Jackass! 2005.2 Support Group

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-valheru- · Post by **-valheru-** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:12 pm

Thank you very much. Guess I had a mind-freeze.

sundialsvc4 · Post by **sundialsvc4** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:47 pm

Bob P wrote:nightmorph, you may not be aware that the on-line documentation for Jackass! has been revised. The Jackass! documentation on the website has been abbreviated so that it only includes the Introduction (history of Jackass!) and the Appendices (acknowledgement of contributors). The "meat" of the old Jackass! Installation Handbook is no longer availabe for download on the website [...] The preliminary Jackass! 2005.1 manual that was provided to the test group has never been released to the public, though it is available on the Jackass! CDs.

So, the documentation that is supposed to be on the web-site ... isn't on the web-site at all ... is only available for purchase? Frankly I assumed at first that there was some innocent mistake. Now I smudge around a little bit and find that the action is intentional.

Uh huh... and, let me tell you fairly bluntly what this prospective new customer thinks about that...

You aren't dealing honorably with me. In fact, you're rather clumsily trying to trick me. And when that happens, I keeps my moneys in my pocketses and just walks out of the store. The decision to purchase anything at all from anyone at all must be preceded by a sense of confidence and trust, both in the product and in the seller. Even the merest glint of anything less than that .. and you never even know just how many sales did not happen.

Money is not the issue! I've got some, and I had thought about giving you some. Until now. But now I see that I am not dealing with a real businessman at all! I am dealing with a clumsy neophyte; a rank beginner at commerce. Whew! Glad I found that out in time. My moneys stays in my pocketses and ... <<play shania_twain_im_outa_here.wav>> <<play slamming_door.wav>> <<play crickets.wav>>

Only difference is... in ordinary commerce you never actually hear that. You don't get the opportunity. Your store just stays empty and it eventually closes. Mind you, I am not "flaming" you. I am telling you the truth, as I, the consumer that you wanted (and failed) to get money from, see it. (This, therefore, being the only perception that counts.) And I wonder if there's a show-of-hands as to how many people feel the same way I do.

Your operating-system version may be the greatest improvement since sliced-bread, but please don't try to sell it if you don't know "Selling 101!" Just give it away and keep begging for sever-space. And if these words sound like harsh flames ... get over it. I mean actually nothing personal. Business is a harsh place. Buyer's expectations are justifiably very high and if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. The moment you ask for and accept money, the game has changed! Even if you give-away every dollar you earn to The Society To Pet The World's Lost Puppies, you accepted dollars. Furthermore, you created a situation in which the only way to obtain your product is through money. In the eyes of the law, that is a sale with everything that goes with it. A binding legal contract has been formed.

(P.S. For gawd's sake, if you're in business it's extremely bad-form to tell those customers who have older equipment to eff-off because you don't have the time. Honey catches more insects than vinegar. Isn't it painfully obvious that they need you the most?! Think first... If you offered them a kind ear, they could probably help you widen your product's acceptability and volunteer the time-and-effort to do it. If you absolutely don't intend to help them, then that's what Private Messages are for. Grow your business well and soon enough you might have the money to hire people, buy computers, and so on. After "Selling 101" take "Public Relations for Business 101.")

Sheesh....

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:07 pm

Thanks for all of the helpful advice, but I don't really care about your opinion, I don't have to follow your business model, and I dont OWE you anything.

If you like Jackass! you are welcome to use it. If it fits your nature, you can even be a freeloader and have a free lunch with my compliments. On the other hand, if you want to support the project, you can do that too. Its all up to you.

But just so you don't misunderstand the situation -- I don't have to answer to anyone, and I can do things however I want to. Jackass! is a HOBBY -- a non-profitmaking endeavor -- because I want it to be a hobby. To date I've spent more on ELECTRICITY to keep the 10 Jackass! PCs running than I've taken in in donations for the entire life of the project. That doesn't really bother me much. After all, this is a hobby.

On the subject of development time, I have the absolute right to allocate my time as I see fit. If I don't want to spend the time to build and test tarballs for architectures that I don't want to support, then I am free to tell people that those arches won't be part of the project. I'm not trying to "catpure market share." One would have to be an absolte DOLT to try to capture market share for obsolete hardware. THAT is something that you should have learned in Business 101.

If you like Jackass! for what it is, you are welcome to use it with my blessings. If you don't like it, then you are free NOT to use it if that suits you better. But don't think that you can come in here and give me a rash of shit because you don't like what I'm giving away or because you don't think that I'm giving away enough. I give away what I'm willing to give away and nothing more. I don't owe you anything and I don't have any responsibilities to you other than to tell you to fuck off.

codergeek42 · Post by **codergeek42** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:12 pm

Hi all. Let's all just take a breather and calm down, okay?

