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niskel · Post by **niskel** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:58 pm

pgolik wrote:I upgraded from 3.5.1 to 3.5.2 just fine, I'm on amd64, I use ~amd64 only for selected things (like kde). Split ebuilds. Everything seems to work fine, but now when I try "emerge -Dup world" it tries to install a slotted kde 3.4.3 (with some 3.4.1 packages even!). I didn't have slotted kde previously, just 3.5.1. How do I get rid of this annoyance? Tried re-sync'ing, but it didn't help, it still wants to slot 3.4.3.
Pawel

Did you simply emerge using a command similar to:

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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge kde-meta

If so, this is the completely wrong way to do it

What you have to do, unless you want to migrate the entire system to ~amd64, is add all the ~amd64 KDE packages to /etc/portage/packages.keywords. An example of a few of the packages so you can get a feel for the structure of this file is:

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~kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.2 ~amd64
~kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2 ~amd64
~kde-base/kopete-3.5.2 ~amd64

Just follow this structure for all the ~amd64 KDE packages you would like to keep.

no4b · Post by **no4b** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:50 pm

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[ebuild  N    ] app-text/psutils-1.17  60 kB
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kghostview-3.5.2  USE="-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama" 7,117 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/enscript-1.6.4-r1  USE="nls" 1,012 kB
[ebuild  N    ] kde-base/kdeprint-3.5.2  USE="-arts -cups -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama" 23,037 kB

I wonder how to get rid of that dependecies that have appeared a few minutes (hours?) ago. Maybe there is some new USE flag?

kmare · Post by **kmare** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:40 pm

just use the "-t" flag to see which package requires them, and then check the USE flags of that package...

no4b · Post by **no4b** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:49 pm

Umh, kpdf, and there's no new use USE flag ;/

Changelog says "add kdeprint as runtime dependency", bleee.

pgolik · Post by **pgolik** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:51 pm

niskel wrote: What you have to do, unless you want to migrate the entire system to ~amd64, is add all the ~amd64 KDE packages to /etc/portage/packages.keywords.

Which is exactly how I do it. Anyway - the problem is solved, and the solution was embarassingly simple: something during a sync nuked my package.keywords (!) but was kind enough to leave a package.keywords~ backup. Have restored that and now everything is in order. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is evil and I never use it at all.

niskel · Post by **niskel** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:56 pm

pgolik wrote:ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is evil and I never use it at all.

Just making sure

, you wouldn't believe how many people still use USE= and ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= and the like and think it is perfectly safe and okay.

yardbird · Post by **yardbird** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:03 pm

I have a problem with paths since I've re-enabled the arts use flag. What's bothering me is this (taken from the kdelibs ebuild):

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           if ! use arts ; then
                dodir /etc/env.d

                # List all the multilib libdirs
                local libdirs
                for libdir in $(get_all_libdirs); do
                        libdirs="${libdirs}:${PREFIX}/${libdir}"
                done

                cat <<EOF > ${D}/etc/env.d/45kdepaths-${SLOT} # number goes down with version upgrade
PATH=${PREFIX}/bin
ROOTPATH=${PREFIX}/sbin:${PREFIX}/bin
LDPATH=${libdirs:1}
CONFIG_PROTECT="${PREFIX}/share/config ${PREFIX}/env ${PREFIX}/shutdown"
EOF
        fi

}

WTF? It won't install the 45kdepaths file in env.d if I have arts enabled, but this way it'll break a lot of things. For example kdm won't start anymore, since the path /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kdm is no more. Or, when you 'su' under X, you won't be able to execute kde apps without calling them with their full path. Has anyone else noticed this?

niskel · Post by **niskel** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:50 pm

I did a revdep-rebuild to try and fix my libexpat problem (like the einfo from expat said) but it made absolutely no difference. Nothing is working now.

NorthGoingZax · Post by **NorthGoingZax** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:15 am

I want to upgrade to 3.5.2 from a 3.4.something, but I don't want 2 versions; I want emerge to replace 3.4 with 3.5.

How can I most easily do this, since portage wants to slot 3.5.2 ? Is there a way to override the slot ?

firephoto · Post by **firephoto** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:25 am

NorthGoingZax wrote:I want to upgrade to 3.5.2 from a 3.4.something, but I don't want 2 versions; I want emerge to replace 3.4 with 3.5.

How can I most easily do this, since portage wants to slot 3.5.2 ? Is there a way to override the slot ?

Just update to 3.5 and then remove all of 3.4, if you're low on diskspace remove 3.4 first and try to leave enough of kde open so you can keep using it until the install gets past kdebase which would be the minimum to load kde and you can restart kde at that point.

KDE version changes don't mix well so that's why they are slotted otherwise your kde session would start failing at some point during the upgrade.

jstuart · Post by **jstuart** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:27 am

niskel wrote:
pgolik wrote:ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is evil and I never use it at all.
Just making sure , you wouldn't believe how many people still use USE= and ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= and the like and think it is perfectly safe and okay.

Could you be a bit more specific as to why this is bad?

IE have my global default USE flag in /etc/make.conf and I have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS set to ~x86 as I don't mind being on the bleeding edge as this is a devel box. When did it change that this was a BAD thing to do?

*Edit* Or wait are you referring to using those in an emerge command?

*Edit* sorry for the off topic bump here.

niskel · Post by **niskel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:10 am

jstuart wrote:Or wait are you referring to using those in an emerge command?

Yes

saturas · Post by **saturas** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:01 am

O.K so what about expat? my apps got broken too. have you tried downgrade expat ? did this solved your problem?

