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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 1:26 am    Post subject: Swedish forum Reply with quote

Hi

I'm writing this at 3 am so please excuse the bad english (and swedish :) )

If you look at this thread you'll see that there seems to be some interest in having a swedish forum. 14 diffrent people have posted and the thread has bee viewed about 150 times.

How would we go about setting upp a swedish forum?

Peptalk for the Swedes:
Om ni vill ha ett svenskt forum kanske ni kan saga natt har. (Nej jag har inte fatt svenska tecken att funka i Gnome annu :) )
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Swedish forum Reply with quote

henke wrote:
How would we go about setting upp a swedish forum?

There are two ways to get a swedish forum created:
  1. Have two blond swedish women show up at my doorstep to plead your case personally. This guarantees you a swedish forum and probably just about anything else you want, too. :)
  2. Or, for the boring, pedestrian approach, go rally your fellow swedish Gentoo users and have them post here about how a swedish forum is really super important.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Swedish forum Reply with quote

Hmm. Since I'm a computer geek option 1. is off. Sorry about that :wink:

I guess we will have to take approach number 2
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. Or, for the boring, pedestrian approach, go rally your fellow swedish Gentoo users and have them post here about how a swedish forum is really super important.


Our puny norwegian neighbours got one. That should be a sufficient reason ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 2:55 pm    Post subject: Swedish Reply with quote

Of course we need a Swedish forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swedish forum for the people!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? We have a pretty descent education here :)
There are many benefits of reading in english instead.
How about a #gentoo.se on some IRC network?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Swedish forum Reply with quote

henke wrote:
Hmm. Since I'm a computer geek option 1. is off. Sorry about that :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah! give us a forum! i could do some moderator tasks if needed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ravon wrote:
Why? We have a pretty descent education here :)
There are many benefits of reading in english instead.


I think you are right in saying that we don't need a Swedish forum because we can't speak Enlish.

It would however be nice to have a place where we could discuss issues specific to Sweden. Like how to get networking going if your ISP is Telia, Tele2 or Telenordia.
(For those of you who don't know I would say that these ISPs have about 75% of the market in Sweden.)

Tele2 and Telenordia use PPPoE and Telia use DHCP with a custom login page. Getting networking to work is kind of tough...

ravon wrote:
How about a #gentoo.se on some IRC network?


There is allready a IRC channel on OPN . ( Look in the bottom left corner of the gentoo main page. ) It seems to be kind of empty though.

I'd like to have a place where questions about gentoo that are specific to Sweden are answered.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really want a swedish forum were we can talk swedish or discuss swedish stuff in linux... like characters and so on...
i think ill go with option #2 too... still want to keep my 2 swedish blonds all to my self... ;=)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 5:51 pm    Post subject: Obviousness Reply with quote

Of course there needs to be a swedish forum. Just because you and me and all the other nerds happen to be rather young people with a decent grasp of english doesn't mean everyone is. Closing out everyone that doesn't use english regularly enough to feel comfortable in asking questions in an english forum from using linux would be a really bad idea.

See alot of people would rather use swedish programs. My mom, for instance, still uses Netscape Communicator 4.x instead of Mozilla, since the translation isn't done yet. And that's not because she wouldn't know english. I can tell you that it's a quite common reaction among "normal" computer users. That's also the very reason I got involved with l10n.

I'd rather see a full page of gentoo forums in all kinds of languages where only half of them were used, than to see a "local" forum be withheld because "not many enough want one" or "you're educated enough to speak english". Sooner or later, when linux starts creeping onto the desktop of Mr and Mrs Average User, the forums will fill up.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

muuuust haaaave aa sweeeedish foooruuum, muuuust haaaave!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question is why there should _not_ exist a swedish forum if anyone thinks that there should be one...

So please give us one!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ravon wrote:
Why? We have a pretty descent education here :)
There are many benefits of reading in english instead.
How about a #gentoo.se on some IRC network?


#gentoo-se @ irc.freenode.net
Sorry you already got an answer on that question 8O

I think a swedish forum would be great, the thing with english is that it's not always that easy to express yourself. Especially when you are talking about technical stuff
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:10 pm    Post subject: yeah... Reply with quote

hahaha...
hehe, well i'm posting, posting here. and i'm swedish...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Swedish forum Reply with quote

klieber wrote:

Or, for the boring, pedestrian approach, go rally your fellow swedish Gentoo users and have them post here about how a swedish forum is really super important.


Rallying: Yeah, it's really super important to have a Swedish forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm ... Im not a blond, and Im not a girl ...

But Im swedish and got big tits ... will this do? :D

It would be great with a swedish Gentoo forum ... hand it over please!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:20 pm    Post subject: Ja tack Reply with quote

Yes, I want a swedish forum too. If the *#¤$ norweigans can have one, we can have one too :)

As someone already said, there are things/problems local to swedes to discuss, like the ISP matter.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) If you go and take a look here you'll see that there are about 6400 registerd users of the Gentoo forums.

2) If you look at each page you'll see that the average is about one Swede per page. There are 128 pages.

1) & 2) => 2% of the registerd users of the forums are Swedish.

I don't know if all of these people wan't a Swedish forum though...

(Uber geek proving his point mathematically :oops: )
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:D for a swedish forum
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yea! it would be nice with a swedish forum for us, swedish gentooers.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 8:21 pm    Post subject: yeah having a forum in swedish... Reply with quote

may also draw in even more users so I'll opt in for a swedish forum also

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what....it's kind a must have.....swedish forum to the "swedish" people. My english is kind a bad so i would be very happy if we had one on swedish :)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any volunteers to translate the top part of our forums FAQ into Swedish? If so, please send a PM to klieber, to get a copy of the original PHP source.
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