Gentoo's driven by choice. You as a user have the choice to use it or not, as you see fit. Let's not let our arguments become to agressive or personally (such as insulting). Thanks...

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:17 pm

fwiw, I feel much better now.

Visceral · Post by **Visceral** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:26 pm

Bob,

Your attitude sucks and frankly doesnt do much for Gentoo or the community. Many people in the community are sick of you and your horrible attitude and especially that you use several threads in the forums to push your crappy "hobby" and spend more time insulting people who ask questions, offer suggestions or criticisms than you do helping. May I suggest the Debian forums? It's full of elitist people like yourself, you'll get along fine. And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Gentoo will be better off without people like yourself.

codergeek42 · Post by **codergeek42** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:33 pm

Okay all. Calm down. This is supposed to be a friendly and supportive community. You're not being very friendly or supportive with such remarks.

96140 · Post by **96140** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:36 am

Oy. And now, back to your regularly scheduled Jackass! programming.

Any real support issues, anyone?

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:23 pm

Visceral wrote:Bob,

Your attitude sucks and frankly doesnt do much for Gentoo or the community. Many people in the community are sick of you and your horrible attitude and especially that you use several threads in the forums to push your crappy "hobby" and spend more time insulting people who ask questions, offer suggestions or criticisms than you do helping. May I suggest the Debian forums? It's full of elitist people like yourself, you'll get along fine. And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Gentoo will be better off without people like yourself.

okay, let's see -- this is the second time in three days that you've flamed me within this thread:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-28 ... ml#2865109
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-28 ... ml#2870735

Gentoo is about choice, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion. if you think that my work is "crappy", then why do you spend so much time obsessing over its threads? if you think that Jackass! or the Stage 1/3 Guides are "crappy", then it just doesn't make sense that you would be continually focusing your attention on reading and responding in the threads.

if these projects are so bad, then why can't you just pass over the threads, and let the people who are trying to contribute here get on with their mission without being interrupted by trolling and flames?

I know that this will disappoint you, but I won't be leaving. Maybe you would be happier if you could just pretend that I'm gone by not reading these threads.

curtis119 · Post by **curtis119** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:09 am

Oi people! Let's all settle down here. If BobP wants to solicit donations to help pay the electric bill then more power to him. You have a choice to click the donate button. You have a choice to use Jackass! or not. If you don't want to use it then leave this thread and don't come back. This is an official warning to tone it down or bans will be liberally given out.

Anim0sity · Post by **Anim0sity** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:40 pm

Ok so for the life of me I can't find out whether I need to use a special jackass livecd for or not.

Do I just need the jackass tarball for my architecture and install it using the gentoo guide, or do i need special guide on it. Do i need a special livecd for it as well?

if i can just use the gentoo livecd which version should i use? the 2005.0 or 2005.1? i plan on using jackass tarball for 2005.1

it looks as though on the jackass website i can buy a 2005.1 cd but is that a livecd or just all the tarballs on one cd.

also looked like there was a pdf on the site but the section with the install instructions was gone it seems.

If i need to buy the cd to get the guide and whatever else thats fine, im just wanting a quick easy answer as to what i need to do.

I've done the Stage 1/3 install many a time and it takes for ever, seems as though jackass is the same thing just precompiled for you.

thanks for the help/redirection

curtis119 · Post by **curtis119** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:35 am

Anim0sity wrote:Ok so for the life of me I can't find out whether I need to use a special jackass livecd for or not.

Do I just need the jackass tarball for my architecture and install it using the gentoo guide, or do i need special guide on it. Do i need a special livecd for it as well?

if i can just use the gentoo livecd which version should i use? the 2005.0 or 2005.1? i plan on using jackass tarball for 2005.1

it looks as though on the jackass website i can buy a 2005.1 cd but is that a livecd or just all the tarballs on one cd.

also looked like there was a pdf on the site but the section with the install instructions was gone it seems.

If i need to buy the cd to get the guide and whatever else thats fine, im just wanting a quick easy answer as to what i need to do.

I've done the Stage 1/3 install many a time and it takes for ever, seems as though jackass is the same thing just precompiled for you.

thanks for the help/redirection

I merged this post from a duplicate thread. I left a shadow topic of the original so that Anim0sity can find it. Anim0sity, the search function isn't perfect but it works pretty good.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:40 am

@curtis, thanks for your help.

