World of Warcraft Linux Port Petition

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gentoo_lan · Post by **gentoo_lan** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:21 am

Signed #20586. Nothing is probably going to happen though.

Marctraider · Post by **Marctraider** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:24 am

I actually hope they wont do anything else we start getting WoW addicting Linux people, perhaps even Linus himself lol

/carlito · Post by **/carlito** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:16 pm

Signed it #20627

(l)user · Post by **(l)user** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:14 pm

Grow up people. It won't ever happen.

SKLP · Post by **SKLP** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:39 am

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... #post11926

Just so you know....

_r00t- · Post by **_r00t-** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:11 am

SKLP wrote:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... #post11926

Just so you know....

know what?

Aynjell · Post by **Aynjell** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:08 am

(l)user wrote:Grow up people. It won't ever happen.

Sounds good to me. I'll continue ignoring the desperate condition of linux gaming... because I'm mature and grown up. IT's the right thing to do after all. I mean honestly... I'd hate to make myself look immature by signing a petition that symbolizes my desire to use a linux based world of warcraft client... even if it doesn't ever happen, it doesn't make me any less grown up for signing.

Making comments like you did, however, does.

wolf31o2 · Post by **wolf31o2** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:46 pm

Wow. I'm amazed that there's 20,000 people that are signing a stupid online petition that will never be read by Blizzard. I know that what I am going to say is going to be unpopular, and I honestly do not care. I am simply going to try to tell you what I have seen in my experiences.

Why don't you people do something actually constructive for Linux gaming, like actually submitting patches for any of the hundreds of Linux games and other open source games out there?

Even if you want to tell Blizzard what you think, do it correctly. Filling out your name on some form somewhere out in the vastness of cyberspace does nothing but gives you the warm fuzzies for being a tool. How about instead you take the time to write up a legible hand-written letter and mail it to Blizzard? This is something that I have learned from friends in politics. Nobody cares about email/online petitions because they are easily forgable, and have no intrinsic value. Instead, a well-written letter explaining how you would easily purchase not only the game, but would also become a subscriber were the game to be ported to your favorite platform will. Then again, I bet most of you already play the game under Windows, and therefore, your opinion doesn't matter. You've already told Blizzard that you're willing to either run the game under Windows or play it under emulation. They have your money. They don't care what you think. The best time for doing this sort of thing is early in the development process. Let them know that you will buy the game if it is ported to Linux. I mean, what incentive do they have when 20,000 anonymous asshats on the Internet say "We want a Linux port! (but we've already bought the game for Windows since there isn't one and you won't get any more revenue from us anyway)" rather than showing them potential sales and revenue?

I know this sounds a bit harsh, but I've worked in the software industry. Signing an online petition isn't contributing. It isn't helping. It's something people do when they're too lazy to actually contribute.

Want to see World of Warcraft on Linux?

WRITE BLIZZARD and tell them so. Don't call them, either. A hand-written letter shows the company that you truly are passionate enough about something to take time out of your little online world to actually do something in the only place that matters to companies -- meatspace.

gaminggeek · Post by **gaminggeek** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:37 pm

+5 interesting

Aynjell · Post by **Aynjell** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:55 am

wolf31o2 wrote:Wow. I'm amazed that there's 20,000 people that are signing a stupid online petition that will never be read by Blizzard. I know that what I am going to say is going to be unpopular, and I honestly do not care. I am simply going to try to tell you what I have seen in my experiences.

Why don't you people do something actually constructive for Linux gaming, like actually submitting patches for any of the hundreds of Linux games and other open source games out there?

Even if you want to tell Blizzard what you think, do it correctly. Filling out your name on some form somewhere out in the vastness of cyberspace does nothing but gives you the warm fuzzies for being a tool. How about instead you take the time to write up a legible hand-written letter and mail it to Blizzard? This is something that I have learned from friends in politics. Nobody cares about email/online petitions because they are easily forgable, and have no intrinsic value. Instead, a well-written letter explaining how you would easily purchase not only the game, but would also become a subscriber were the game to be ported to your favorite platform will. Then again, I bet most of you already play the game under Windows, and therefore, your opinion doesn't matter. You've already told Blizzard that you're willing to either run the game under Windows or play it under emulation. They have your money. They don't care what you think. The best time for doing this sort of thing is early in the development process. Let them know that you will buy the game if it is ported to Linux. I mean, what incentive do they have when 20,000 anonymous asshats on the Internet say "We want a Linux port! (but we've already bought the game for Windows since there isn't one and you won't get any more revenue from us anyway)" rather than showing them potential sales and revenue?

I know this sounds a bit harsh, but I've worked in the software industry. Signing an online petition isn't contributing. It isn't helping. It's something people do when they're too lazy to actually contribute.

Want to see World of Warcraft on Linux?

WRITE BLIZZARD and tell them so. Don't call them, either. A hand-written letter shows the company that you truly are passionate enough about something to take time out of your little online world to actually do something in the only place that matters to companies -- meatspace.

