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Post by beowulf » Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:10 am

I would seriously like to see a solid graphical ftp client.... Igloo isn't solid... crashed three times on me when transfering a large ISO.... Must've been some kind of inconsistency with my system and the system it needed... *shrugs*

gFTP hasn't changed since it was first introduced from what I can telll. The gui is still counter-intuitive imho. and takes up more room showing less information then their window's counterparts. Transfering a large file on the LAN (100mbit) still maxes out my CPU usage (but doesn't on windows...)....The rest of them are no longer maintained from what I can tell....

I agree that there is no FTP client available that matches FlashFXP in ease of use, stability and feature set.... it's really in a class of it's own....

And then there's the apps from Adobe and Macromedia that are among the top in their respective fields.... linux has no (barely any) equivilents...

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Post by carpman » Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:22 am

beowulf wrote:I would seriously like to see a solid graphical ftp client.... Igloo isn't solid... crashed three times on me when transfering a large ISO.... Must've been some kind of inconsistency with my system and the system it needed... *shrugs*

gFTP hasn't changed since it was first introduced from what I can telll. The gui is still counter-intuitive imho. and takes up more room showing less information then their window's counterparts. Transfering a large file on the LAN (100mbit) still maxes out my CPU usage (but doesn't on windows...)....The rest of them are no longer maintained from what I can tell....


I too am looking for a good ftp client. going to try a few and see how it goes.

You say that many are not being maintained:

lftp
gftp

both have been updated recently, sure more have but have not checked them all.
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Post by supreme_geek_overlord » Sat Nov 15, 2003 2:38 pm

A free, super-fast, super-functional, and free version of VMWare and a windows-like WM so that my dad will use Linux and I won't have to reboot all the time.
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Post by Zeitgeist » Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:20 pm

A decent office package that can do page numbers on documents easy, rather then performing voodoo.

Recently used MS Word 2003 and I must say, it's great. Though, I don't have a Windows machine at home, I really wish we could get something for Linux.

It starts up litterly in under 1 second on a 2.8ghz machine. StarOffice/OpenOffice takes atleast 10 seconds and can't do page numbers easily. That's the biggest gripe I have with StarOffice, putting in pagenumbers. It's just a pain.
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Post by dr_strange » Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:47 pm

Moorhuhn for Linux...
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Post by fp2099 » Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:32 pm

Zeitgeist wrote:A decent office package that can do page numbers on documents easy, rather then performing voodoo.

Recently used MS Word 2003 and I must say, it's great. Though, I don't have a Windows machine at home, I really wish we could get something for Linux.

It starts up litterly in under 1 second on a 2.8ghz machine. StarOffice/OpenOffice takes atleast 10 seconds and can't do page numbers easily. That's the biggest gripe I have with StarOffice, putting in pagenumbers. It's just a pain.
Errr... what's wrong with openoffice's page numbers way?
Geeezzzz I can't work with office nowadays... I have to take out all that stupid hiding and bad layout. Office 2000 (and up) is more eye candy than productivity...
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Post by Achilles » Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:27 am

One thing that irks me with openoffice is that you can't put a different page number on the first page.. you can only change your layout so it has a different header and page number on every other page. Maybe I'm just missing the feature though...
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Post by Stoffer » Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:53 am

Not the most important application, but I think that cd-burning software that automatically converts mp3's to wavs and then burns in one step would be helpful, since it'll save some time and space. As far as I know there isn't anything like that out there, but I could be wrong, since i'm still quite new to linux and gentoo alike (6 months experience). I'd write one if I could, but I'm only 1 year into my computer science degree :wink:
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Post by Zeitgeist » Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:04 am

fp2099 wrote: Errr... what's wrong with openoffice's page numbers way?
Geeezzzz I can't work with office nowadays... I have to take out all that stupid hiding and bad layout. Office 2000 (and up) is more eye candy than productivity...
It's complicated for no reason. Microsoft Office's (a better office package, but it has more years under its belt) you just click on a menu > page numbers and you have them.

OpenOffice you need to perform voodoo and half the time it doesn't even work right if you don't want a number on the first page or you edit it afterwards.
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Post by thrasher6670 » Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:05 am

Stoffer wrote:Not the most important application, but I think that cd-burning software that automatically converts mp3's to wavs and then burns in one step would be helpful, since it'll save some time and space. As far as I know there isn't anything like that out there, but I could be wrong, since i'm still quite new to linux and gentoo alike (6 months experience). I'd write one if I could, but I'm only 1 year into my computer science degree :wink:
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Post by jo_vermeulen » Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:05 pm

Something I really missed up to now, was an easy-to-use CD burning program...

I currently use K3B, which is really easy to use and still has a lot of advanced options. I am also very pleased that the 0.10.1 ebuild configures k3b on the fly, without having to go through k3bsetup.
K3B just needs to get a little more polished and even my mother would be able to burn a cd on my Gentoo laptop :)

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Post by vbenares » Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:26 pm

Since August I have been trying to use only a linux on my desktop. I think my needs are those of a fairly typical office worker. These four things are what prevent me from ditching my windows box entirely:

A good, gui web composer suite - with a site manager included, i.e. like Dreamweaver & Fireworks. Screem is headed to solving the Dreamweaver part but - in my experience - still has a long way to go.

A Quicken-clone. Gnucash with an enhancement would work. Currently gnucash can't do what in Quicken are called "classes" and have been called "cash centers."

An Access clone.

A WordPerfect filter for openoffice.

These are probably out there, but after considerable struggle, remain beyond my reach:

A way to scan from a networked scanner. (I don't do this very often so firing up the windows box works.)

A way to fax from a networked fax machine. (This would be nice, but I can walk over to the fax machine.)

A simple way to browse (mount and unmount) networked windows shares. LinNeighborhood is a pain and doesn't automatically unmount. I have not been able to get autofs (?) working though every couple of weeks I pull out the relevant posts and try again. (This is just a constant nuisance that I cannot seem to overcome. It makes me long for MS Windows Explorer - yikes.)
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Post by semiSfear » Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:51 pm

I haven't red the whole thread since it's a bit long so my suggestion may have already been brought up.

I wan't a descent graphical FTP client. gFTP really sucks, I hate it! :evil: IglooFTP.... Errrr, it's not free and under the GPL :evil: I have tried 2 - 3 more graphical FTP clients and they all have some flaws. I would like to see a linux version or clone of FlashFXP which is the absolutely best FTP/FXP client out there, period. Those who don't agree on that statement, drop me a line and try to convince me the opposite.

I have tried a clone of FlashFXP called swiftFTP and it was really buggy, I mean really buggy.

So no. There still isn't any descent graphical FTP clients for linux. I am currently running FlashFXP with CodeWeavers CrossOver Office and it works a lot better than any other graphical FTP clients for linux. Something must be really wrong, no?
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Post by carpman » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:23 pm

A way to scan from a networked scanner. (I don't do this very often so firing up the windows box works.)

A way to fax from a networked fax machine. (This would be nice, but I can walk over to the fax machine.)


These two can be done easy, i had a scsi scanner on p166 running RH and could scan on it from windows, did not try linux yet but that should be no prob.
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Post by jo_vermeulen » Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:13 pm

semiSfear wrote: I wan't a descent graphical FTP client. gFTP really sucks, I hate it! :evil:
Then why don't you tell the gFTP developers about your wishes?

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Post by dgt84 » Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:50 pm

supreme_geek_overlord wrote:A free, super-fast, super-functional, and free version of VMWare and a windows-like WM so that my dad will use Linux and I won't have to reboot all the time.
Ever heard of xpde? [ http://www.xpde.com ]
As of yet it isn't all that much, but it is progressing, though I don't use it (but I have tried it just to test it out). Should make any windows user feel at home on linux though :)
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Post by carpman » Sun Nov 16, 2003 11:28 pm

rounin wrote:A good movie editor that has an ebuild, is based on timestamps and supports multiple framerates and codecs in one file, that supports a variety of codecs, and doesn't necessarily reencode everything upon output unless you cut between keyframes.

I've seen some Linux movie editors, but they can't even rival what the Windows fansubbers use, let alone professionals.

what about this beast :)

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Post by odegard » Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:01 am

Those looking for graphical FTP clients ala FlashFXP should check Kbear out. When I started using Linux a few months ago I also started using Kbear but I've actually turned to ncftp lately. But, try Kbear out, it's quite good, although a bit buggy (a few months ago, might be ironed out by now).

http://kbear.sourceforge.net/
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Post by semiSfear » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:12 am

jo_vermeulen wrote:
semiSfear wrote: I wan't a descent graphical FTP client. gFTP really sucks, I hate it! :evil:
Then why don't you tell the gFTP developers about your wishes?

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Yes. The thought has crossed my mind a couple of times. But it feels like if gFTP should be equivelant to FlashFXP or at least as good as FlashFXP a rewrite of gFTP is needed. And I dunno how/if the gFTP developers likes that.
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Post by zhenlin » Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:40 am

vbenares wrote:Since August I have been trying to use only a linux on my desktop. I think my needs are those of a fairly typical office worker. These four things are what prevent me from ditching my windows box entirely:

A good, gui web composer suite - with a site manager included, i.e. like Dreamweaver & Fireworks. Screem is headed to solving the Dreamweaver part but - in my experience - still has a long way to go.
Egads! Why don't you use handcoded HTML and manually checked links? For one thing - it is much more professional.
An Access clone.
Egads! Why do you need a clone of such a worthless sub-enterprise database program? Use semi-enterprise level ones like MySQL or PostgreSQL in combination with something like Webmin or phpMyAdmin...

Or you could do it the manual way with an SQL script.
A WordPerfect filter for openoffice.
Hmm, I thought everyone used Word? There's a Linux version of WordPerfect, if you're interested.
A way to fax from a networked fax machine. (This would be nice, but I can walk over to the fax machine.)
Erm, isn't this supposed to be done with modems and fax programs?
A simple way to browse (mount and unmount) networked windows shares. LinNeighborhood is a pain and doesn't automatically unmount. I have not been able to get autofs (?) working though every couple of weeks I pull out the relevant posts and try again. (This is just a constant nuisance that I cannot seem to overcome. It makes me long for MS Windows Explorer - yikes.)
Do it properly... Mount and unmount it from the (root) command prompt. Use LinNeighborhood for browsing for shares only.

Don't expect automatic things to work well. They can only make guesses at your intentions.
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Post by fp2099 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:31 am

Have you tried junkie?
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Post by jo_vermeulen » Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:39 am

semiSfear wrote:
jo_vermeulen wrote:
semiSfear wrote: I wan't a descent graphical FTP client. gFTP really sucks, I hate it! :evil:
Then why don't you tell the gFTP developers about your wishes?

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Yes. The thought has crossed my mind a couple of times. But it feels like if gFTP should be equivelant to FlashFXP or at least as good as FlashFXP a rewrite of gFTP is needed. And I dunno how/if the gFTP developers likes that.
There's no harm in trying. It's always easier to start from an existing application, than to start over again. If the gFTP developers don't share your ideas, you could ask another developer to fork the gFTP project, and create something like FlashFXP.

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Post by supreme_geek_overlord » Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:19 pm

dgt84 wrote:Ever heard of xpde? [ http://www.xpde.com ]
As of yet it isn't all that much, but it is progressing, though I don't use it (but I have tried it just to test it out). Should make any windows user feel at home on linux though :)
Looks kool 2 me, although the VMWare problem still isn't solved. I would pirate - er, share - it, but I've got a slow connection and my dad would kill me if he found out that it costs mula that I don't have.
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Post by adammorley » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:56 pm

[quote="erwan"]1) A groupware server

Something like MS Exchange, where you can share your planning, agenda, contacts, etc.

2) An incremental backup software

Where you can select directory to backup, and they'll be synchronised on the backup server every night by making diffs. If you have a disk crash, so you can just take the last version on server

And of course, drivers for all vendors who are not helpfull with linux community ![/quote]

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Post by dsd » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:40 pm

vbenares wrote:An Access clone.
here's some good news

http://www.rekallrevealed.org/
http://www.thekompany.com/products/rekall/

you need to run a seperate database server, but this appears to provide an access-style front end. nice to see companies GPL'ing software now and then :)
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