@anim0sity, now that you've found the Support Thread, please take a little time to skim through it. all of your questions have already been answered in this thread. if you just read through it, you'll find all of the answers to your questions and it will save me the trouble of retyping everything. if you get through the thread and something still isn't clear, just ask for more help.

hth.

Anim0sity · Post by **Anim0sity** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:20 pm

ok got most of my questions answered.

i have one question still, which version of the gentoo livecd should i use? 2005.0 or 2005.1?

ive read that the 2005.1 jackass tarballs are not based of the gentoo 2005.1 tarballs instead based off the jackass 2005.0 tarballs, so would that mean i need a gentoo 2005.0 cd?

maybe i just missed this in the previous posts in this thread.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:48 pm

because this question keeps cropping up, i'm going to make an announcement that reiterates what's been said previously. hopefully this will clear things up:

Jackass! tarballs are 100%-interchangeable and 100%-compatible with Gentoo tarballs. You can use whatever installation media and/or procedures to perform a Jackass! install that you would use to perform a Gentoo install and your results will be THE SAME.

Because Jackass! tarballs behave EXACTLY like Gentoo tarballs:

1. No Jackass!-specific installation manual is needed or provided.
2. No issues have yet been identified that are unique to the Jackass! Toolkit or media.
3. Installation problems that are related to lack of knowledge of Gentoo-Fundamentals are not related to Jackass! and are not supported.

As i had mentioned in the first post of this thread, i am only one person and the amount of support that i can offer to noviciates is very limited. i have to draw the line somewhere, so i designed Jackass! so that it would be 100% Gentoo compatible and it wouldn't be necessary for me to provide any unique installation support.

To perform an install, just pretend that your Jackass! tarball is a Gentoo tarball, and do everyting else as you would normally, and you'll be fine. If you encounter a problem that seems like its unique to Jackass!, please report it here. This support thread exists to address problems that you may encounter that are unique to the Jackass! toolkit. But so far, nobody's ever reported ANY.

Have Fun!

carpman · Post by **carpman** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:02 pm

Hello, just did an emerge sync and got this when trying a pretend update:

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These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-admin/eselect-compiler" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-admin/eselect-compiler-2.0.0_beta5 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
# Jeremy Huddleston <eradicator@gentoo.org> (24 Sep 2005)
# Still in development

- app-admin/eselect-compiler-2.0.0_rc1-r1 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!    (dependency required by "sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1" [ebuild])


!!! Problem with ebuild sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.

Anyone tried unmasking it and if so any issues?

cheers

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:05 pm

am i missing something, or is that problem totally unrelated to Jackass!?

carpman · Post by **carpman** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:56 pm

Bob P wrote:am i missing something, or is that problem totally unrelated to Jackass!?

That is all i need, if is is not Jackass i will look elsewhere.

I asked as it refered to gcc and jackass does not use portage stable gcc

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:00 am

carpman wrote:
Bob P wrote:am i missing something, or is that problem totally unrelated to Jackass!?
That is all i need, if is is not Jackass i will look elsewhere.

I asked as it refered to gcc and jackass does not use portage stable gcc

you won't ever see a reference to a hard masked package if you're using a Jackass! toolkit. you won't ever see that package as part of a standard testing-branch GCC 3.4.4 toolkit either:

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gentoo ~ # emerge -ep gcc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/binutils-config-1.8-r6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20050602
[ebuild  N    ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/timezone-data-2005n-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gettext-0.14.4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-r10
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1-r4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/bison-1.875d
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/sed-4.1.4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6

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gentoo ~ # emerge util-linux -ep

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] app-crypt/hashalot-0.3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1-r4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20050602
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.3-r2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/binutils-config-1.8-r6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-r10
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/m4-1.4.3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/bison-1.875d
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/sed-4.1.4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/timezone-data-2005n-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/gettext-0.14.4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/groff-1.19.1-r2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/libperl-5.8.6-r1
[ebuild  N    ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-process/cronbase-0.3.2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/man-1.6-r1
[ebuild  N    ] app-shells/bash-3.0-r12
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.01
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-3-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/cracklib-2.8.3-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a-r6
[ebuild  N    ] dev-util/pkgconfig-0.17.2-r1
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.03
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/help2man-1.33.1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/automake-1.5
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/automake-1.6.3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/automake-1.7.9-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/automake-1.4_p6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-1-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/automake-1.9.6-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/pam-0.78-r3
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/readline-5.0-r2
[ebuild  N    ] sys-devel/bc-1.06-r6
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/diffutils-2.8.7-r1
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e-r2
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/expat-1.95.8
[ebuild  N    ] dev-lang/python-2.4.2
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.12
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/debianutils-2.14.1-r1
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22-r3
*** Please update portage to the above version before proceeding.
    Failure to do so may result in failed or improper merges.
    A simple 'emerge -u portage' is sufficient.

