Xfce 4.4

[geniux]

Are they set in Settings -> Keyboard Preferences?

[chuanshi]

the workspace # settings are actually under settings => window manager settings => keyboard tab

but when i set it there (default hot key is control+f#), f1 and f2 still don't work...

any other suggestions?

[ichbinsisyphos]

i had to add these to package.unmask and .keywords to make the extras meta-ebuild work, maybe it saves somebody some time

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### xfce4-4.4-extras ###

xfce-base/xfce4-extras

xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman
xfce-extra/xfce4-xfapplet
xfce-extra/xfce4-fsguard
xfce-extra/xfce4-mailwatch
xfce-extra/xfce4-notes
xfce-extra/xfce4-datetime
xfce-extra/xfce4-weather
xfce-extra/verve
xfce-extra/xfce4-netload
xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb
xfce-extra/xfce4-quicklauncher
xfce-extra/xfce4-screenshooter
xfce-extra/xfce4-mount
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph
xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload
xfce-extra/xfce4-genmon
xfce-extra/xfce4-timer
xfce-extra/xfce4-dict
xfce-extra/xfce4-diskperf
xfce-extra/xfce4-taskmanager
xfce-extra/xfce4-smartbookmark

but hey i have another problem. when i delete objects on my desktop, they dont disappear. only after a reboot (maybe restarting xfce would be enough).
whats up with that?

[dj_farid]

Is there a way to make the two slits (or whatever they are called, one with clock and some applications. The other with the desktops) into one, that looks and behaves like the slit in Fluxbox and MS Windows?

In my opinion having one slit at the top of the screen and one on the bottom takes too much space of my screen.
I have moved both of them to the bottom of my screen. Now there is some unused space between the two.

[ilm]

Ummm..... you could remove one and put all the different plugins, etc. onto the one panel (panel, not slit )

[dj_farid]

Ummm..... you could remove one and put all the different plugins, etc. onto the one panel (panel, not slit )

Oh yeah, I just realized that they are called panels

I never thought that the things in the panel are just plugins.
Is there a difference between the two panels? Does it matter which one I remove, and which one I keep? I guess not...

[ilm]

I don't think it matters.... but the one down the bottom is labelled "Panel 2" by default. To change one, including its locations, etc., just right-click it and choose "customize panel".

[dj_farid]

Thanks! I managed to get it one step closer to what I want.

I really don't understand why there are two panels as a default. Good thing that it was so easy to get rid of it

[mirko_3]

In case someone didn't notice, thunar-volman is in portage...

[ilm]

Each to their own... but I personally prefer having two panels. I have all my status-notification related stuff up the top (as it saves me tilting my head downwards), and my program-choosing stuff down the bottom so as not to take up too much space up the top (I keep running out of room!!!!!!!!!)

[Dieter@be]

Each to their own... but I personally prefer having two panels. I have all my status-notification related stuff up the top (as it saves me tilting my head downwards), and my program-choosing stuff down the bottom so as not to take up too much space up the top (I keep running out of room!!!!!!!!!)

I just have everything on 1 panel.. on top since each program's menus are on top i find it logical to also place the xfce panel there, so i don't have to move the mouse over such big distances

[dhave]

Each to their own... but I personally prefer having two panels. I have all my status-notification related stuff up the top (as it saves me tilting my head downwards), and my program-choosing stuff down the bottom so as not to take up too much space up the top (I keep running out of room!!!!!!!!!)

I just have everything on 1 panel.. on top since each program's menus are on top i find it logical to also place the xfce panel there, so i don't have to move the mouse over such big distances

There's a pretty well-known usability study that showed that having the panel or whatever other kinds of program launchers at the top of the screen is more efficient. Or at least that's what I read on a Mac discussion board a few years ago. The premise is that it's easier for the eye to track the top of the screen, and since there's a strong link between hand and eye, that's where most of the mouse cursor interaction should be. I've lost the reference, however.

[b3cks]

In case someone didn't notice, thunar-volman is in portage...

Yeah, thanks for advice. Works greats here!

[baigsabeeh]

Each to their own... but I personally prefer having two panels. I have all my status-notification related stuff up the top (as it saves me tilting my head downwards), and my program-choosing stuff down the bottom so as not to take up too much space up the top (I keep running out of room!!!!!!!!!)

I just have everything on 1 panel.. on top since each program's menus are on top i find it logical to also place the xfce panel there, so i don't have to move the mouse over such big distances

I use 1 panel also. It's quite simple for me as my program choosing stuff is actually in the configurable section in the menu.

On my panel in order:

Pager with 4 workspaces, Iconbox (instead of Task List), Separator, Verve, Sep., Sesnors, Sep., Weather, Clipman, Notes, Mixser, Sep., System Tray, Clock.

32 px , i think 75% transparency and opaque on hover. My desktop has three things, Home, System, and Trash. I don't need anything else on there and i tlooks sleek the way it is.

And I'm using Thunar-Volman right now. It's very nice, I plugged in my Creative Zen after configuring Volman and it did exactly as I said, automatically browse upon detection.

[dschep]

So I just installed xfce4.4, I'm really liking it so far but have 2 issues. Compositing doesn't work and terminal won't launch.

note: i did use the xcomposite use flag on xfce-base/xfwm4

I have following things in my xorg.conf

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Option      "RenderAccel" "true"

(in the Device sections)
and...

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Section "Extensions"
	Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
	Option    "Xinerama" "true"
EndSection

Now for the terminal.. when I run terminal I get the following

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The program 'terminal' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
  (Details: serial 262 error_code 8 request_code 1 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)

[baigsabeeh]

So I just installed xfce4.4, I'm really liking it so far but have 2 issues. Compositing doesn't work and terminal won't launch.

note: i did use the xcomposite use flag on xfce-base/xfwm4

I have following things in my xorg.conf

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Option      "RenderAccel" "true"

(in the Device sections)
and...

