

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# Copyright 1999-2006 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header:

inherit kde

DESCRIPTION="A modified pager applet for kicker to make it work with
compiz."
HOMEPAGE="http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46021"
SRC_URI="http://www.kde-apps.org/content/files/46021-kicker-compiz-3.5.4.tar.gz"

LICENSE="GPL-2"

RESTRICT="nomirror"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86"
IUSE=""

DEPEND="( || ( x11-wm/compiz x11-wm/compiz-quinnstorm ) )"

need-kde 3.5

name it kicker-compiz-3.5.4.ebuild

I've tested it here and it works...

XGL (Part 6)

Switching to VT-1 restarts xorg

Re: Switching to VT-1 restarts xorg

Re: Switching to VT-1 restarts xorg