[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/pam-login-3.17
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/com_err-1.38
[ebuild  N    ] sys-libs/ss-1.38
[ebuild  N    ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.38
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r

as you can see, that hard masked package that you referenced is not anything that exists on the Jackass! systems. you had to get that dependency somewhere else...

i would diagree with the comment that Jackass! doesn't use a GCC stable toolkit. sure, Jackass! uses GCC 3.4.4 which is in the ~x86 testing branch, but it doesn't use ANY hard-masked packages. there is a HUGE difference between unstable hard-masked packages and testing branch packages.

i can tell you for a fact that you didn't get a dependency for a hard-masked package from anything that you've done with a conventional GCC 3.4.4 and/or Jackass! toolkit. Jackass! doesn't compel you to roll the reliability dice by installing hard masked packages like some less spongeworthy build methods, so this toolkit aberration is not my support issue.

fwiw, its not a portage issue. i've just resync'd and i don't have the problem. could you have gotten this strange, aberrant toolkit problem from one of the other installation methods you've been trying?

Suicidal · Post by **Suicidal** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:20 am

Just wondering why the Jackass P4 stage3 is 30 MB larger than the official one.
Are there any additional packages on the Jackass tarball?

carpman · Post by **carpman** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:20 pm

Bob P wrote:
carpman wrote:
Bob P wrote:am i missing something, or is that problem totally unrelated to Jackass!?
That is all i need, if is is not Jackass i will look elsewhere.

I asked as it refered to gcc and jackass does not use portage stable gcc

you won't ever see a reference to a hard masked package if you're using a Jackass! toolkit. you won't ever see that package as part of a standard testing-branch GCC 3.4.4 toolkit either:

SNIP

as you can see, that hard masked package that you referenced is not anything that exists on the Jackass! systems. you had to get that dependency somewhere else...

i would diagree with the comment that Jackass! doesn't use a GCC stable toolkit. sure, Jackass! uses GCC 3.4.4 which is in the ~x86 testing branch, but it doesn't use ANY hard-masked packages. there is a HUGE difference between unstable hard-masked packages and testing branch packages.

i can tell you for a fact that you didn't get a dependency for a hard-masked package from anything that you've done with a conventional GCC 3.4.4 and/or Jackass! toolkit. Jackass! doesn't compel you to roll the reliability dice by installing hard masked packages like some less spongeworthy build methods, so this toolkit aberration is not my support issue.

fwiw, its not a portage issue. i've just resync'd and i don't have the problem. could you have gotten this strange, aberrant toolkit problem from one of the other installation methods you've been trying?

Hello, ok this not related to any "other" install method, yes i have tried another install method as wanted to try reiser4 and latest gcc but this is kept to on machine and is only for testing, i would no way post an issue from another install here.

About jackass GCC being stable, yes it is i use on other systems with out problems which is why i said Gentoo GCC as jackass version is not yet marked stable.

Back to problem, this problem is on a server i am building, it used jackass 2005.1 P3 tarball. This server has very little installed at the moment, see end of post.

Using your commands i get:

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# emerge -ep gcc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies \
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.9" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- sys-devel/gcc-config-2.0.0_beta2 (masked by: package.mask, package.mask)# Jeremy Huddleston <eradicator@gentoo.org> (24 Sep 2005)
# Still in development

- sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r4 (masked by: package.mask)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!    (dependency required by "sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r3" [ebuild])

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emerge util-linux -ep

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies /
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-admin/eselect-compiler" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-admin/eselect-compiler-2.0.0_beta5 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
# Jeremy Huddleston <eradicator@gentoo.org> (24 Sep 2005)
# Still in development

- app-admin/eselect-compiler-2.0.0_rc1-r1 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!    (dependency required by "sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1" [ebuild])

This seems to indicate problem with eselect-compiler, now as i am using php5 i have following in package.keywords

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dev-lang/php ~x86
app-admin/eselect
app-admin/eselect-php

dev-php5/pecl-apc
www-apps/phpsysinfo
dev-php/smarty
dev-php5/pecl-pdo

Now i tried adding ~x86 to the eselect entries and even commenting them out but get:

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merge -uDp world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-admin/eselect-compiler" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-admin/eselect-compiler-2.0.0_beta5 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
# Jeremy Huddleston <eradicator@gentoo.org> (24 Sep 2005)
# Still in development

- app-admin/eselect-compiler-2.0.0_rc1-r1 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!    (dependency required by "sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1" [ebuild])


!!! Problem with ebuild app-forensics/chkrootkit-0.45
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.

Question is if i was using the Gentoo stable GCC version would i get these errors, if yes i will post in another forum but f no then it is Jackass related simply by fact that Jackass uses GCC 3.4.4

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tron ~ # equery depends eselect-compiler
[ Searching for packages depending on eselect-compiler... ]
tron ~ # equery depends gcc
[ Searching for packages depending on gcc... ]
sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1
sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r2
sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6

I have searched for below but no entries in any form for this?

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All ebuilds that could satisfy "eselect-compiler" have been masked.

List of installed apps.

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equery list
[ Searching for all packages in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] app-admin/syslog-ng-1.6.8-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-admin/eselect-1.0_rc2 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-admin/logsentry-1.1.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-admin/webmin-1.230 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-admin/logrotate-3.7.1-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.01 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-admin/eselect-php-0.96 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-arch/tar-1.15.1 (0)
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Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:42 pm

Suicidal wrote:Just wondering why the Jackass P4 stage3 is 30 MB larger than the official one.
Are there any additional packages on the Jackass tarball?

yes. nptl support is enabled, two versions of glibc are present, and you're using a different version of GCC. i thought that everyone knew that.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:48 pm

@carpman:

i showed in my earlier post that that package is not a dependency of GCC 3.4.4. it may be something that has come about as a result of your implementation of testing branch php or your other testing branch ebuilds, but since i don't do php and because i do not support other people's testing branch ebuilds, i cannot adequately address your problem. tell me this -- if you remove the testing branch packages that you've added to package.keywords from package.keywords, does the problem go away?

regardless of whether your problem is caused by your package.keywords entries, your problem seems to be a simple dependency issue. why not just do what portage is asking you to do and unmask the package? or check bugzilla for bug reports related to the ebuild? or contact the ebuild developer?

portage is telling you very clearly that developer jeremy huddleston (aka "eradicator") has hard-masked the package that you cannot presently emerge in order to prevent you from emerging it. if that package is hard-masked, the developer masked it for a reason -- its seriously broken.

a broken package that is hard-masked by the developers is not a Jackass! issue. unmasking a hard-masked package is something that you have to do at your own risk. Gentoo doesn't support hard-masked packages and neither do i.

just in case you haven't done this before, there's information on how to unmask a hard-masked package in the Gentoo Installation Handbook. the procedure is more complicated than it might seem at first, as the syntax is subtly different from the syntax that is used in package.keywords.

if i were in your shoes i think that i would talk to eradicator about his hard-mask that he imposed on your package.

carpman · Post by **carpman** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:38 pm

Hello Bob never said it was jackass problem but i am using jackass and can find no other post relating to this problem it stands to reason it may be, i know you showed it is not depenency of gcc but it keeps telling me it is!

I have tried commenting out all php stuff in package.keyword/use but still get error?

Surley if it was related to php5 then i would have got it when first emerging php, which i did not.

I could email the maintainer of the ebuild but when i say i am using jackass i may well be told that unofficial install are not support so i end going around in circles.

I don't want to clog up thread if not a jackass issue but just trying to eleminate possibilities.

I think the problem is deeper then just a dependancy issue, i umasked the eselect-compiler and tried again but now get:

Code: Select all

 emerge -uDp world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.1" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- sys-devel/gcc-config-2.0.0_beta2 (masked by: package.mask, package.mask)
# Jeremy Huddleston <eradicator@gentoo.org> (24 Sep 2005)
# Still in development

- sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.12-r4 (masked by: package.mask)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!    (dependency required by "sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6" [ebuild])


!!! Problem with ebuild app-forensics/chkrootkit-0.45
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.

eselect-compiler is not longer mentioned so something else is a miss, i will not bother you anymore as problems seems to be misconfig somewhere somehow.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:35 pm

you shouldn't run into any support problems because what you have is a portage configuration issue, not a toolkit issue.

according to your error, you've got gcc-config masked. post the contents of all of the files in your /etc/portage directory.

Jackass! 2005.2 Support Group

Enough is enough.

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Jackass 2005.1 install, what all do i need?

Re: Jackass 2005.1 install, what all do i need?