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Section "Extensions"
	Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
	Option    "Xinerama" "true"
EndSection

Now for the terminal.. when I run terminal I get the following

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The program 'terminal' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
  (Details: serial 262 error_code 8 request_code 1 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)

For compositing, I think you need to add this to your Xorg.conf in the Screen section.

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 Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"

It mentions something about GDK, so maybe recompiling it might help, but I have no clue why Terminal will not run. Did you do an update recently?

[dschep]

For compositing, I think you need to add this to your Xorg.conf in the Screen section.

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 Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"

It mentions something about GDK, so maybe recompiling it might help, but I have no clue why Terminal will not run. Did you do an update recently?

I have

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Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"

in both my Screen sections.
EDIT: it xfwm4 give this warning when I launch it manualy

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** (xfwm4:30603): WARNING **: The display does not support the XRandr extension.

and I just emerge -C 'd terminal and re emerged it.. and I now get a similar but larger error message from terminal

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Unable to register terminal service: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
The program 'terminal' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
  (Details: serial 262 error_code 8 request_code 1 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)

[baigsabeeh]

Do you have the xrandr and libXrandr packages installed? What is your graphics card?

I'm at a loss witht he second error. I have no clue what to do there.

[dschep]

Do you have the xrandr and libXrandr packages installed? What is your graphics card?

I'm at a loss witht he second error. I have no clue what to do there.

yea, they're both installed. I have a nvidia 7800gt using nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776

[baigsabeeh]

How did you configure your X server? You should use the nVidia utility available on their website.

[dschep]

Ok, got everything working.. apparently xRandR doesn't play nice with Xinerama

[immudium]

So I tried out the xfce-extra/thunar-volman and it seems to work quite well. However, I've got some strange quirk with removable devices that I've had with thunar even before installing thunar-volman. When I plug in my ipod, for example, I basically get two ipod nodes. One that says "Apple iPod Music Player" and one that says just "IPOD". If I click on the first one, I get a popup dialog with a message that says

Failed to mount "Apple iPod Music Player".
Given device "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_part1_size_82220544" is not a volume or drive.

Clicking on the second node displays the mounted contents of the ipod which is correct and corresponds to the /mnt/ipod entry in my /etc/fstab.

Does anybody know what generates that first node and how to get rid of it? It looks to me like something that hal is generating, but since hal support is a requirement of thunar for removable storage mounting, is there some sort of special way to configure removable devices that I'm missing? Does anyone else have this problem? I have pmount and ivman installed. I tried disabling ivman since thunar-volman makes this redundant, but the duplicate node still remains both in thunar and on the desktop. Perhaps there is some gnome package that I've picked up by accident that is generating the new node which thunar then uses?

It also happens with my other removable drives and it's always a guessing game trying to pick which node is the real, mounted node and not the one that will throw up the error message.

[mirko_3]

Might be that one is the ipod's firmware partition, the other one the data... But if it happens with other devices as well, maybe it's something else..

[Dieter@be]

At first I reverted to the previous RC2 version, but then I thought "what the hell, why even bother?". So I went back to gnome-terminal. Perhaps I'll try out Terminal again by the time Xfce 4.6.0 has been released.

I've made a diff to the previous version and the changes are really small, one of the possibility is serious bug in gtk+-2.10 or vte (terminal is using vte with real transperancy)some of the libs it uses as all the changes are ifdef'd against these, there is also one place where there is possible bug, but I'll test it and report.
On second thought it does not make sense - if gtk+ and vte are buggy this means that gnome-terminal would be also so slow - so the problem is somewhere in the changes.

I've been told by the xfce community that indeed vte is the cause of Terminals slowness.
i'm currently using vte 0.14.1 . which is the latest in portage (both masked or unmasked), 0.15.1 (not even in portage yet) is said to be even slower.
The latest previous version in portage is 0.12.2. I installed this one again, recompiled terminal, but still the painfull slowness as a result...
even with or without RenderAccell and AllowGLXWithComposite enabled. ****

[cornhoulio]

Hi,

I have a problem with the extras.

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emerge -p xfce4-extras

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[blocks B     ] >=xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.3 (is blocking xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd-0.3.0-r1)
[blocks B     ] >=xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.3 (is blocking xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop-0.4.0-r2)
...

I didn't have the xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.3 on my system.
How to solve this blocker?

Here is my package.keywords:

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xfce-base/libxfce4util
xfce-base/libxfce4mcs
xfce-base/libxfcegui4
xfce-base/xfce4-panel
xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager
xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer
xfce-base/xfprint
xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme
xfce-extra/mousepad
xfce-extra/exo
xfce-extra/terminal
xfce-base/orage
xfce-base/thunar
xfce-base/xfdesktop
xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder
xfce-base/xfce-utils
xfce-base/xfwm4
x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce
xfce-base/xfce4-session
xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes
xfce-base/xfce4
xfce-extra/xfce4-dev-tools
xfce-extra/thunar-archive
xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman
xfce-extra/xfce4-diskperf
xfce-extra/xfce4-genmon
xfce-extra/xfce4-mount
xfce-extra/xfce4-notes
xfce-extra/xfce4-quicklauncher
xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors
xfce-extra/xfce4-smartbookmark
xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload
xfce-extra/xfce4-weather
xfce-extra/xfce4-xfapplet
xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb
xfce-extra/xfce4-wavelan 
xfce-extra/thunar-media-tags
xfce-extra/thunar-volman 
xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd
xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop
xfce-extra/xfce4-battery
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph