Xfce 4.4

[Sachankara]

Anyone have problems with Firefox (2.0) fonts regressing to ultra tiny size? The UI fonts are fine everywhere in XFCE except for the firefox rendered pages. And I've checked with the prefs and my min font size is 14pt or higher...Anyhow, other than that and lack of some of the plugins mentioned previously, everything seems nice so far.

Not ultra tiny, but clearly smaller than every other application. Last time I had that problem I had to activate Pango for Firefox. You could always try to change the font settings in Firefox manually.

(Or you could change to a native browser like Epiphany or Konqueror )

[ilm]

I've read (not Xfce related) that within about:config, you can change the dpi settings for the firefox fonts... tried that?

[geniux]

Anyone else but me that feels that the terminal is as good - speedy as before? Not a problem with it here, it's equal in speed with or without composite
Or are some of us using old graphics cards or little memory

[amar_]

OK, up and runin' .Tnx geniux for tip but last night I added each of that one by one

[b3cks]

Anyone else but me that feels that the terminal is as good - speedy as before? Not a problem with it here, it's equal in speed with or without composite
Or are some of us using old graphics cards or little memory

Terminal is running smoothly as normal here...

[onlinepancakes]

Anyone else but me that feels that the terminal is as good - speedy as before? Not a problem with it here, it's equal in speed with or without composite
Or are some of us using old graphics cards or little memory

Terminal working great for me.. With real transparency its the best terminal ever made..

[staffan]

So... I'm thinking... should I go ahead with trying 4.4. I'm fairly new to Xfce but I like it a lot.

I've also recently switched to Paludis (on the same day as Xfce, actually, but afterwards) and I wonder if anyone else has successfully used it for installing Xfce? I've had issues with a few ebuilds but nothing major.

I've unmasked 4.4 but after a dbus upgrade I need to rebuild some stuff and that'll take a while so I still have time to change my mind.

[dhave]

So... I'm thinking... should I go ahead with trying 4.4. I'm fairly new to Xfce but I like it a lot.

I've also recently switched to Paludis (on the same day as Xfce, actually, but afterwards) and I wonder if anyone else has successfully used it for installing Xfce? I've had issues with a few ebuilds but nothing major.

I've unmasked 4.4 but after a dbus upgrade I need to rebuild some stuff and that'll take a while so I still have time to change my mind.

I used Paludis to upgrade Xfce to 4.4. I also had to rebuild a few things because of a dbus upgrade. In the end, everything worked out, although the dbus update caused me to have to create a symlink (see http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-38 ... ml#3860097). As far as I know, that had nothing to do with Paludis, though.

[immudium]

Anyone else but me that feels that the terminal is as good - speedy as before? Not a problem with it here, it's equal in speed with or without composite
Or are some of us using old graphics cards or little memory

Rendering speed of xfce-extra/terminal-0.2.6 on a GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB video card

Display Compositing Disabled:

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$ time ls -la /usr/bin
real    0m4.170s
user    0m0.018s
sys     0m0.012s

$ time eix x
real    0m34.260s
user    0m0.252s
sys     0m0.062s

Display Compositing Enabled:

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$ time ls -la /usr/bin
real    0m0.186s
user    0m0.016s
sys     0m0.022s

$ time eix x
real    0m2.156s
user    0m0.313s
sys     0m0.109s

No wimpy video cards here and this has nothing to do at all with the speed of the ls command, of course, but rather with how fast the terminal window draws it contents. That's a pretty significant increase in time to render. This is on a dual screen setup with about 2960x1050 in total size and where the terminal window itself takes up about 1024x768 pixels or 1/3 of that space. If I didn't have decent compositing support from my video card, terminal would be pretty useless at this point. I could see where that will be a big problem for alot of users.

[baigsabeeh]

I'm movin' to XFCE 4.4. I just did a 64-Bit install last night, but before that, I tried it on my 32-Bit install and man-o-man was it good!

[Gergan Penkov]

Anyone else but me that feels that the terminal is as good - speedy as before? Not a problem with it here, it's equal in speed with or without composite
Or are some of us using old graphics cards or little memory

No wimpy video cards here and this has nothing to do at all with the speed of the ls command, of course, but rather with how fast the terminal window draws it contents. That's a pretty significant increase in time to render. This is on a dual screen setup with about 2960x1050 in total size and where the terminal window itself takes up about 1024x768 pixels or 1/3 of that space. If I didn't have decent compositing support from my video card, terminal would be pretty useless at this point. I could see where that will be a big problem for alot of users.

Although I use old card nvidia 440mx - this has absolutely nothing to do with it, it redraws mc as if I'm running some pre-pentium computer, I haven't tested composite as I have gnome-terminal, which works just as expected.
Someone said earlier that rc2 resolves this issue, probably a diff would be very interesting - I have seen a similar bug on xfce-bugzilla.

[geniux]

Terminal is running smoothly as normal here...

Terminal working great for me.. With real transparency its the best terminal ever made..

Glad I'm not alone, and yeah - with real transparency Terminal is the best ever

No wimpy video cards here and this has nothing to do at all with the speed of the ls command, of course, but rather with how fast the terminal window draws it contents. That's a pretty significant increase in time to render. This is on a dual screen setup with about 2960x1050 in total size and where the terminal window itself takes up about 1024x768 pixels or 1/3 of that space. If I didn't have decent compositing support from my video card, terminal would be pretty useless at this point. I could see where that will be a big problem for alot of users.

I was only ranting, since it seemed like some had the problem and others didn't. Sorry
I do agree though, that this could be a problem for many users without decent compositing support. But they can choose any of the other terminals out there, which probably will be working snappier on their systems

[immudium]

Terminal is running smoothly as normal here...

Terminal working great for me.. With real transparency its the best terminal ever made..

Glad I'm not alone, and yeah - with real transparency Terminal is the best ever

Agreed!

But they can choose any of the other terminals out there, which probably will be working snappier on their systems

Ooh, ouch. You're seriously suggesting that users expecting to find a good, lightweight DE such as what Xfce aims to be, ought to look elsewhere to fulfill their requirements? I'm not saying I don't like the feature. I'm just disappointed that something like this snuck in at the 11th hour and basically undermines one of the primary goals of the project. It should have been implemented as an optional build switch or have the ability to revert to sane rendering algorithms in the absence of composite support or the feature should have been delayed until such a time as proper non-composite support could be implemented as I think a good terminal emulation application is one of the most important pieces in a desktop environment. Hopefully a fix is speedily forthcoming.

[ilm]

Well, I've been having troubles with Terminal loading slowly since RC2, but now - even with composite enabled - it's completely unbearable (I'm got a Radeon 9000 mobility). Even when trying to move the window it's laggy and jerky, whilst other programs (e.g. emacs) move easily.

[geniux]

But they can choose any of the other terminals out there, which probably will be working snappier on their systems

Ooh, ouch. You're seriously suggesting that users expecting to find a good, lightweight DE such as what Xfce aims to be, ought to look elsewhere to fulfill their requirements?

For heavens sake no, not as a permanent solution but since it seems to be a bug it's a good temporary solution. Didn't clarified myself there, sorry

I'm not saying I don't like the feature. I'm just disappointed that something like this snuck in at the 11th hour and basically undermines one of the primary goals of the project. It should have been implemented as an optional build switch or have the ability to revert to sane rendering algorithms in the absence of composite support or the feature should have been delayed until such a time as proper non-composite support could be implemented as I think a good terminal emulation application is one of the most important pieces in a desktop environment.

And I agree with you

[grx]

I just upgraded all the components of xfce4 to 4.4, and I've lost the background of my desktop as well as several icons on my panel.

Other symptoms: Under Settings / Desktop Preferences, when I enable "Allow Xfce to manage the desktop", the checkmark won't stick. As soon as I close and reopen the Desktop Preferences dialog, the checkmark disappears. It also disappears when I log out of an X session or when I reboot.

Also: My "right-click-on-desktop" menu no longer activates with a right click. I can access the menu via the panel, though.

Thanks for any help.

BTW, Xfce3.9999x (the last RC) was working fine.

I just updated my xfce, and I'm having similar problems. My dbus links all appear to be present. As per dhave's later post, I realized I didn't have the svg use flag activated. I recompiled everything with the flag, and it actually got worse. =P

It turns out I had a problem with dbus, perhaps because I had also updated it today. I needed to create a symlink in /usr/lib for libdbus-1.so.2 (I linked it to /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so). Whether or not that was a clean fix or not, I don't know, but it worked.

My symptoms: No background or desktop icons, no right-click menu, and the battery monitor plugin icon has now disappeared. Anyone help?

[dhave]

I just updated my xfce, and I'm having similar problems. My dbus links all appear to be present. As per dhave's later post, I realized I didn't have the svg use flag activated. I recompiled everything with the flag, and it actually got worse. =P
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My symptoms: No background or desktop icons, no right-click menu, and the battery monitor plugin icon has now disappeared. Anyone help?

1) You do have libdbus-1.so.2 present or linked in /usr/lib? I know you mentioned that your dbus links look O.K., but I thought I'd verify. This is what made the difference for me.
2) Have you tried re-emerging librsvg? This got back my svg icons.

[Sachankara]

It turns out I had a problem with dbus, perhaps because I had also updated it today. I needed to create a symlink in /usr/lib for libdbus-1.so.2 (I linked it to /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so). Whether or not that was a clean fix or not, I don't know, but it worked.

My symptoms: No background or desktop icons, no right-click menu, and the battery monitor plugin icon has now disappeared. Anyone help?

The proper way to fix all issues after updating a major library is to run "revdep-rebuild -p" (part of gentoolkit) and follow the instructions.

[96140]

It turns out I had a problem with dbus, perhaps because I had also updated it today. I needed to create a symlink in /usr/lib for libdbus-1.so.2 (I linked it to /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so). Whether or not that was a clean fix or not, I don't know, but it worked.

My symptoms: No background or desktop icons, no right-click menu, and the battery monitor plugin icon has now disappeared. Anyone help?

The proper way to fix all issues after updating a major library is to run "revdep-rebuild -p" (part of gentoolkit) and follow the instructions.

Yup. I had to run revdep-rebuild twice, and then /etc/init.d/dbus restart before I finally got my system straightened out. Of course, I also hit some problems present in the ebuilds that I reported to the Xfce team, which caused even more revdep issues. Thankfully, those have since been fixed.

[sonofnet]

Guys, I need some help. Im new to gentoo, so I was wondering howto:
- unistall xfce4.4 completely? emerge -C xfce4 is that correct?
- what good xfce resources exist?
- I've istalled xfce4, when I start it as root, every thing is ok, but when I start it as user (I've delited all files from my home dir) I get this
timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.serverauth.8027
timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority

after that xfce starts extremly slowly with default settings...

Can someone help me out with this?

[ilm]

To uninstall xfce4, try the following:

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# emerge -C xfce4 xfce4-extras
# emerge --depclean world

Note: this will only work if you only emerged the two meta-packages listed above. To check all xfce packages are gone, you can then do:

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equery list | grep -i xfce

As for xfce resources, try the xfce website (xfce.org)!!!!!!!

And for your third question, does your home directory still exist? can any other window manager work (e.g. try twm)? The other thing to check is, who own's your user directory? As the user, can you create files in your own directery (e.g. 'echo "hi" > temp')? If not, as root, try doing:

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chown user /home/user

Hope this helps!

[Dieter@be]

Anyone have problems with Firefox (2.0) fonts regressing to ultra tiny size? The UI fonts are fine everywhere in XFCE except for the firefox rendered pages. And I've checked with the prefs and my min font size is 14pt or higher...Anyhow, other than that and lack of some of the plugins mentioned previously, everything seems nice so far.

Not ultra tiny, but clearly smaller than every other application. Last time I had that problem I had to activate Pango for Firefox. You could always try to change the font settings in Firefox manually.

I had this problem ever since 4.3.99.1
never felt like solving it though (thinking it would be fixed in later beta's or in 4.4)

[tsuru]

Anyone have problems with Firefox (2.0) fonts regressing to ultra tiny size? The UI fonts are fine everywhere in XFCE except for the firefox rendered pages. And I've checked with the prefs and my min font size is 14pt or higher...Anyhow, other than that and lack of some of the plugins mentioned previously, everything seems nice so far.

Not ultra tiny, but clearly smaller than every other application. Last time I had that problem I had to activate Pango for Firefox. You could always try to change the font settings in Firefox manually.

I had this problem ever since 4.3.99.1
never felt like solving it though (thinking it would be fixed in later beta's or in 4.4)

Well I never updated that I got it working thanks to Sachankara's hint to the pango cause... A quick test at the command line with :

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> MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=0 firefox&

Everything seemed to be semi-normal in firefox again...

[ilm]

Well I never updated that I got it working thanks to Sachankara's hint to the pango cause... A quick test at the command line with :

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> MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=0 firefox&

Everything seemed to be semi-normal in firefox again...

Doesn't firefox have a USE flag that does that?

[Sachankara]

Anyone else but me that feels that the terminal is as good - speedy as before? Not a problem with it here, it's equal in speed with or without composite
Or are some of us using old graphics cards or little memory

Try to be funny or something? I'm using a 1.5 GHz laptop with 768 MiB memory and a fully composite capable Intel i915 graphics accelerator, and yet the latest Terminal crawls like f***ing snail compared to any of the previous versions. It doesn't matter if you enable or disable composite, it's still way too slow. It's very much a bug or really poor coding.

At first I reverted to the previous RC2 version, but then I thought "what the hell, why even bother?". So I went back to gnome-terminal. Perhaps I'll try out Terminal again by the time Xfce 4.6.0 has been released.