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Guys please help me install Gentoo with binary packages

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Post by NeddySeagoon » Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:19 pm

justguy,

Every Gentoo install is different. Gentoo is the portage package manager and the ::gentoo ebuild repository. That's it.
You design your install then use the provided tools to make it happen.
That is what we all have in common here. We all use the portage package manager and the ::gentoo ebuild repository to achieve our different installs.

You don't actually install everything from source. The stage3 tarball is a set a binary packages that every normal Gentoo install must have.
Add to that the packages needed to boot, a kernel and a boot loader and you have a minimal Gentoo install.

How packages are built does not matter for later.You can use binaries at any time.
What matters is that existing packages are built in a way to support later packages.
If not, with a source install, portage will rebuild things. With a binary install, that's not allowed as it involves building.

Choose the correct profile for your intended install.
Do not set any USE flags and the Gentoo provided binhost should work.
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Post by yaslam » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:07 am

I have created a guide on how to quickly install Gentoo (note, some parts you still need to read the WIKI) but it is a very fast way to install Gentoo.
https://blog.yaslam.org/2024/09/25/gentoo-install.html
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Post by yaslam » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:10 am

NOTE: You don't actually need to compile @world while installing Gentoo, you can do that when the installation is done. Same for kernel compilation, the WIKI recommends using a dist-kernel (gentoo-kernel-bin) first and then basing your own kernel configuration off that (see: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:A ... figuration).
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Post by NeddySeagoon » Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:53 am

justguy,

Beware guides produced by individual users, be they videos, Wiki pages, blogs ... whatever.
They all lack peer review and improvement from use and reuse.
The handbook is peer reviewed by developers and used every day. There is no shortage of user feedback either. See the Discussion pages.

Help your helpers to help you by following a guide that is well understood.
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Post by justguy » Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:58 am

Idk for my easier to install from source and after this enable binary feature
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Post by NeddySeagoon » Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:20 am

justguy,

Do not confuse 'faster' and 'easier'.
An install using binaries will use less of your CPU cycles than an install using sources.

The difference is the emerge option

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       --getbinpkgonly [ y | n ], -G
              This  option  is  identical to -g, as above, except binaries from
              the remote server are preferred over local packages if  they  are
              not identical.
Both ways need the same amount of your time and attention.
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Post by justguy » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:14 am

And by the way -binpkg-respect-use in make.conf it is respect use flags and you can set USE flags then using binary packages
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Post by C5ace » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:24 pm

Just installed Gentoo based Xfce binary distribution from "Calculate Linux" on a new laptop. Took me about 20 minutes until logging into the new installation.

Go to https://wiki.calculate-linux.org/desktop
Download the appropriate version.
Burn the .iso file on USB stick.
Boot USB stick.
Open browser to check that internet works.
Click on Installer Icon and follow instructions.
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Post by Banana » Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:04 pm

C5ace wrote:Just installed Gentoo based Xfce binary distribution from "Calculate Linux" on a new laptop. Took me about 20 minutes until logging into the new installation.

Go to https://wiki.calculate-linux.org/desktop
Download the appropriate version.
Burn the .iso file on USB stick.
Boot USB stick.
Open browser to check that internet works.
Click on Installer Icon and follow instructions.
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Post by C5ace » Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:27 pm

I understand that from justguy's first post that he wants to install binary Gentoo. Calculate-Linux is the only distribution that after installation can be converted to a full source based Gentoo installation.
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Post by justguy » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:11 pm

Calculate linux not option because its have dont needed apps by default
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Post by pietinger » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:33 am

Moderator note:

This is the Gentoo Linux discussion and support forum. We are all aware that there are other Linux distributions. Therefore, references to them are not necessary. If someone wants to excessively and repeatedly promote another Linux, they should not do so here, as it is inappropriate and may confuse Gentoo newcomers. I looked at the following old posts:

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If I still have to read advertisements for Calculate Linux again, this will have consequences.
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