Desintegr · Post by **Desintegr** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:35 am

How to get rid of arts ? (and keep KDE notification system)

1) in /etc/make.conf file : add -arts to USE
2) in /etc/portage/package.use file : add kde-base/kdelibs arts (and kde-base/arts arts (maybe no needed))
3) emerge sox with alsa, mad, ogg flags
3) emerge all your KDE stuff
4) kcmshell arts : desactivate the sound daemon
5) kcmshell kcmnotify : use play command as external player

This works for me, this should work for you

jstuart · Post by **jstuart** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:55 am

niskel wrote:
jstuart wrote:Or wait are you referring to using those in an emerge command?
Yes

AHHH thank you.. for a sec there I thought I was doing something horribly wrong that I had missed.

I've been away from the gentoo world for almost a year... I'm HAPPY to be back.. FINALLY have my desktop computer back on gentoo... yaah...

thomasvk · Post by **thomasvk** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:00 am

Desintegr wrote:How to get rid of arts ?
Steps 1-9...

Well, that is only if you want those annoyings sounds.

If you don't want arts and don't bother about those annoying event sounds, you can just do -arts in USE in your make.conf. I have a global -arts, but I actually do have the event sounds kontrol panel page, so I don't know why the arts flag would be needed for kdelibs.

Desintegr · Post by **Desintegr** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:27 am

t0maz wrote:so I don't know why the arts flag would be needed for kdelibs.

I already tested to desactivated « arts » flag for kdelibs, but I was missing this file after emerge : knotify.so
Then, the KDE notification was broken for me.

Can you verify if « /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/knotify.so » is present on your system ?

thomasvk · Post by **thomasvk** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:04 pm

Desintegr wrote:
t0maz wrote:so I don't know why the arts flag would be needed for kdelibs.
I already tested to desactivated « arts » flag for kdelibs, but I was missing this file after emerge : knotify.so
Then, the KDE notification was broken for me.

Can you verify if « /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/knotify.so » is present on your system ?

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$ ls -lh /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/knotify.so
ls: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/knotify.so: No such file or directory

So you're probably right. Perhaps this changed between 3.4 and 3.5, because my brother (running 3.4 still) has the events page. I do not know if I have it.

radfoj · Post by **radfoj** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:10 pm

Hi,

1) anybody here know how to disable CTRL shortcut in 3.5.2 (if you dont know what I mean, just press CTRL while browsing net with Konqueror)? I was searching how to disable it in previous versions, but without luck.

2) Konqueror freezes for a moment (3-10 sec) while I am writing here after CTRL+X of some text I wrote (or select some word/sentence and press DEL button). This behaviour started few days ago after I upgraded to qt-3.3.6 ... so it seems its not KDE-3.5.2 related, becouse after qt upgrade I was still running 3.5.1 and waiting for 3.5.2 tarballs. I hoped that recompile of kdelibs/kdebase will resolve this problem. But it didnt.

Any hint? Thanks

BTW: I have set for a long time -arts in make.conf and +arts only for kdelibs (so kde-base/arts has -arts too) and notifications with external player "aplay" is working.

NorthGoingZax · Post by **NorthGoingZax** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:52 pm

[quote="firephoto"]

Just update to 3.5 and then remove all of 3.4, if you're low on diskspace remove 3.4 first and try to leave enough of kde open so you can keep using it until the install gets past kdebase which would be the minimum to load kde and you can restart kde at that point.[/quote]

It's not diskspace that's an issue (yet) but that I want to not have two kde versions on my system. Which one would start from kdm ? If I start konqueror when in another window manager, which konqueror would start ?

[quote]
KDE version changes don't mix well so that's why they are slotted otherwise your kde session would start failing at some point during the upgrade.[/quote]

Id reckon I'd just end X, go to a console, and start the upgrade, go to bed. Wake up. kde3.5.2. No big deal.

radfoj · Post by **radfoj** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:06 pm

radfoj wrote:2) Konqueror freezes for a moment (3-10 sec) while I am writing here after CTRL+X of some text I wrote (or select some word/sentence and press DEL button). This behaviour started few days ago after I upgraded to qt-3.3.6 ... so it seems its not KDE-3.5.2 related, becouse after qt upgrade I was still running 3.5.1 and waiting for 3.5.2 tarballs. I hoped that recompile of kdelibs/kdebase will resolve this problem. But it didnt.

Hmm, I found a record about it in #127892 ... quiting Klipper fix it, but I cant imagine to live without it.

niskel · Post by **niskel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:18 pm

saturas wrote:O.K so what about expat? my apps got broken too. have you tried downgrade expat ? did this solved your problem?

A complete and total hack that probably shouldn't work but does workaround is to make a symlink called "/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0" to "/usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.0". This seems to work but I don't really think it is supposed to.

RaZoR1394 · Post by **RaZoR1394** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:17 pm

niskel wrote:
saturas wrote:O.K so what about expat? my apps got broken too. have you tried downgrade expat ? did this solved your problem?
A complete and total hack that probably shouldn't work but does workaround is to make a symlink called "/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0" to "/usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.0". This seems to work but I don't really think it is supposed to.

Thanks. I had the same problem. I thought that emerge --depclean had hoosed the system and revdep-rebuild wouldn't fix it even when it reported that the library was missing.

saturas · Post by **saturas** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:11 pm

i have downgaded to previous version of expat and everything is back to normal.

Ateo · Post by **Ateo** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:39 pm

javock wrote:
niskel wrote:I don't even bother with arts, it is a piece of junk. I am surprised it took them until 4.0 to decide to get rid of it. I just use KDE without it and tell it to play notifications through an external player.
but what about the notification system? if you do not compile with arts you don't get all that stuff...

Sure you can. Disable arts completely then install alsaplayer then configure your system sounds to use alsaplayer instead of arts.