X.org 7.3

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Master Shake · Post by **Master Shake** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:48 pm

rek2 wrote:so I read mixed posts..
can answer me a simple questions?
can nvidia users upgradeto the new Xorg or not yet?
it is stable?

Thanks.

I had some issues. But everything so far is fine. I'd say go for it.

naseweis · Post by **naseweis** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:54 pm

I should have mentioned that I have an nvidia card.

jonnevers · Post by **jonnevers** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:58 pm

rek2 wrote:so I read mixed posts..
can answer me a simple questions?
can nvidia users upgradeto the new Xorg or not yet?
it is stable?

Thanks.

yes. the original issue with the nvidia-drivers is that they weren't updated for xorg07.3's new ABI.

nvidia-drivers-100.14.19 corrected this issue.

nvidia-drivers-100.14.19 + xorg-7.3 works perfectly fine on my amd64 system.

i-right-i · Post by **i-right-i** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:59 pm

rek2 wrote:so I read mixed posts..
can answer me a simple questions?
can nvidia users upgradeto the new Xorg or not yet?
it is stable?

Thanks.

You can upgrade pretty reliably if you have a Nvidia FX (5XXX) card or later as there is a new driver for that series. Older cards do not have a driver yet with the ABI changes, some people have gotten older cards to work by disabling composite and using the --ignoreABI option, your milage may vary though. There is an issue still with the keyboard scroll lock, num lock, and caps lock lights.

Since its not in the stable tree, then Offically no, it's not stable.

If you don't have any specific reason to upgrade or if it will work for you or not, then I would advise against it at this time, and wait for it to go stable.

I am running 7.3, but I am not seeing any vast improvements in anything so far.

~i-right-i

jonnevers · Post by **jonnevers** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:24 pm

i-right-i wrote:I am running 7.3, but I am not seeing any vast improvements in anything so far.

one of the 'vast' improvements is hot plugging input devices, are you set up to use this new functionality? if you are still using your existing xorg.conf from xorg-7.2 then you wouldn't really see 'vast' improvments.

Master Shake · Post by **Master Shake** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:29 pm

If I take out the sections for my mouse and keyboard, xorg will configure them with no issues now?

i-right-i · Post by **i-right-i** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:57 pm

jonnevers wrote:
i-right-i wrote:I am running 7.3, but I am not seeing any vast improvements in anything so far.
one of the 'vast' improvements is hot plugging input devices, are you set up to use this new functionality? if you are still using your existing xorg.conf from xorg-7.2 then you wouldn't really see 'vast' improvments.

Yes I am setup for this, and yes Xorg will detect them now. But since I do not change input devices ever, to me the point is moot. So again, there are no significant, vast, major, blinding, uber, woot (whatever you choose to put in quotes) .....changes from what I am seeing.

~i-right-i

naseweis · Post by **naseweis** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:18 pm

I managed to downgrade by downgrading xorg-server as first package with "--nodeps". I assume unmerging xorg-server before re-emerging anything would do the trick too.

Hwoarang · Post by **Hwoarang** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:03 pm

I just upgraded Xorg to 7.3. Everything is ok except one thing

One boot I show this message " "gdm" Uknown username on Message bus" . I havent seen that before. Any idea? I wonder why it says "gdm" since I am using KDE

tarpman · Post by **tarpman** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:42 pm

I've updated to the new xorg-x11-7.3 and corresponding nvidia-drivers on both my machines, and noticed the same problem on both of them: compositing is ridiculously slow. My laptop uses openbox with xcompmgr and my desktop uses beryl; my terminal on both is a transparent borderless rxvt-unicode, and opening or resizing a terminal can take almost a second - the bigger the new size, the worse it is. During that time, one CPU core is going at 100%. Additionally, activating the transparent cube in beryl gives a noticeably bigger FPS penalty than it did before. Anyone else experiencing this issue or able to suggest a fix? My xorg.conf has not changed from xorg-x11-7.2, where it worked fine on both systems.

widremann · Post by **widremann** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:11 am

There's a message on the xorg mailing list about how this release was a bit munged. A lot of critical bugs weren't fixed and things weren't packaged properly. QA was severely lacking, probably because they tried to get the release out the door on the (already delayed) deadline. For me, it was broken out of the box, with numerous regressions worse than even 7.2. I'm still stuck on 7.1 because that's the only X server that has fast EXA + compositing. I really wish I could upgrade, but they have time and again failed to fix EXA slowness bugs that I have reported so many times on blogs, forums, mailing lists and bug reports. I watch the commit logs every day hoping that something is done, but I just doubt it. I guess I'm waiting for 7.4...

Hwoarang · Post by **Hwoarang** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:06 am

I dont see any difference from Xorg 7.2 FPS are as low as on 7.2 . Composite is still slow. In my opinion this upgrade was worthless. I am considering going back to 7.2

enderandrew · Post by **enderandrew** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:20 am

I thought 7.3 was going to also have an improved xrandr app, as well as the ability to change the resolution of your mouse.

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