And that's all well and good, and some of us are not there yet. Just because you are capable of hacking out useful patches doesn't mean somebody like me isn't trying to learn to do that. I've been using PC's for like... 2 years now... and I already know basic C/C++, how to comfortably use linux, and can work my way through most bugs with basic troubleshooting... not everybody can do that, and I know for damn sure I can't do what you do yet, but I'm trying. And honestly... if we all wrote blizzard, how much do you think that'd matter to them? Any more than an online petition? I appreciate what you and other developers do for linux gaming, and trust you me, I have my plans too... but taking 2 seconds to sing a petition isn't a waste of time. It's two measly little seconds...

When I get a day off, (which is fewer and farrer between than you might think) I'll write one of these letters, and I encourage others to do so, after all... anything could help.

I do agree that most companies could dismiss these online petitions, but at least it's something. Good advise, though, wolf.

TheWitePony · Post by **TheWitePony** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:40 am

We want a Linux port! (but we've already bought the game for Windows since there isn't one and you won't get any more revenue from us anyway)" rather than showing them potential sales and revenue?

You're damn right! I need my crack. I bought it for Windows, as I believe everyone else here that has a deep-seeded desire to play this game has.

So, there's actually nothing in it for Blizz in making a Linux version, as we all seem to be able to put the time/effort getting it to run by other means Wine/Cedega, or just cave completely and keep a Windows partition for the sole purpose of playing it.

It almost certainly will never happen, and I doubt anything we do will change Blizz's mind about it, but it would be sweet if they did release a Linux native version.

I'm just thankful that we have options like Wine/Cedega that run the game so well. I don't think I could tolerate having a Windows partition on my box.

IvanHoe · Post by **IvanHoe** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:55 pm

At this point I wouldn't buy World of Warcraft even if there was a Linux version.

sykonet · Post by **sykonet** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:09 pm

wolf31o2 wrote:Wow. I'm amazed that there's 20,000 people that are signing a stupid online petition that will never be read by Blizzard. I know that what I am going to say is going to be unpopular, and I honestly do not care. I am simply going to try to tell you what I have seen in my experiences.

Why don't you people do something actually constructive for Linux gaming, like actually submitting patches for any of the hundreds of Linux games and other open source games out there?

Even if you want to tell Blizzard what you think, do it correctly. Filling out your name on some form somewhere out in the vastness of cyberspace does nothing but gives you the warm fuzzies for being a tool. How about instead you take the time to write up a legible hand-written letter and mail it to Blizzard? This is something that I have learned from friends in politics. Nobody cares about email/online petitions because they are easily forgable, and have no intrinsic value. Instead, a well-written letter explaining how you would easily purchase not only the game, but would also become a subscriber were the game to be ported to your favorite platform will. Then again, I bet most of you already play the game under Windows, and therefore, your opinion doesn't matter. You've already told Blizzard that you're willing to either run the game under Windows or play it under emulation. They have your money. They don't care what you think. The best time for doing this sort of thing is early in the development process. Let them know that you will buy the game if it is ported to Linux. I mean, what incentive do they have when 20,000 anonymous asshats on the Internet say "We want a Linux port! (but we've already bought the game for Windows since there isn't one and you won't get any more revenue from us anyway)" rather than showing them potential sales and revenue?

I know this sounds a bit harsh, but I've worked in the software industry. Signing an online petition isn't contributing. It isn't helping. It's something people do when they're too lazy to actually contribute.

Want to see World of Warcraft on Linux?

WRITE BLIZZARD and tell them so. Don't call them, either. A hand-written letter shows the company that you truly are passionate enough about something to take time out of your little online world to actually do something in the only place that matters to companies -- meatspace.

Agreed. Well said.

Matteo Azzali · Post by **Matteo Azzali** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:03 pm

wolf31o2 wrote: Why don't you people do something actually constructive for Linux gaming, like actually submitting patches for any of the hundreds of Linux games and other open source games out there?

There are more than 20'000 linux users that plays WoW (in wine or in windows partition). There AREN'T so much people playing gnudoku or gearhead.
Why? Other than the colourful graphics, the animations (all is moving in wow) and the detail, the interface, the gameplay (you can find something else to
do in any situation, sick of monster? Pvp.Sick of pvp?battlegrounds. Sick of any combat? Tradeskills and trade , even fishing and fishing related quests)
what's there?

If you feel fine playing the 700'000 game with old gameplay,old graphics and nasty interface you are free to do, for my tastes there aren't more than
30 native linux games that can be saved (Vega strike, frozen bubble, lincity, foobilliard, tremulous, nextui etc.etc.).
I just whish that linux game programmers/artists could join efforts learning to use ogre/blender3d/wings3d and other similar tools instead of creating
another tetris clone that use ncurses (that has nothing wrong as a programming exercise, but doesn't compare to WoW please....)

deadstar · Post by **deadstar** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:37 pm

Matteo Azzali wrote:
If you feel fine playing the 700'000 game with old gameplay,old graphics and nasty interface you are free to do, for my tastes there aren't more than
30 native linux games that can be saved (Vega strike, frozen bubble, lincity, foobilliard, tremulous, nextui etc.etc.).
I just whish that linux game programmers/artists could join efforts learning to use ogre/blender3d/wings3d and other similar tools instead of creating
another tetris clone that use ncurses (that has nothing wrong as a programming exercise, but doesn't compare to WoW please....)

