JKosasih wrote:Pwnz3r(learn to spell):
Ha. Do you see anywhere in my post that says that your opinion sucks? Do you see anywhere in my post that implies that OS X is god in the desktop area? All I said is what you could do with the dock (which i gathered that you implied that they are all big) and also addressed some things people have said (i.e. on the first page, someone said that you couldn't change fonts) and I've also corrected you. Hmmm... And I also have my own opinions on people that do the stuff I describe which necessarily didn't have to be you. Thanks for misinterpreting and for the name calling too.
Asking friends and doing research isn't the same as using it. There isn't anything more I can say about this.
::sigh:: Jesus. Another reason why Linux won't make it to masses. I already know about what you describe. Sure that's an 'advantage'. But for most people, they won't be able to fix stuff if X crashes. What the point of having this if people won't do this?
BTW, you're refuting my opinions. And how about you taking a lesson or two on reading comprehension.
I don't know how the hell I refuted your opinions. I said in almost every paragraph that it was IMO or what I though/like/dislike. Trying to make me seem like a bad guy is stupid and a waste of time, and it only seems as if you want to try to be a big hyppocrite.
You tried to trash my opinions on expose and the other things that annoy me, however, on the other hand I tried to show you that you did that. Never once do I recall seeing anything stating that it was your opinion, and you need to make it clear that it is on forums. Maybe it's because you only have two posts here so far, but hopefully later on you come to realize that your opinion is your opinion and it's useless in an attempt to say that mine is wrong because you happen to like Mac OS X.
If you did try giving your opinion, you did it in a way too aggressive way, like a flamer trying to attack mine. Maybe your English sucks or something, so take a few tips. Your fancy opinions that you toss around as facts and attempts to make me seem bad and accuse me of refuting your opinion with mine are useless wastes of tme. I stated that I had a different opinion in the post before, and then you had the audacity to try to tear apart almost everything I said and say that "expose is beautiful on my desktop" as if that were a clear fact, although it's your opinion.
Maybe you're young or something, say around 14. Why do I think that way you may ask? Well, you're trying to make me seem like the bad guy here and are blaming everything on me when it was the fault of your ranting little post when you flashed your opinions around as fact. For example, saying:
It sucks to see some window managers not utilizing the power of today's computers. Even KDE+GNOME/X are far behind Aqua/Quartz and the future Avalon (I believe) in Longhorn. Non-unified systems suck (in general).
In that statement you are directly implying that "Non-unified systems suck (in general)" and are therefor saying that it is a fact. You didn't say "In my opinion", but "in general", therefor declaring your dislike for non-unity as a fact that everyone should accept and not your opinion.
The funny part is that you (who obviously uses OS X) were quick to attack Linux for being non-unified, whereas Wilburpan proved otherwise:
wilburpan wrote:OS X is also layered. Remember -- it's a *nix based operating system. A schematic of this is on this page on the Apple website.
However, you had the audacity to tell me to "How about using OS X before saying stuff about it?" while you actually use it and decided to bitch about something instead of doing research. See, that's why I didn't state that Mac OS X wasn't layered, but instead typed that I'm not sure and was not about to be a pathological liar.
I remember debating like this when I was younger(around 13) because I thought with all my heart that the GCN was the best. So unless you're the same age that I was then, grow up. I'm not too lazy to try OS X, I just plain don't know anyone who has it that lives around me and we're having financial trouble so when I get new computer parts I pay for them myself. I don't have time to buy a system that must be fully upgraded in order to make it upgraded with overpriced components that I can buy much cheaper on NewEgg.com. That's right, some people don't have lots of money.
As for Linux not being user-friendly, think of it this way.... A little kid uses his/her first computer and it's running Linux. As they get older, they're used to it and begin to learn commands on it. The one they're sat in front of a Windows computer. Just like people that switch from Windows to Linux often need a GUI config tool, users that try Windows after using Linux most of their life are probably going to find it confusing and look for text/XML files to change the settings. Since most of the software costs money in Windows, they're not going to be used to that at all and programs like Winamp might look weird to them making them prefer XMMS/BMP over it.
The world can learn about Linux, if they start young. I myself have my box and my mom's box both running Gentoo Linux. My brother's laptop runs WinXP but he's starting to hate it after all the viruses and other crap. My mom uses GNOME and does fine with it, and that's what my 5 year-old nephew who lives with us will be using (which he does).
Linux isn't non-user friendly, it's just that most people start on Windows and therefor are more confused when it comes to Linux since they're used to wizards and things holding their hands. Personally(indicates upcoming opinion), proprietary licenses annoy me which is why I use ogg and am going to convert all my floppies to ext2 soon.
is the reaction you'll get.