Absolutely well said. I've been playing with ogre for some time now, I have neither the expertise nor time to create a full-blown game but I know enough to say that this engine is the BOMB!

We are very much lacking open source games featuring all the eye-candy and hype of modern Windows games.

Imagine if all the programmers on this forum got together and started our own MMORPG using the above engines. It would me amazing!

Hunter555 · Post by **Hunter555** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:05 am

deadstar wrote:
Absolutely well said. I've been playing with ogre for some time now, I have neither the expertise nor time to create a full-blown game but I know enough to say that this engine is the BOMB!

We are very much lacking open source games featuring all the eye-candy and hype of modern Windows games.

Imagine if all the programmers on this forum got together and started our own MMORPG using the above engines. It would me amazing!

http://wiki.kruel.org/index.php/Praeliu ... n_Document could be one such project some day.

Uses Ogre too.

deadstar · Post by **deadstar** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:55 pm

Hunter555 wrote:
deadstar wrote:
Absolutely well said. I've been playing with ogre for some time now, I have neither the expertise nor time to create a full-blown game but I know enough to say that this engine is the BOMB!

We are very much lacking open source games featuring all the eye-candy and hype of modern Windows games.

Imagine if all the programmers on this forum got together and started our own MMORPG using the above engines. It would me amazing!
http://wiki.kruel.org/index.php/Praeliu ... n_Document could be one such project some day. Uses Ogre too.

Link doesn't work

crashhigh · Post by **crashhigh** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:38 pm

hei, deadstar, the link actually works and it looks pretty good although there will be a lots of work to do to fullfill the project.

Right now, I am writing an article about linux gaming as my assignment (i'm learning how to make video games right now), and i guess it is worth mentioning about the petition even I am not a petition guy at all - it's still glad to know that we have more and more linux gamers.

remix · Post by **remix** » Wed May 10, 2006 2:13 pm

signed, i still have the mouse bug (can't right click on anyone/thing), but other than that, wow is great on wine for me.

that's a lot of signatures.

Krogen · Post by **Krogen** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:29 pm

*Signed*

If enough signatures would be submitted, I still doubt it would have any effect.

Mad_Coder · Post by **Mad_Coder** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:29 pm

I think maybe blizzard is evil, kinda like the orcs was when they were under the influence of demons(warcraft3).
So once microsoft stops poisoning the water the blizzard developers are drinking of, all should be well.

maybe balmer is the culprit, he looks like a demon to me.

and those complaining or doing online petitons should just:

Step 0 : Stop complaining about closed source games(only the evil codeholders can port it)
Step 1 : Learn programming c/c++/java etc..
Step 2 : Read the redbook about opengl, learn how to use opengl
Step 3 : Join/create a game programming community
Step 4 : Make a good game and release it as an opensourced game(now people can port it all over the place)
Step 5 : eat hot dogs or melba toasts
Step 6 : Stop buying games that does not run natively on linux
Step 7 : buy games that run natively on linux

aharper78 · Post by **aharper78** » Sun May 28, 2006 10:35 pm

Mad_Coder wrote:I think maybe blizzard is evil, kinda like the orcs was when they were under the influence of demons(warcraft3).
So once microsoft stops poisoning the water the blizzard developers are drinking of, all should be well.

maybe balmer is the culprit, he looks like a demon to me.

and those complaining or doing online petitons should just:

Step 0 : Stop complaining about closed source games(only the evil codeholders can port it)
Step 1 : Learn programming c/c++/java etc..
Step 2 : Read the redbook about opengl, learn how to use opengl
Step 3 : Join/create a game programming community
Step 4 : Make a good game and release it as an opensourced game(now people can port it all over the place)
Step 5 : eat hot dogs or melba toasts
Step 6 : Stop buying games that does not run natively on linux
Step 7 : buy games that run natively on linux

Agree completly!. Why would blizz develop something that would waste resorces and $$$ on somthing that a fraction of a % would even use? Plus that may leave the game open for exploitation.

otherside · Post by **otherside** » Mon May 29, 2006 2:21 pm

remix wrote:i still have the mouse bug (can't right click on anyone/thing).

I don't understand why people are still having issues with wine and WoW. There are lots of guides how to build wine for WoW, there is a sticky thread in this forum, the appdb entry on winehq.org, gentoo-wiki.org and much more I don't even know of.

the wine ebuild maintainer should consider adding a 'wow' use flag to the ebuild and apply the needed patch if the use flag is set.

Cristian75 · Post by **Cristian75** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:27 pm

Signed...

terrigan · Post by **terrigan** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:28 am

WoW works flawlessly under Cedega. No mouse problems, nothing. I do agree with the people saying that a Linux port of WoW is never going to exist. A good majority of their clientele are Windows users and they aren't going to bend over backwards to port the software to the Linux platform. Really if you want to play WoW under Gentoo, get Cedega. It takes all the guesswork and configuration (mostly) out of playing it under Wine.

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